Neither verse says what you keep claiming. Why can't you cite any verse that actually DOES say what you claim?
Because the Bible doesn't say what you claim.
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Because the Bible doesn't say what you claim.
You cant accept that truth can you ?John 12 ..The keep reading principal. Calvinism will never teach you to do that.
32And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
33This he said, signifying what death he should die.
Yes I have explained, and not going to do it again.You know better. If you explained what "refuse" means, just identify the post #. I dare you.
I say that about you. Man naturally cannot come/believe in Christ Jn 6:44,65Biblical trurh seems not to make any difference to you.
Sure they say it No man can come to me. Can denotes ability, so they dot have ability. Thats spiritual inability.Neither verse says what you keep claiming. Why can't you cite any verse that actually DOES say what you claim?
Because the Bible doesn't say what you claim.
They can come. Jesus draws ALL men after the cross . So being ' drawn ' and believing are not the same. Unless your a universalist ?I say that about you. Man naturally cannot come/believe in Christ Jn 6:44,65
44No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.Sure they say it No man can come to me. Can denotes ability, so they dot have ability. Thats spiritual inability.
So all the ones CAN come because the Father draws them . Remember Jesus later says he will DRAW ALL men to him in John 12.32 ( After the cross) .
Now a lot were drawn to Jesus by the Father and most of them left him . So drawing is not drinking the water also ( lead the horse to water but not FORCE them to drink ) .
“Except the Father which hath sent me, DRAW HIM.” Note the reference is not to any Christian who showed up on this earth after Acts 2Sure they say it No man can come to me. Can denotes ability, so they dot have ability. Thats spiritual inability.
Jeremiah 31:3 where the loved ones whom God “drew to Him” were cast out of His sight (Jer. 14:16, 7:15, 15:1)Sure they say it No man can come to me. Can denotes ability, so they dot have ability. Thats spiritual inability.
The cant come naturally by their own freewill Jn 6:44,65They can come. Jesus draws ALL men after the cross . So being ' drawn ' and believing are not the same. Unless your a universalist ?
Keep reading.Sure they say it No man can come to me. Can denotes ability, so they dot have ability. Thats spiritual inability.
45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
Yeah. the drawing is in the Day of Gods Power via regeneration Ps 110:3“Except the Father which hath sent me, DRAW HIM.” Note the reference is not to any Christian who showed up on this earth after Acts 2
3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.
Let's stick to the verse and context. Let's not add commentary thats not there.The cant come naturally by their own freewill Jn 6:44,65
Let's try stick to the verse .Yeah. the drawing is in the Day of Gods Power via regeneration Ps 110:3
3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.
Man has no ability to come to Christ/Believe in Christ Jn 6:44,65. Sure he can come once he is a new creature by the Spirit. One has to be Spiritual to be taught of God.Keep reading.
45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
Nothing wrong with commentary, nevertheless, man cannot come to Christ, believe on Him Jn 6:44,65Let's stick to the verse and context. Let's not add commentary thats not there.
Im explaining scripture. If you dont want me to, then dont ask me about a verse anymore.Let's try stick to the verse .
I'm asking about John 6. The meaning of the verse has to be understood in its immediate context of the chapter and book first before we go tip toeing through the bible to ' harmonise ' .Im explaining scripture. If you dont want me to, then dont ask me about a verse anymore.
Back to John 6 . Go back a few verses to 39 ( let's try focus on the chapter in question, this is usually tricky for some Christians to do ) 39Yeah. the drawing is in the Day of Gods Power via regeneration Ps 110:3
3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.
“That every one which SEETH the Son...raise HIM up at the last day”
I believe this verse means what it says, do you ?
John 6.39Yeah. the drawing is in the Day of Gods Power via regeneration Ps 110:3
3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.
40And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
When the resurrection on the “last day” takes place, every Christian who got saved from Acts 2 to the Rapture (1 Thess. 4; 1 Cor. 15) will have already been reigning a thousand years on earth with Christ (Rev. 20:1–6), having been “conformed to His image” (sinless perfection) BEFORE the Millennial Reign begins.