If a Sabbath is forced, Will you keep Sunday holy?

[eternally-gratefull]

she was created for adam, not for the fun of it. Even God said that its not good for man to be alone.

Yes, I was going to say this too. Thank you

 

[eternally-gratefull]

exactly, so i don't know why it is that others don't agree with that.

Who does not agree with this?

 

[UCA4J]

i Will ask him that when I meet him

Ha ha ha

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Your contradicting yourself you can't group mans law and gods commandments together 1 John 2:3-4 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But I guess the commandments are a curse according to you.

It’s not the commandments that are the curse, they are perfect

its our failure to keep the just requirement of the law that curses us

as moses and Paul said, cursed is the one who does not confirm and obey every word (literally every jot and tittle)

 

[UCA4J]

Adam is showing his spiritual death at this time, as a spiritually dead person his focus is on self not Eve or God

What was Adam, about two weeks old ?

 

[UCA4J]

Who does not agree with this?

What number is that original post ?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Yo still haven't Proven your view correct im talking about ceremonial laws which were foreshadowing the coming of Christ which we are no longer under and mans ordinances not gods commandments don't confuse the two. So what laws do you think were nailed to cross surely not Gods commandments their written in your heart Rom. 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the spirit.

The law that was nailed to the cross was the ones that condemned us (Col 2)

Col 2: 14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

these handwriting of requirements were the commands written by God himself in which Moses said, cursed is the one who does not confirm and obey every word of this law.

the ceremonial laws did not bring us under a curse.

the sacrificial law did not being us under a curse

the ministration of death did

2 cor 3. 7 But if the ministry of death, written andengraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away, 8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious? 9 For if the ministry of condemnation had glory, the ministry of righteousness exceeds much more in glory. 10 For even what was made glorious had no glory in this respect, because of the glory that excels. 11 For if what is passing away was glorious, what remains ismuch more glorious.

the ministry of death her are the stone tablets given to Moses, when Moses came down from the mountain, his face shown with glory that they could not look at him, but as the glory was passing away, yet was glorious, the ministry of death, which in itself was glorious, also was passing away, as something much more glorious took its place, here called the ministry of righteousness.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You are free from sin and death not gods commandments don't confuse the two 1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

God has many commands. And keeping them is not work

it we do not keep them by trying to obey them, we keep them by following the law of love. Not the law of moses

 

[eternally-gratefull]

what you seek to dismiss by calling 'ceremonial laws' the Bible calls part of "THE LAW" -- and they aren't "man's ordinances" as you call them but the very things the LORD God Almighty commanded Israel. do not blaspheme.

need an example?

And they tied unto it a lace of blue silk to fasten it on high upon the mitre, as the LORD had commanded Moses.​

Thus was all the work of the Tabernacle, even of the Tabernacle of the Congregation finished: and the children of Israel did according to all that the LORD had commanded Moses: so did they.​

(Exodus 39:31-32, 1599 GNV)​

Amen the law is me thing, and it includes all part, we do not cut it up and say this is done the rest we still have to follow it is all or none

 

[SophieT]

I WAS objecting to others I have read who have used "it is finished" in ways I didn't think Christ meant, I know you didn't. I got carried away with the idea of speaking to a much wider audience than to you. Sorry.

OK. Thanks

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You can't twist my words Col. 2:14 blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us are not gods commandments fulfilled in us which you called a curse don't preach heresies.

yes actually they are,

unless you keep every word, you are cursed, the curse of the law

no one, I mean no one (other than Christ) has fulfilled this part of the law. For all have sinned and fall short

what is the standard? The commands.. as james said, if you keep the whole law yet stumble in one point, your guilty of all the law.

he did not say willfully disobey in one away, he did not say purposely disobey, he said if we just stumble in one point, we are guilty

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I would caution you, new member. You are welcome to disagree respectfully, but asserting that a long-standing member of this community is preaching "heresies" is out of line.

