Is Elon Musk the forerunner for the Antichrist?

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Do you think Elon Musk is the forerunner for the Antichrist?

  • yes

    Votes: 3 9.4%
  • no

    Votes: 24 75.0%
  • I don't believe a counterfeit Christ will also have a counterfeit John the Baptist

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I don't know, maybe

    Votes: 5 15.6%

  • Total voters
    32

ZNP

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That sort gives him, supervilian status.
Supervillains need a lair, what would be more appropriate for the Antichrist and all the other blood suckers of Satan's kingdom of darkness?
 

gb9

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Supervillains need a lair, what would be more appropriate for the Antichrist and all the other blood suckers of Satan's kingdom of darkness?
does dracula's castle not count as a lair??

king charles does not live there, but he does go there..
 

ZNP

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does dracula's castle not count as a lair??

king charles does not live there, but he does go there..
Yep, the foxes have holes, and the Antichrist has Count Dracula's castle.
 

kinda

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Maybe we really are in the end times?!?! I don't know for sure, but if there ever was a time, when all things are lining up, it is now.

The Great Reset is suppose to happen in 2030. The technology is there for controlling buying and selling by digital methods. When the Canadians protested against mandatory vaccinations, they turned off their bank accounts, beat them, and arrested them. Canada is ruled by the British Crown.

 

ZNP

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hd also bought " dracula's castle". in transylvania. no joke.
Dracula was getting Social Security but now that DOGE is going to cut that off he was forced to sell the castle. Couldn't afford the upkeep.
 

gb9

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looks like he will just have to take his coffin and find a new home. or just turn into a bat and find a cave..
 

kinda

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they just outright say it, not even trying to deny things anymore.
I think it's pretty much to late in the game, to think, it's even possible for some kind of uprising. Covid19 demonstrated to the world, that they could shut it down, and not get much resistance. There was a little bit, which was probably controlled opposition, and they showed, how they could handle any uprising.

At this point, it seems walk by faith, and not by sight.
 

ZNP

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He bought Twitter for the express purpose of giving racists nd conspiracy cuckoo's a platform
That's why he lost like half his ad revenue
Wow, hat tip to Dude I have found the random cuckoos he is talking about


Hysterical moment anti-Trump protesters are exposed for not knowing what they are protesting about
 

kinda

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Wow, hat tip to Dude I have found the random cuckoos he is talking about


Hysterical moment anti-Trump protesters are exposed for not knowing what they are protesting about

Demo means a demonstration/protesting against something.
Crat means a member or supporter of a particular form of government.

Democrat means someone who protests against a form of government. That's it. If that's their platform, than don't be surprised, what they do. They have to protest, or their not Democrats.

A while back at work, I had someone tell me, that Elon Musk did the Nazi salute. I told her (the blue haired lady), that I didn't know about it. She said, "that's really convenient". So, I did a Google search on it, and Elon said, "My heart goes out to you", while touching his heart, and moving it towards Trump. After this, I came to the same conclusions as the video.

Another situation, I mentioned Trump Tower as a joke, another co-worker told me, "don't even mention his name". This was before he became president again.

To be fair, Trump left us with Covid lockdowns, and giving the green light to Operation Warp Speed, while Biden left us with high inflation, and war.

Elon Musk is the forefront of electric vehicles, which may make our air cleaner, but they had cars running on steam/water in the 1920's that had 200-300 miles per gallon. If I had to choose between steam, electric, or gasoline, it was be a steam engine vehicle. Just imagine how advanced the steam car would be now, with modern technology.



 

ZNP

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well, that is not a true prophecy...
The Pope's funeral is Saturday, so I will be able to test my theory comparing the Pope's funeral to the great sacrifice to Dagon called by God in 1 Kings 18.

Luke 16:19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: 20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, 21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. 27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: 28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

I am wondering if the death of the Pope refers to this rich man dying. This involves a rather involved look at Judges, Kings, Luke, John, Genesis as well as the Catholic church and the Franciscan order with their commitment to poverty, charity and service to others and the Jesuit order.

In Judges Samson pushes out the pillars during a great sacrifice to Dagon. I believe that this is a picture of the rapture. All the stones resting on these two pillars are cast down, just as Jesus said would happen while the two pillars represent the church (Paul told us the church is the pillars) being taken out of the way by the strong man, Samson signifying Jesus. The priests of Dagon wear the same hat that the Pope wears. So we have connection between the Pope and the rapture in this story. There are many "great sacrifices" to Dagon like Easter and Christmas.

