How to abstain from sex anti contraceptive Christians?

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jameen

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To all anti contraceptive Christians here:

May you please educate us how to do it? because it is very simple to say it especially if you're single and never have a boyfriend, girlfriend, husband or wife.

I myself is really convince that using contraceptives is a sin depends on the intention of the user.

I will never subscribe to the teachings of the local Catholic clergy of my country that using contraceptives is automatically a sin and tantamount to doing an abortion hahaha funny and ridiculous. (for me this is a distorted teaching because our clergy wants my compatriots to procreate a lot in order to stay poor for their lifetime so they can easily control them)
 
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The best contraceptive is abstinence/celibacy :whistle:
 
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CandieM

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:unsure: ... If it isn't a sin ...

... then maybe the two consenting partners can have intercourse without penetration? There are a lot of ways to have sexual intercourse without penetration, but for the sake of following the rules, I won't go into them. Maybe they are a sin, and maybe they are not, so don't take my word for it ─ read the Bible to make sure. However, if it isn't a sin, then there are other parts of your body that you can use for the sake of pleasure, to it's fullest extent, without penetration. All you have to do is use your mind and be willing and open, as will your partner.

:oops::oops:

By the way, I am fully celibate and not in any partnership whatsoever.
 
hornetguy

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Rather than worry about it, why don't you simply use contraceptives and not pay attention to what the "clergy" thinks? I don't mean that you should be confrontational about it, but unless the clergy is in your bedroom (kitchen, wherever :)) how will they know whether you use contraceptives, or not?

Don't ask.... don't tell.
 
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CandieM

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CandieM said:
:unsure: ... If it isn't a sin ...

... then maybe the two consenting partners can have intercourse without penetration? There are a lot of ways to have sexual intercourse without penetration, but for the sake of following the rules, I won't go into them. Maybe they are a sin, and maybe they are not, so don't take my word for it ─ read the Bible to make sure. However, if it isn't a sin, then there are other parts of your body that you can use for the sake of pleasure, to it's fullest extent, without penetration. All you have to do is use your mind and be willing and open, as will your partner.

:oops::oops:

By the way, I am fully celibate and not in any partnership whatsoever.
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Is this what the Bible is referring to when it mentions that sensuality is a sin? My original understanding of this was pornography, but does what I typed above apply instead, or apply also? Really, I don't know.
 
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emmyjerome

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jameen said:
To all anti contraceptive Christians here:

May you please educate us how to do it? because it is very simple to say it especially if you're single and never have a boyfriend, girlfriend, husband or wife.

I myself is really convince that using contraceptives is a sin depends on the intention of the user.

I will never subscribe to the teachings of the local Catholic clergy of my country that using contraceptives is automatically a sin and tantamount to doing an abortion hahaha funny and ridiculous. (for me this is a distorted teaching because our clergy wants my compatriots to procreate a lot in order to stay poor for their lifetime so they can easily control them)
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any sex outside marriage is considering to be a SIN
 
Ahwatukee

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hornetguy said:
Rather than worry about it, why don't you simply use contraceptives and not pay attention to what the "clergy" thinks? I don't mean that you should be confrontational about it, but unless the clergy is in your bedroom (kitchen, wherever :)) how will they know whether you use contraceptives, or not?

Don't ask.... don't tell.
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But God knows! And that's what matters, because He is the One who will be doing the judging.
 
hornetguy

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I believe that two people who have decided it is "ok" for them to have sex, then they are free to do whatever they wish, as long as both parties are willing and able.

"sensuality" as a sin is more like when someone participates in something sexual with someone they are NOT allowed to.

These are very broad descriptions, and certainly not all-inclusive....
 
hornetguy

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Ahwatukee said:
But God knows! And that's what matters, because He is the One who will be doing the judging.
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While that is correct, God DOES know what we do.... where do you read that God told mankind that contraception is a sin? I must have missed that. I was not suggesting they try to hide their actions from God, just from the squirrelly "authority" figures in the RCC.
 
blue_ladybug

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In today's world, people SHOULD be using protection anyways. So many cheating partners, STD's, you name it out there.. and there are far too many "oops" babies in the world already.
 
