If you are absolutely certain God is a trinity, explains these scriptures

[memberofthebride]

Romans 1
7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called [to be] saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Corinthians 1
3 Grace [be] unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and [from] the Lord Jesus Christ.

Galatians 1
3 Grace [be] to you and peace from God the Father, and [from] our Lord Jesus Christ,

All of the letters of Paul ignore this “ghost”, All, check the rest for yourself. A ghost is never included by Paul.

If – if what is God were three equals or even three God ‘Kinds’, why does Paul never include this ghost in his letters? Maybe the ghost has no grace or peace?

Then there is John, that Jesus loved, he also leaves out this “ghost” in the fellowship we have with our Father and His Son.

1 John 1
3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship [is] with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

Then there is Jesus Christ HIMSELF.

John 10
29 My Father, which gave [them] me, is greater than all; and no [man] is able to pluck [them] out of my Father's hand.

30 I and [my] Father are one.

This ghost is not in -- THE ONE

This is huge --- if there were a third why, how is it possible it is not in the ONE?

In the entire chapter of John 8, Christ’s speaks of the Father only, never is this ghost included or even mentioned.

Then there is Peter.

1 Peter 1

3 Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

If this ghost was a third, why is it never included? And remember Mary, “ she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.”

Matthew 1

18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

So, who impregnated Mary? The Father or this ghost?

Sorry I find nothing confirming this “ghost’ exist.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

So, who impregnated Mary? The Father or this ghost?

Sorry I find nothing confirming this “ghost’ exist.

I would be very careful of blaspheming the Holy Spirit if I were you. If you don't understand, pray for God to show you. But don't mock the Holy Spirit.

 

[memberofthebride]

I would be very careful of blaspheming the Holy Spirit if I were you. If you don't understand, pray for God to show you. But don't mock the Holy Spirit.

How have I blaspheme? I Have the Father's Holy Spirit in me NOW!

I just reject the doctrine of a trinity and supposedly something called a "Ghost"

You realize the word translated as ghost is "spirit" don't you?

Please address the question --- why do the Three ignore this "Ghost"?

 

[memberofthebride]

And, the Father's Holy Spirit came into me by "the laying on of hands" as taught by the Apostles.
the "laying on of hands" a one of the major doctrines of Jesus Christ.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

How have I blaspheme? I Have the Father's Holy Spirit in me NOW!

I just reject the doctrine of a trinity and supposedly something called a "Ghost"

Holy Spirit and Holy Ghost and one and the same. You are mocking the Holy Spirit, whether you understand that or not.

 

[memberofthebride]

Holy Spirit and Holy Ghost and one and the same. You are mocking the Holy Spirit, whether you understand that or not.

“During the Middle Ages, Christian translators created a way to make the English Bible ---- reflect -- their belief---

---that the Holy Ghost was not the Holy Spirit.---

These theologians -- coined the phrase--- "Holy Ghost" to designate the Third Person of the Trinity. In contrast, they used "Holy Spirit" to refer to the Spirit of God or Spirit of the LORD encountered by the Hebrews and Jews in the Old Testament.

Then, in the 16th century, Bible printers reinforced this distinction by introducing capital and small letters. In the OT they used "spirit" and "holy spirit." In the NT they printed "Spirit" and "Holy Ghost," but with subtle distinctions.

These translation and printing differences do not exist in the Bible itself, in either Hebrew or Greek.

They are invented theological biases – imported - into the (English) Bible.

They provided both verbal and visual validation for the already existing “conviction” --- that Christianity --- must be separated from its Hebraic/Jewish foundations.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

“During the Middle Ages, Christian translators created a way to make the English Bible ---- reflect -- their belief---

---that the Holy Ghost was not the Holy Spirit.---

These theologians -- coined the phrase--- "Holy Ghost" to designate the Third Person of the Trinity. In contrast, they used "Holy Spirit" to refer to the Spirit of God or Spirit of the LORD encountered by the Hebrews and Jews in the Old Testament.

Then, in the 16th century, Bible printers reinforced this distinction by introducing capital and small letters. In the OT they used "spirit" and "holy spirit." In the NT they printed "Spirit" and "Holy Ghost," but with subtle distinctions.

These translation and printing differences do not exist in the Bible itself, in either Hebrew or Greek.

They are invented theological biases – imported - into the (English) Bible.

They provided both verbal and visual validation for the already existing “conviction” --- that Christianity --- must be separated from its Hebraic/Jewish foundations.

Spirit, Ghost, same.