However, if we go to 1 Kings 18 when Elijah calls down fire this also signifies one aspect of the rapture. All of Israel is troubled by false prophets of Baal and those that sit at the table of Jezebel. There are 850 of these prophets at this event all trying to call down fire on their sacrifice while Elijah, the one true prophet, signifying the pure word during the church age, is standing against them. Elijah asks them "how long they would be caught between two opinions". It is the rapture that exposes all the false prophets while also revealing who was telling the truth. This event is similar to the story with Samson because it also is a great sacrifice, and in both stories the false prophets are killed after the rapture. However, this cannot be a holy day for Dagon because of two reasons. First, God called the assembly. And second, you would not get all of the false prophets around the world gathering in one place on Easter or Christmas because they have to do their own celebrations in their Cathedrals and temples. However, we refer to someone dying as "God calling them home". So everyone would gather at the funeral of the Pope and that would be considered a "great sacrifice to Dagon" which God called, and you would get all the religious leaders from the entire globe gathering there. So then this narrows down the possible event to the funeral of a Pope which traditionally is held four days after he dies. Hence he is in the grave for four days, which also aligns with the story of Lazarus.

In Luke it says that Lazarus was "laid at his gate". In Jerusalem there is a gate called the Damascus gate. This is important because Lazarus is the Greek form of Eleazar which was Abraham's servant who went and got Rebekah and brought her to Isaac, sight unseen. This is a picture of the church being raptured. Isaac is not allowed to return to the land yet because they had been seeking to kill Abraham there. Instead he meets Eleazar and Rebekah halfway just as the Lord will meet the raptured church in clouds. Eleazar was from Damascus. Also, at the Damascus gate there is a Catholic church of St. Stephen, the first martyr. So then Lazarus could refer to all the martyrs of the church age, 11 of whom were Franciscan monks killed in Damascus. Meanwhile Pope Francis is a Jesuit. Together we get 12, 11 are Franciscans and one is a Jesuit. This is similar to the disciples, 11 were Galileans and 1 was from Judah (Judas).

What is also interesting about the account in Luke is that this rich man asks that one returns from the dead to warn his brothers but we don't see Lazarus rise from the dead in Luke. And yet, we might actually see that. Enoch, the seventh from Adam, is a type of the church. He lived for 365 years and "was not". He walked with God, the implication being he walked with God every day and then poof, he was taken. That is a picture of the rapture. In Luke it concludes that they were continually in the temple blessing God. And then it ends as though, like Enoch, poof they are gone. The word blessing is very interesting, it is more general that worship, or teaching, or preaching, or evangelizing, or ministering. It is all inclusive for all the ways in which we can serve the Lord. Also, the rapture will be a warning to all those who are left on earth to not go to hell but to repent and receive Jesus.

Also in Luke we learn the rich man is dressed in purple, just like the Pope, and just like the Pope which has a Catholic church at the Damascus gate, Lazarus is laid at the rich man's gate.

Finally, in John we see the event that causes the whole world to praise the Lord on Palm Sunday. It was the raising of Lazarus from the grave. In the same way we will see a triumphant entry of the Lord after the rapture. In Joel we learn that the latter rain, referring to the revival that takes place after the rapture takes place in the first month. The rapture paves the way for the Lord to have a triumphant entry into Jerusalem just as raising Lazarus paved the way at the start of the church age.

Obviously we do have an issue with the calendar but I can address that later. The Bible is very clear that Satan has tried to change the times and seasons. However, the one thing that remains true is seedtime and harvest. If we look at the harvest and when Israel could reasonably celebrate the feasts of firstfruit for both Barley and Wheat it is very clear that the calendar is off by at least a month.
 

ZNP

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The Pope's funeral is Saturday, so I will be able to test my theory comparing the Pope's funeral to the great sacrifice to Dagon called by God in 1 Kings 18.

Luke 16:19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: 20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, 21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. 27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: 28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

I am wondering if the death of the Pope refers to this rich man dying. This involves a rather involved look at Judges, Kings, Luke, John, Genesis as well as the Catholic church and the Franciscan order with their commitment to poverty, charity and service to others and the Jesuit order.

