Idea that all Sickness, Sins, Problems Caused by Specific Demons-- Worldview

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NotMakingThisUp said:
Consider: The ‘any kind of problem has a spirit or demon’ is the spirit or demon we become as sinners. The solution called ‘cast out or rebuke‘ refers to forgiveness. Self forgiveness. Getting our own devil out of ourselves.
We put them there in the first place. -Not making this up
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This is not the view of demonology presented in scripture.
 
presidente said:
Do you think that has always been the case, or that it changed at some point? If Israel were obedient, the LORD would put upon them none of the sicknesses that He put upon the Egyptians. Is there any reason to think that Satan had anything directly to do with the sicknesses the Lord put upon the Egyptians? God took credit for the plagues, which isn't to say that He couldn't use angels. One of the Herods was struck by the angel of the Lord. What about Jacob's injury to his thigh after his all-night wrestling match?
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Sure, God's hand is also behind some sickness, as Paul said to the Corinthians who abused the Lord's supper. However, the angel of death sent by God was of the devil, not God. God even uses Satan at times. There is one occasion at least where God used a lying spirit to get His (God's) will done.

There are many errors that plague (ho ho) the church. One is that there are no demons and sickness is all natural. Another is that the devil is responsible for everything directly.

It is true that if there was no devil, there would be no sin and no sickness. We will see this during the millennium when Satan is consigned to the bottomless pit.

We need discernment. Not long after I was saved, a woman I worked with got very ill. The pastor visited her in hospital. He was going to pray for her, but he held back. She told me he said, "I won't pray for you until you submit to your husband".

What we should not do is be passive. If we are sick, we need to find out why. It is God's will that we be well. Sometimes he allows illness as a form of discipline. Sometimes we bring it on ourselves. Sometimes its a straight out attack from the enemy of our souls.
 
NotMakingThisUp said:
Consider: The ‘any kind of problem has a spirit or demon’ is the spirit or demon we become as sinners. The solution called ‘cast out or rebuke‘ refers to forgiveness. Self forgiveness. Getting our own devil out of ourselves.
We put them there in the first place. -Not making this up
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Considered 53 years ago and rejected. Demons are real, Satan is God's adversary and there is a hierarchy of Satanic forces in the world system.

You did not get your philosophy from God's word, so yes, you are making it up.
 
Blain said:
This was very encouraging to read thank you so much I will do my best to trust God in this as I know that he has been with me even in this time.
I will pray for you and your health as I know how surgery can be especially having to do it over and over again.
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Thank you, made it, making it so far, if not, Okay, I get to go home, where all in blief to Good in risen Son are Spiritually for now, and will be when Death gets swallowed up in God's victory of Son for us each 1 Cor 15
I, simply cannot stop the new thought, God continues to give me, in this down work for us all to stand in, while in adversities
 
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