I got baptized today =D

[seeacts238]

acts;2 v 38

is the answer every one salvation!

 

[Cako53]

That does not say that water baptism is needed to get to heaven though. I agree that it is a good step to make in your Christian walk, and I hav ebeen baptized, but their is nothing that says it is needed in order to get to heaven.

 

[wattie]

I apologize for taking so long, but there was no point in me responding until I was positive about what I was going to say. I spent some more time studying, and I am going to try my best to put this into words. It would be really easy if you went into the chat so we could discuss it, but I will try my best on here.

First, lets start by putting the whole passage out:

John 3

Jesus Teaches Nicodemus

1Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a member of the Jewish ruling council. 2He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him."

3In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."
4"How can a man be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked. "Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!"
5Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. 6Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 7You should not be surprised at my saying, 'You must be born again.' 8The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."
9"How can this be?" Nicodemus asked.
10"You are Israel's teacher," said Jesus, "and do you not understand these things? 11I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. 12I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things? 13No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man. 14Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life. 16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. 19This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."

Okay, so we might as well start at verse 5 where this misconsemption is based from. If you take just verse 5 it would look very obvious that you must be babtized in water in order to get into The Kingdom of Heaven. But, if you continue to read further in verse 6, you can see that that is not so. See verse 6 says: "Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit." Now if you take this and compare it to 5 you see that being born of water Jesus is simply taking about being born in general. See, you are born again. Not born again again. For when you are born again, it is of the Spirit. You are not born of physical body again, the water represents physical body.

Looking further in the passage to verse 15, it simply says "that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life." Nothing about water babtism here. Simply believing in Christ.

John 3:5 is one of the only verses that has this misconsemption on water baptism being a necesity to geting into Heaven. These following verses clearly state what is needed to get into Heaven.

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him." John 3:16-17

"Jesus said to him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6

"Let it be known to you therefore, brothers, that through this man forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you, and by him everyone who believes is freed from everything from which you could not be freed by the law of Moses." Acts 13:38-39

"For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek." Romans 1:16

"because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” Romans 10:9-13

None of these verses mention anything about water baptism, just believing in Christ. This makes it quite apparent that John 3:5, being interpreted the way that you presented it, is a misconseption.

Sorry for this being so long. God Bless you.

YAH... baptism doesn't save anyone.. and the account with nicodemus isn't about water baptism but being initially born in your mum's womb.. then later in life being born again by the Holy Spirit.

Nicodemus question is about being born in mother's womb.. going back to it.. not about water baptism. So Jesus carries that context through.. saying you are born in your mother's womb .. yes.. but you also need to be born again of God through entrusting your eternal destiny with Me.

So being 'born of the water and the Spirit' is.. being born of the mother's womb at birth.. then being born again by the Holy Spirit sealing someone for eternity unto the day of redemption.

So water baptism becomes not about becoming a child of God.. that has already happened, when that person received Christ. But it is a public declaration of the faith you are growing in and won't to declare. It is symbol.. with no redemptive merit.

This is straight christian doctrine.

Baptism for salvation is cult doctrine or a perversion on scripture to be honest.

salvation = Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Joh 4:14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

Joh 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.


now the reason you see baptism with salvation in the NT is because most of the time.. they baptised believers straight after salvation. Not because they had to.. or it saved them.. but because people were ready for it.

 

[Cako53]

YAH... baptism doesn't save anyone.. and the account with nicodemus isn't about water baptism but being initially born in your mum's womb.. then later in life being born again by the Holy Spirit.

Nicodemus question is about being born in mother's womb.. going back to it.. not about water baptism. So Jesus carries that context through.. saying you are born in your mother's womb .. yes.. but you also need to be born again of God through entrusting your eternal destiny with Me.

So being 'born of the water and the Spirit' is.. being born of the mother's womb at birth.. then being born again by the Holy Spirit sealing someone for eternity unto the day of redemption.

So water baptism becomes not about becoming a child of God.. that has already happened, when that person received Christ. But it is a public declaration of the faith you are growing in and won't to declare. It is symbol.. with no redemptive merit.

This is straight christian doctrine.

Baptism for salvation is cult doctrine or a perversion on scripture to be honest.

salvation = Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Joh 4:14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

Joh 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.


now the reason you see baptism with salvation in the NT is because most of the time.. they baptised believers straight after salvation. Not because they had to.. or it saved them.. but because people were ready for it.

Nicely put

 

[HolyTriX]

Congradulations, You made the angels rejoice today.

 

[Paroso]

That looks good to my ears!

Congratulations

 

[jhspy1]

Congrats the heaven is singing

 

[NoTearsShed]

Thanks everyone


My boyfriend got baptized last month too

I dont have any pictures only his video...