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MissCris

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How to abstain from sex:

1. Don't have sex.

...when that doesn't work, try not bathing for several weeks...

Short of that, maybe...maaaaaybe...just use a condom.
 
notuptome

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Just cultivate a stronger love in your heart for Christ than lust in your heart for the pleasures of the flesh.

Is this a pick and choose obedience to the Lord? If you start to pick you have just given your testimony over to the world and abandoned the Lord Who bought you with His precious blood.

Solomon warns in Proverbs many times that going and giving your strength to women is a path which leads to death.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
Ahwatukee

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hornetguy said:
While that is correct, God DOES know what we do.... where do you read that God told mankind that contraception is a sin? I must have missed that. I was not suggesting they try to hide their actions from God, just from the squirrelly "authority" figures in the RCC.
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It falls under sexual immorality. It is sin because we are interfering with God natural process of child birth. It is only because of science and technology that we are able to interrupt that process. I am positive that at the great white throne judgment that many will be held accountable for these, as well as the rest of their sins. Just because science and technology makes it possible for people to derail that process, does not mean that God approves of it. Jesus said that they will be held accountable for every idle word that they have spoken and so I am sure that their use of those things will be on the list.
 
hornetguy

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Ahwatukee said:
It falls under sexual immorality. It is sin because we are interfering with God natural process of child birth. It is only because of science and technology that we are able to interrupt that process. I am positive that at the great white throne judgment that many will be held accountable for these, as well as the rest of their sins. Just because science and technology makes it possible for people to derail that process, does not mean that God approves of it. Jesus said that they will be held accountable for every idle word that they have spoken and so I am sure that their use of those things will be on the list.
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Sorry... we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. In your scenario, any couple that uses the "rhythm method" would be sinning as well... there is simply no scriptural evidence to support that as being "sin". However, if it violates YOUR conscience, then it would be a sin for you and your spouse. Others are free to follow their own conscience, absent a direct command from God.
 
jameen

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emmyjerome said:
any sex outside marriage is considering to be a SIN
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Agree and using contraceptives for fornication is also a sin.

But I believe God allowed contraceptives to exist because if not, man will never have knowledge to create it.

We must remember that it is God who gave humans knowledge.

And anything happens in the world is allowed by God to happen.

So I believe using contraceptives depends on the intention of the user.
 
Mel85

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jameen said:
Agree and using contraceptives for fornication is also a sin.

But I believe God allowed contraceptives to exist because if not, man will never have knowledge to create it.

We must remember that it is God who gave humans knowledge.

And anything happens in the world is allowed by God to happen.

So I believe using contraceptives depends on the intention of the user.
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And people have also been given ‘free will’ to choose to use that knowledge.

Also, remember when God told Adam and Eve to stay away from that tree of knowledge? Yeah, then there’s that knowledge too....
 
jameen

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Just cultivate a stronger love in your heart for Christ than lust in your heart for the pleasures of the flesh.

Is this a pick and choose obedience to the Lord? If you start to pick you have just given your testimony over to the world and abandoned the Lord Who bought you with His precious blood.

Solomon warns in Proverbs many times that going and giving your strength to women is a path which leads to death.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
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Women not your wife. it pertains to adultery

Roger, do you really have a wife?

I am sick hearing religious explanations.

What I want here are effective pieces of advice about how to control your libido and manage still not to have sex.

Anti contraceptive Christians here must admit that they really are married because it is very easy for a single man to say to abstain from sex w/o realizing that it is unavoidable for loving couple to have sex to show their highest form of love.

It could be hypocritical to disagree contraceptives when you did not even experience having a husband/wife and sexual urge after it.
 
jameen

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MissCris said:
How to abstain from sex:

1. Don't have sex.

...when that doesn't work, try not bathing for several weeks...

Short of that, maybe...maaaaaybe...just use a condom.
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The question is how not to have sex sister? will your husband release his semen by hand, drink a lot of beer until he falls asleep or to overwork.

if you say using a condom, then it is still using contraceptives and you have sex with your husband using it.

Not to take a bath? common can you endure that? what if you're a working woman? will your work mates bear to smell your body for not taking a bath?
 
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