In Judges Samson pushes out the pillars during a great sacrifice to Dagon. I believe that this is a picture of the rapture. All the stones resting on these two pillars are cast down, just as Jesus said would happen while the two pillars represent the church (Paul told us the church is the pillars) being taken out of the way by the strong man, Samson signifying Jesus. The priests of Dagon wear the same hat that the Pope wears. So we have connection between the Pope and the rapture in this story. There are many "great sacrifices" to Dagon like Easter and Christmas.

However, if we go to 1 Kings 18 when Elijah calls down fire this also signifies one aspect of the rapture. All of Israel is troubled by false prophets of Baal and those that sit at the table of Jezebel. There are 850 of these prophets at this event all trying to call down fire on their sacrifice while Elijah, the one true prophet, signifying the pure word during the church age, is standing against them. Elijah asks them "how long they would be caught between two opinions". It is the rapture that exposes all the false prophets while also revealing who was telling the truth. This event is similar to the story with Samson because it also is a great sacrifice, and in both stories the false prophets are killed after the rapture. However, this cannot be a holy day for Dagon because of two reasons. First, God called the assembly. And second, you would not get all of the false prophets around the world gathering in one place on Easter or Christmas because they have to do their own celebrations in their Cathedrals and temples. However, we refer to someone dying as "God calling them home". So everyone would gather at the funeral of the Pope and that would be considered a "great sacrifice to Dagon" which God called, and you would get all the religious leaders from the entire globe gathering there. So then this narrows down the possible event to the funeral of a Pope which traditionally is held four days after he dies. Hence he is in the grave for four days, which also aligns with the story of Lazarus.

In Luke it says that Lazarus was "laid at his gate". In Jerusalem there is a gate called the Damascus gate. This is important because Lazarus is the Greek form of Eleazar which was Abraham's servant who went and got Rebekah and brought her to Isaac, sight unseen. This is a picture of the church being raptured. Isaac is not allowed to return to the land yet because they had been seeking to kill Abraham there. Instead he meets Eleazar and Rebekah halfway just as the Lord will meet the raptured church in clouds. Eleazar was from Damascus. Also, at the Damascus gate there is a Catholic church of St. Stephen, the first martyr. So then Lazarus could refer to all the martyrs of the church age, 11 of whom were Franciscan monks killed in Damascus. Meanwhile Pope Francis is a Jesuit. Together we get 12, 11 are Franciscans and one is a Jesuit. This is similar to the disciples, 11 were Galileans and 1 was from Judah (Judas).

What is also interesting about the account in Luke is that this rich man asks that one returns from the dead to warn his brothers but we don't see Lazarus rise from the dead in Luke. And yet, we might actually see that. Enoch, the seventh from Adam, is a type of the church. He lived for 365 years and "was not". He walked with God, the implication being he walked with God every day and then poof, he was taken. That is a picture of the rapture. In Luke it concludes that they were continually in the temple blessing God. And then it ends as though, like Enoch, poof they are gone. The word blessing is very interesting, it is more general that worship, or teaching, or preaching, or evangelizing, or ministering. It is all inclusive for all the ways in which we can serve the Lord. Also, the rapture will be a warning to all those who are left on earth to not go to hell but to repent and receive Jesus.

Also in Luke we learn the rich man is dressed in purple, just like the Pope, and just like the Pope which has a Catholic church at the Damascus gate, Lazarus is laid at the rich man's gate.

Finally, in John we see the event that causes the whole world to praise the Lord on Palm Sunday. It was the raising of Lazarus from the grave. In the same way we will see a triumphant entry of the Lord after the rapture. In Joel we learn that the latter rain, referring to the revival that takes place after the rapture takes place in the first month. The rapture paves the way for the Lord to have a triumphant entry into Jerusalem just as raising Lazarus paved the way at the start of the church age.

Obviously we do have an issue with the calendar but I can address that later. The Bible is very clear that Satan has tried to change the times and seasons. However, the one thing that remains true is seedtime and harvest. If we look at the harvest and when Israel could reasonably celebrate the feasts of firstfruit for both Barley and Wheat it is very clear that the calendar is off by at least a month.
Here is part of the Papal oath that Francis swore:

I swear to God Almighty and the Savior Jesus Christ that I will keep whatever has been revealed through Christ and His Successors and whatever the first councils and my predecessors have defined and declared.

