If Jesus is all I need, then why I do I feel like I need to belong to a group of people?

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If Jesus is all I need, then why I do I feel like I need to belong to a group of people?
 
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He wants us to fellowship with like minded people.. I think the phrase Jesus is all we need is kind of misleading. Yes we need Him First. But the devil does his BEST work to people who fly solo ALL the time.. So we need like minded people. That's imperative.
 

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Jesus said when 2 or 3 gather in my name there I am in the midst

a group can be that small
not a group of one. lol

I think people say 'Jesus is all I need' in the spiritual sense not meaning you should be a loner. Recall God is a trinity of Father, Son and Holy Spirit so that's three right there.
 

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If Jesus is all I need, then why I do I feel like I need to belong to a group of people?

Good question. The plain, simple truth is that Jesus Christ founded on earth directly and personally an organized religious society which he called his Church. A society is a number of people who work together under the same authority using the same means towards the same objective.

Yes, Jesus founded His Church and promised to send the Holy Spirit to the Church and the Spirit would lead it to all truth. Jesus also promised the early members of His church that He would be with them until the end of time.

So, in summary, Jesus thought His Church was important.
 
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If Jesus is all I need, then why I do I feel like I need to belong to a group of people?
What holds me back from repetitive church attendance, or just general fellowship, is my shame. I feel like I'm not pure enough to be around other believers. This is a lie of the devil. There's some truth to it though, Paul told the church he established not to tolerate people that live in sin, but I think he meant people that don't see sin as sin, ones who practice it in willful ignorance. Not ones who slip up, knowing it's sin, and repent.

Once I get over my shame and open up to fellowship with other Christians, I find that they are often plagued by the same fears and lies that I am. We comfort and reassure each other in Christ's grace, forgiveness, and his love.

My youth pastor, who I'm friends with now that I'm an adult(24), is not perfect at all, he's fallen just like me, in some of the SAME ways but we repent and we are forgiven constantly. We reassure and encourage each other.

It's a beautiful thing, I pray you will have the courage to humble yourself before God and others and receive his blessings.
 
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Jesus said when 2 or 3 gather in my name there I am in the midst

a group can be that small
not a group of one. lol

I think people say 'Jesus is all I need' in the spiritual sense not meaning you should be a loner. Recall God is a trinity of Father, Son and Holy Spirit so that's three right there.
All I got is my parents. :( We shopped around for Churches but things just didn't work out. People weren't accepting.

Good question. The plain, simple truth is that Jesus Christ founded on earth directly and personally an organized religious society which he called his Church. A society is a number of people who work together under the same authority using the same means towards the same objective.

Yes, Jesus founded His Church and promised to send the Holy Spirit to the Church and the Spirit would lead it to all truth. Jesus also promised the early members of His church that He would be with them until the end of time.

So, in summary, Jesus thought His Church was important.
I'm having a hard time reading your unlined bold print.

Jesus often provides for our needs through other humans around us.
He hasn't provided for me. When I am in a bad emotional state, everyone disappears. So based on my experience I would say for some reason He hasn't provided what I need. :(

What holds me back from repetitive church attendance, or just general fellowship, is my shame. I feel like I'm not pure enough to be around other believers. This is a lie of the devil. There's some truth to it though, Paul told the church he established not to tolerate people that live in sin, but I think he meant people that don't see sin as sin, ones who practice it in willful ignorance. Not ones who slip up, knowing it's sin, and repent.

Once I get over my shame and open up to fellowship with other Christians, I find that they are often plagued by the same fears and lies that I am. We comfort and reassure each other in Christ's grace, forgiveness, and his love.

My youth pastor, who I'm friends with now that I'm an adult(24), is not perfect at all, he's fallen just like me, in some of the SAME ways but we repent and we are forgiven constantly. We reassure and encourage each other.

It's a beautiful thing, I pray you will have the courage to humble yourself before God and others and receive his blessings.
Your lucky to have fellowship like that!

He wants us to fellowship with like minded people.. I think the phrase Jesus is all we need is kind of misleading. Yes we need Him First. But the devil does his BEST work to people who fly solo ALL the time.. So we need like minded people. That's imperative.
I AGREE! i'M STILL SEARCHING FOR THIS!
 

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If Jesus is all I need, then why I do I feel like I need to belong to a group of people?
Jesus is all you need as far as salvation is concerned, but he never ordained that we should make it alone in this world.