It’s funny, one person appears to get banned, and immediately another one comes guns a blazing in law threads.. hmmm

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Gods ceremonial laws of sacrifice are fulfilled by Christ because he was the final offering for sin so we no longer need to make sacrifices for sin we can just call on the lord in the spirit and be forgiven I hope you see the truth in this.

Yes this is true

but the blood of bulls and goats never took away sin (hebrews)

no one was ever saved because a priest went into the holy of holys and gave the atoning sacrifice

no one was ever saved because the scapegoat was set free

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Psalms 1:2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. 3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. Jesus says if you love me keep my commandments.

Yes

but how do we keep his commands? What does it look like?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

What was Adam, about two weeks old ?

He could have been a few hundred years old by then, we do not know how long they were in the garden

 

[eternally-gratefull]

What number is that original post ?

Post 828

if you hit the up arrow (blue) next to a users name, it takes you back to that post, then you can up arrow in that post to take you back, until you find the origional. Just FYI, a great tool

 

[posthuman]

I would caution you, new member. You are welcome to disagree respectfully, but asserting that a long-standing member of this community is preaching "heresies" is out of line.

If I'm saying heretical things I sure want to be told about it - I'll want it explained to me to.
I was probably too blunt. But tha k you

 

[posthuman]

I guess I have to live under no instruction but love thanks for clarifying.

All the scripture is for our instruction. It's not useless to us just because we weren't put under the letters of the law; all of it is given to us to teach us about who God is, and His Christ

 

[Ultimateprepper]

The law that was nailed to the cross was the ones that condemned us (Col 2)

Col 2: 14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

these handwriting of requirements were the commands written by God himself in which Moses said, cursed is the one who does not confirm and obey every word of this law.

the ceremonial laws did not bring us under a curse.

the sacrificial law did not being us under a curse

the ministration of death did

2 cor 3. 7 But if the ministry of death, written andengraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away, 8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious? 9 For if the ministry of condemnation had glory, the ministry of righteousness exceeds much more in glory. 10 For even what was made glorious had no glory in this respect, because of the glory that excels. 11 For if what is passing away was glorious, what remains ismuch more glorious.

the ministry of death her are the stone tablets given to Moses, when Moses came down from the mountain, his face shown with glory that they could not look at him, but as the glory was passing away, yet was glorious, the ministry of death, which in itself was glorious, also was passing away, as something much more glorious took its place, here called the ministry of righteousness.

The law that was nailed to the cross was the ones that condemned us (Col 2)

Col 2: 14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

these handwriting of requirements were the commands written by God himself in which Moses said, cursed is the one who does not confirm and obey every word of this law.

the ceremonial laws did not bring us under a curse.

the sacrificial law did not being us under a curse

the ministration of death did

2 cor 3. 7 But if the ministry of death, written andengraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away, 8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious? 9 For if the ministry of condemnation had glory, the ministry of righteousness exceeds much more in glory. 10 For even what was made glorious had no glory in this respect, because of the glory that excels. 11 For if what is passing away was glorious, what remains ismuch more glorious.

the ministry of death her are the stone tablets given to Moses, when Moses came down from the mountain, his face shown with glory that they could not look at him, but as the glory was passing away, yet was glorious, the ministry of death, which in itself was glorious, also was passing away, as something much more glorious took its place, here called the ministry of righteousness.

they were under condemnation of sin where the law was weak through the flesh but Christ sacrifice freed them and the righteousness of the law was fulfilled in them who walk after the spirit.

 

[posthuman]

Rom. 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. 31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. That's gods words not mine.

Yes

Note the 'without the deeds of the law' part. That means the law isn't required if us; Christ satisfied it, completely. As it is written in the psalms, His people are a free-will offering to Him in the day of His power and beauty of His holiness. Freely we received, freely we give.

It's not because I fear punishment that I remember His rest. It's because I love Him, and that's because He first loved me.