 

[memberofthebride]

God's Spirit is HOLY, but it is not a person or a third in the God head

God the Father and Jesus Christ ARE SPIRIT, there is ONE Spirit.

and you still have not given a reason why Christ, Peter and Paul ignore this ghost and do not include the spirit at part of a trinity.

the trinity comes from Rome where all the false doctrine are created.

 

[pitcare]

Hi,
I am not sure which name you have, but your thoughts are right. There is no trinity, and God and Jesus are not the same or equal in power.
God is the father, and Jesus is his son. Everyone who reads the Bible with an open heart in the Holy Spirit can see this truth.
Thank you for sharing.

Regards,
Stefan

 

[Suze]

Romans 1
7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called [to be] saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Corinthians 1
3 Grace [be] unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and [from] the Lord Jesus Christ.

Galatians 1
3 Grace [be] to you and peace from God the Father, and [from] our Lord Jesus Christ,

All of the letters of Paul ignore this “ghost”, All, check the rest for yourself. A ghost is never included by Paul.

If – if what is God were three equals or even three God ‘Kinds’, why does Paul never include this ghost in his letters? Maybe the ghost has no grace or peace?

Then there is John, that Jesus loved, he also leaves out this “ghost” in the fellowship we have with our Father and His Son.

1 John 1
3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship [is] with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

Then there is Jesus Christ HIMSELF.

John 10
29 My Father, which gave [them] me, is greater than all; and no [man] is able to pluck [them] out of my Father's hand.

30 I and [my] Father are one.

This ghost is not in -- THE ONE

This is huge --- if there were a third why, how is it possible it is not in the ONE?

In the entire chapter of John 8, Christ’s speaks of the Father only, never is this ghost included or even mentioned.

Then there is Peter.

1 Peter 1

3 Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

If this ghost was a third, why is it never included? And remember Mary,
Honestly ? I think it's probably best to leave this topic alone . It seems to b a very devisive and contentious subject . Both sides seem very convinced that they r correct and in my experience , most people r not inclined to change their minds on this . We r all reading the same Word , one reads it this way , another reads it differently , we could all argue this forever . That's not pleasurable or edifying for any of us . I'm not gonna do that no matter how convinced I am in my position , one way or the other . Take my advice , focus on the things we have in common and let's all try to help each other grow in the Truth and in our faith in it .

 

[memberofthebride]

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[Suze]

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For some weird reason , my reply is at the very end of your post

 

[SonJudgment]

Spirit and Ghost are interchangeable words. If you reject the trinity doctrine then you reject God, the full breadth of the scriptures (the Bible both OT and NT), and all the saints that ever lived. Rejection of the trinity doctrine is a guarantee of damnation. You should be wary of the heretical cults that reject the trinity doctrine, besides the obvious fact they are guaranteed to go to the hellfire for it, it's really often a tactic their cults use to try to sound smart or sound like some sort of unique occult knowledge to deceive the less learned into adhering to the cult or the cult leader. Understand just because you are merely a member of a cult and a victim of the cult doesn't mean you're innocent, you do actually have to leave the cult and surrender to God if you want to be saved. Being the member of the cult only means you will go to hellfire with the leaders who were more cunning than yourself while the true faithful rejoice at them being cast away and praise Jesus

 

[memberofthebride]

Spirit and Ghost are interchangeable words. If you reject the trinity doctrine then you reject God, the full breadth of the scriptures (the Bible both OT and NT), and all the saints that ever lived. Rejection of the trinity doctrine is a guarantee of damnation. You should be wary of the heretical cults that reject the trinity doctrine, besides the obvious fact they are guaranteed to go to the hellfire for it, it's really often a tactic their cults use to try to sound smart or sound like some sort of unique occult knowledge to deceive the less learned into adhering to the cult or the cult leader. Understand just because you are merely a member of a cult and a victim of the cult doesn't mean you're innocent, you do actually have to leave the cult and surrender to God if you want to be saved. Being the member of the cult only means you will go to hellfire with the leaders who were more cunning than yourself while the true faithful rejoice at them being cast away and praise Jesus

My comment

Well, your word is NOT truth, but the Old and the New Testament IS TRUTH and the Word of GOD!

and until you can produce scriptures stating what you have written I have no interest.

but please explain why the scriptures at the beginning of this blog, do not include this "ghost" what every that means or Even the Holy Spirit of MY Father.

I obey Jesus Christ, not just "believe", I do My Father's Will, not perfectly but will, after the first resurrection.

And I will never follow Rome where this trinity, ghost, going to heaven or hell and many other lies came from, which the 40,000 flavors of confusion love to follow.

5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

It is the "many" that are deceived -- not the few.
of the 40,000, most accept this trinity -- I run from the Many!

 

[memberofthebride]

Spirit, Ghost, same.