Christians are the body of Christ, and Jesus Christ is the head of the body.

A body has many different members, and they're all reliant upon each other in order for the body to be healthy.

So, too, is the church.

We read:

I Corinthians chapter 12

[12] For as the body is one, and has many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
[13] For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
[14] For the body is not one member, but many.
[15] If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
[16] And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
[17] If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?
[18] But now has God set the members every one of them in the body, as it has pleased him.
[19] And if they were all one member, where were the body?
[20] But now are they many members, yet but one body.
[21] And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of you: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.
[22] Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary:
[23] And those members of the body, which we think to be less honorable, upon these we bestow more abundant honor; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness.
[24] For our comely parts have no need: but God has tempered the body together, having given more abundant honor to that part which lacked:
[25] That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.
[26] And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honored, all the members rejoice with it.
[27] Now you are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

What do you call a body with missing or non-functioning parts?

You call it such things as crippled, paralyzed, disabled, and dysfunctional.

What you're feeling is "normal" in the sense that you're lacking the necessary fellowship of other believers.

If it's any consolation to you at all (I doubt that it is), then I've been missing the same myself for basically my entire life.

Anyhow, this is the way that God desires it should be:

Ephesians chapter 4

[15] But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
[16] From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplies, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, makes increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.
 
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If I'm being genuine... I look at YouTube preachers most of the time.. Stephen Darby and derrick prince is my favorite right now. I'm looking for a church home.. but much like what was mentioned in other post.. I've had shame too and when I realize I should get over that... Since Jesus wants us to come as we are..and no one else is better or more pure then you either. Or if they are better off now? They were just as bad as you or worst in their past.So realizing that.. I've just been looking but... U don't wanna go some place with alot of issues. Thing is.. No church will be perfect. We just gotta pray we can find one that preaches truth.
 
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Jesus is all you need as far as salvation is concerned, but he never ordained that we should make it alone in this world.

Christians are the body of Christ, and Jesus Christ is the head of the body.

A body has many different members, and they're all reliant upon each other in order for the body to be healthy.

So, too, is the church.

We read:

I Corinthians chapter 12

[12] For as the body is one, and has many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
[13] For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
[14] For the body is not one member, but many.
[15] If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
[16] And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
[17] If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?
[18] But now has God set the members every one of them in the body, as it has pleased him.
[19] And if they were all one member, where were the body?
[20] But now are they many members, yet but one body.
[21] And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of you: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.
[22] Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary:
[23] And those members of the body, which we think to be less honorable, upon these we bestow more abundant honor; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness.
[24] For our comely parts have no need: but God has tempered the body together, having given more abundant honor to that part which lacked:
[25] That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.
[26] And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honored, all the members rejoice with it.
[27] Now you are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

What do you call a body with missing or non-functioning parts?

You call it such things as crippled, paralyzed, disabled, and dysfunctional.

What you're feeling is "normal" in the sense that you're lacking the necessary fellowship of other believers.

If it's any consolation to you at all (I doubt that it is), then I've been missing the same myself for basically my entire life.

Anyhow, this is the way that God desires it should be:

Ephesians chapter 4

[15] But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
[16] From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplies, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, makes increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.
Based on my experience. It feels like the Christian Church, in America has either turned to garbage, or Me and my Family are all garbage. I say it this way because, if WE are truly in Christ, and some of those that go to Church are also truly in Christ, then WE should be accepted. But it feels like to me, that something is wrong.... It feels like there is some kind of social status thing going on.

I am a Janitor, and it seems to me that the reason why the teachers at the school feel like they can treat me the way they do, is because they are the reason why I have a job. I think that same attitude, example, is being carried over into the Church too.
 
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I think even at the School, this might be the wrong attitude to have. Because it doesn't seem to be the way the bible tells us to act. These Teachers, just about all of them, are Church attenders.
 

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Based on my experience. It feels like the Christian Church, in America has either turned to garbage, or Me and my Family are all garbage. I say it this way because, if WE are truly in Christ, and some of those that go to Church are also truly in Christ, then WE should be accepted. But it feels like to me, that something is wrong.... It feels like there is some kind of social status thing going on.

I am a Janitor, and it seems to me that the reason why the teachers at the school feel like they can treat me the way they do, is because they are the reason why I have a job. I think that same attitude, example, is being carried over into the Church too.
Personally, I agree with you.