He swore to Jesus Christ and so Jesus Christ using his death to keep that which was revealed through Christ and the first councils that were defined and declared by the church fathers is righteous.

I will keep without sacrifice to itself the discipline and the rite of the Church. I will put outside the Church whoever dares to go against this oath, may it be somebody else or I.

This is what happens on that sacrifice when Elijah calls down fire. The 850 false prophets are put outside the church.

If I should undertake to act in anything of contrary sense, or should permit that it will be executed, Thou willst not be merciful to me on the dreadful Day of Divine Justice.

Accordingly, without exclusion, We subject to severest excommunication anyone — be it Ourselves or be it another — who would dare to undertake anything new in contradiction to this constituted evangelic Tradition and the purity of the orthodox Faith and the Christian religion, or would seek to change anything by his opposing efforts, or would agree with those who undertake such a blasphemous venture.”

From the get go he understood what would happen to those who went contrary to the faith once for all delivered by the apostles. This is what happens to those who did this when Elijah calls down fire.
 

ZNP

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How can the Feast of First Fruits be before you have any first fruits?

When is Nisan 1

1. I am not going to trust the Jewish religious leaders to tell me this. They rejected Jesus as the redeemer, that by definition means they are false prophets. Also we are told in the OT that God has divorced them.

2. We are also told that Satan tries to change times and seasons. So Gregorian calendar, Julian Calendar, and Hebrew calendars that were modified based on Gentile calendars are also off.

3. However, we are told that we can trust seedtime and harvest.

Genesis 8:22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

It bothers me that they claim the "feast of firstfruits" is a few weeks after the equinox in Israel. Swaziland, has their feast of firstfruits during the Summer solstice. They are in the Southern hemisphere at 26.5 degrees South, so their summer solstice is the time of our winter solstice (December 21), but the latitude is similar to Jerusalem which is 31 degrees N. Here is what bothers me, you wouldn't have a feast in the middle of the harvest season for an agricultural community. That would make no sense at all. No, what you would do is have the feast as soon as the harvest is over. The Barley harvest right now goes from April into early May. So the one thing about the calendar that I feel is crystal clear is that the majority of people are wrong if not all of them since we have about five different calendars (Hebrew, Gregorian, Julian, Essene and Enoch). That is obvious since there are so many different calendars. However, in the Bible we are told the one thing that will remain constant is seedtime and harvest. If you were going to celebrate the firstfruits of Barley so that God could bless the harvest it seems to me you would do it as soon as the harvest is in. The concept is similar to tithing. You don't tithe the paycheck you haven't received, you tithe the one you have received. Think of Israel returning to the good land on May 14, 1948. Why isn't that date the first of Nisan?

Now the months are off. I know they try and tie it to the stars in the heaven, but there is a 30,000 year cycle. It doesn't change much in a year or two, but four thousand years later you have moved one or two constellations. So that is not a reliable measure.

Winter wheat is harvested in Israel in July and August, so why would you have a "first fruits" feast for wheat in June? That makes no sense. If we focus on seedtime and harvest, then the first feast of first fruits for Barley would be in May, which would also explain why Israel became a nation again May 14, 1948. If May 14, 1948 was Nisan 1, then the first Feast of Firstfruits would have been June 1 and then Shavuot would have been on August 1. Which also makes sense as the general harvest would have been in by that time with only gleanings left, therefore they would have some firstfruits to offer.

Here is another point, you could be 150 miles from Jerusalem, and you are a farmer, and you are required to go to Jerusalem for Passover and Shavuot. Even if you have a horse, that trip will take you three days to get there and three days to get back. So you will be gone for at least a week. You are required to bring the first fruits of your harvest with you on Shavuot. So how could it possibly be held in June if you don't harvest until July? Also, you wouldn't hold a one week feast in the middle of the harvest. If you have a month to harvest and then you have the feast that would make a lot more sense.

So then it seems to me that May 14, 1948 makes a whole lot more sense for Nisan 1 as that would work for both Barley and Wheat harvests to have a feast of firstfruits. It would also explain why Israel returned on that day. Why wouldn't the first day of the nation also be the first day of the year for them?

I get it that everyone will hate this, but seriously, how can you have the feast of first fruits before you have any first fruits?