Yes according to the catholic church

 

[SonJudgment]

My comment

Well, your word is NOT truth, but the Old and the New Testament IS TRUTH and the Word of GOD!

and until you can produce scriptures stating what you have written I have no interest.

but please explain why the scriptures at the beginning of this blog, do not include this "ghost" what every that means or Even the Holy Spirit of MY Father.

I obey Jesus Christ, not just "believe", I do My Father's Will, not perfectly but will, after the first resurrection.

And I will never follow Rome where this trinity, ghost, going to heaven or hell and many other lies came from, which the 40,000 flavors of confusion love to follow.

5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

It is the "many" that are deceived -- not the few.
of the 40,000, most accept this trinity -- I run from the Many!

The word ghost and spirit are interchangeable as was already told to you. Essentially your argument is like saying that sky is not blue because someone calls it azure instead.

If you reject the trinity doctrine then you do not obey Jesus.

It is a common tactic of cults to try to excuse their damnation worthy heresy on a rejection of Rome, but the problem for them is the trinity doctrine doesn't come from Rome. This is a clear tactic the cult and their leaders will use to try to give themselves legitimacy and to seem important, or is if they had any knowledge to manipulate the lesser cult members. Both will be cast into the hellfire with a guarantee. Forsake your cult and embrace the true religion of Christianity if you want to be saved.

Acts 7:51-56

51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.

52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:

53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.

54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.

55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

 

[memberofthebride]

The word ghost and spirit are interchangeable as was already told to you. Essentially your argument is like saying that sky is not blue because someone calls it azure instead.

If you reject the trinity doctrine then you do not obey Jesus.

It is a common tactic of cults to try to excuse their damnation worthy heresy on a rejection of Rome, but the problem for them is the trinity doctrine doesn't come from Rome. This is a clear tactic the cult and their leaders will use to try to give themselves legitimacy and to seem important, or is if they had any knowledge to manipualte the lesser cult members. Both will be cast ito the hellfire with a guarantee. Forsake your cult and embrace the true religion of Christianity if you want to be saved.

Acts 7:51-56

51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.

52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:

53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.

54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.

55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

MY comment;

yes, I have studied those very scriptures for 60 years, am well aware of them--- BUT they do not address the question at hand. which is why you used them, as there are no scriptures you can use to prove the Trinity or any other false doctrines from Rome.

by the way verse 53 you quoted, do you understand what Steven was accusing them of?? Not obeying the Torah! which the 40,000 flavors hate, and refuse to obey

I will pass on a scripture you may not be aware of.

Matthew 23

1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,

2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: they ruled Israel by the Torah.

3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, [that] observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

Christ instructed His disciples to obey the Torah

 

[memberofthebride]

so far, not one has address the question, why is this ghost and the HOLY Spirit of the Father not included by Christ, Paul and John

 

[SonJudgment]

MY comment;

yes, I have studied those very scriptures for 60 years, am well aware of them--- BUT they do not address the question at hand. which is why you used them, as there are no scriptures you can use to prove the Trinity or any other false doctrines from Rome.

by the way verse 53 you quoted, do you understand what Steven was accusing them of?? Not obeying the Torah! which the 40,000 flavors hate, and refuse to obey

I will pass on a scripture you may not be aware of.

Matthew 23

1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,

2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: they ruled Israel by the Torah.

3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, [that] observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

Christ instructed His disciples to obey the Torah

The scripture I just posted for you, among others, proves the trinity doctrine. All three persons of the trinity doctrine are seen in the passage from Acts 7. So you have a choice to make, you can continue to resist the Holy Spirit and reject God and break the first commandment of the Law just like the Pharisees to keep your heresy and stay in your cult and be guaranteed to be commended to the eternal hellfire, or you can believe as Stephen believed in the three persons of the one God; the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost and abandon the cult and their heresy and be saved.

 

[memberofthebride]

The scripture I just posted for you, among others, proves the trinity doctrine. All three persons of the trinity doctrine are seen in the passage from Acts 7. So you have a choice to make, you can continue to resist the Holy Spirit and reject God and break the first commandment of the Law just like the Pharisees to keep your heresy and stay in your cult and be guaranteed to be commended to the eternal hellfire, or you can believe as Stephen believed in the three persons of the one God; the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost and abandon the cult and their heresy and be saved.

sorry I see the use of the Holy Spirit, the word ghost is the word Spirit, not ghost, where are there three?

and by the way in the Old Testament, which Stevens was speaking of there is no trinity or ghost, only the Spirit of God.

again why is the Ghost not included?? that is what I am looking for, for what logical reason is "it" excluded? why is it in the ONE?