The place on this earth where I've always been the least accepted is the "church", and, quite frankly, I've learned to take it as a compliment because every "church" I've ever stepped into in my life was so far removed from Biblical truth that I might as well have just gone to the church of Satan.
 

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I think even at the School, this might be the wrong attitude to have. Because it doesn't seem to be the way the bible tells us to act. These Teachers, just about all of them, are Church attenders.
Many churches are breeding grounds for false converts.
 
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Based on my experience. It feels like the Christian Church, in America has either turned to garbage, or Me and my Family are all garbage. I say it this way because, if WE are truly in Christ, and some of those that go to Church are also truly in Christ, then WE should be accepted. But it feels like to me, that something is wrong.... It feels like there is some kind of social status thing going on.

I am a Janitor, and it seems to me that the reason why the teachers at the school feel like they can treat me the way they do, is because they are the reason why I have a job. I think that same attitude, example, is being carried over into the Church too.
Unfortunately your right it's a social status thing going on in alot.. not all but alot of churches... It's not Christlike at all. Your not alone. Remember this man... Jesus came to serve... And he was treated like the lowest of lowest people... Even though he is ALMIGHTY. . So it's not weird that people look down on others when they shouldn't. It AINT right bruh.. but they need to seek a true relationship with Jesus just like we all should. If they arnt following the fruits of the spirit.. then maybe that's why something feels off. Peace love patience long suffering... I don't wanna mis quote
 

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I think even at the School, this might be the wrong attitude to have. Because it doesn't seem to be the way the bible tells us to act. These Teachers, just about all of them, are Church attenders.
sorry can you explain why the teachers or the churches they go to dont accept you?

thats weird

it shouldnt matter what kind of job you do or even if you are unemployed.

I mean in terms of who you are in Christ.

I agree some churches just dont like it like if theres one person whos already mowing the lawns and they are paying them they dont want someone else who does it for free, stuff like that goes down meh

or say theres a pastor and then another pastor type wants to join but the first pastor gets jealous of the second. ugh
 
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Based on my observation. Part of the problem is, there is too many of them on the same level. I think they are being hurtful to people like me without even realizing they are being hurtful.
 
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sorry can you explain why the teachers or the churches they go to dont accept you?

thats weird

it shouldnt matter what kind of job you do or even if you are unemployed.

I mean in terms of who you are in Christ.

I agree some churches just dont like it like if theres one person whos already mowing the lawns and they are paying them they dont want someone else who does it for free, stuff like that goes down meh

or say theres a pastor and then another pastor type wants to join but the first pastor gets jealous of the second. ugh
It's alot of hypocrites in the world. I know what he means. Or people who claim to be christians but they clique up and get critical of others. I see it all the time. I pray I stay away from that mindset as well.
 
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sorry can you explain why the teachers or the churches they go to dont accept you?

thats weird

it shouldnt matter what kind of job you do or even if you are unemployed.

I mean in terms of who you are in Christ.

I agree some churches just dont like it like if theres one person whos already mowing the lawns and they are paying them they dont want someone else who does it for free, stuff like that goes down meh

or say theres a pastor and then another pastor type wants to join but the first pastor gets jealous of the second. ugh
That's a hard question to answer, because I haven't figured it out. If you ever wonder why I am still having weird feelings about that one teacher that I have spoke of before. It's because she was accepting, and now all of a sudden she isn't anymore. Stuff like that just boggles my mind... It's like, what changed and why???? Lack of communication, and maybe even lack of honesty.

I think the excuse that these teachers make is, "I am a day time person and you are a second shift person" and "I am too busy".
 
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It's alot of hypocrites in the world. I know what he means. Or people who claim to be christians but they clique up and get critical of others. I see it all the time. I pray I stay away from that mindset as well.
I've been praying that God would talk to some of their hearts for me, because whenever I think about this, for some reason, part of this passage of scripture pops into my head.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25:31-46&version=NIV
 

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He hasn't provided for me. When I am in a bad emotional state, everyone disappears. So based on my experience I would say for some reason He hasn't provided what I need.
I had a tough emotional experience as a teen. And when I reached out to all my friends none were available. And at first I was obviously frustrated. But by the end of the night I came to realize it wasn't by chance. God had done it on purpose to teach me a lesson. To trust more in Him and less on others.
Turned out to be an easy night for me in the end. And the weeks following.