How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church
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No, I am correcting your error by showing what the Greek word actually means.
Mat 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
Mat 25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
Those represent individuals.
Hmm? So I'm confused--you are responding to PAUL'S words....and? What's your point exactly?
Big hint that this is not on Earth is that the goats go to the lake of fire after their judgement. There is no lake of fire, eternal fire, etc. spoken of in scripture that is on Earth. The only time and place where anyone or anything goes to a lake of fire is after the great white throne judgement and it occurs after the second resurrection where unbelievers go to their second death. (Revelation 20: 11-15)
Keep in view the question you asked, how are there mortal humans on Earth in light of Matthew 25:31-46? Simple answer is that Matthew 25:31-46 is not on Earth or that would stand in contradiction to Revelation 20:7-9. My interpretation, which I don't believe is mine but rather the Biblical interpretation, has no contradictions. Your interpretation does not stand to scrutiny and scripture refutes it.
Yes, that is correct.
Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Earth and heaven fleeing away means this is a place away from both Heaven and Earth.
The KJV uses the word "nations", but perhaps I took for granted that we all knew this is not a reference to the various nationalities and countries. Nations is actually the Greek word ethnos and it's a reference to race/ethnicity; it's referring to non-Jewish people, but Matthew 25:31-46 is not a standalone passage sufficient to define who a true Jew is; the goats are unbelievers (spiritually non-Jewish people) who have rejected Christ, the world Savior. As we all know, a true Jew is one who has a circumcised heart and spirit per Romans 2:29.
Here's your actual Biblical definition of what the "nations" are:
G1484 - ethnos - a race (as of the same habit), that is, a tribe; specifically a foreign (non-Jewish) one (usually by implication pagan): - Gentile, heathen, nation, people.
Tell me, who do you think these people are in Revelation 20?
Rev. 20:11-12
11And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
If you guessed they are unbelievers with hearts and spirits that are not circumcised (spiritually non-Jewish) then you guessed correctly. They are the "nations."
Dear Friend,
The hole in the theory is taken away when you realize that there is no literal 1000 year reign and that Christ is reigning now!
Again I say-look up the word 1000 and its use in scripture it is always FIGURATIVE.
"My kingdom is not of this world" --and if it wasn't then it certainly isn't going to be in the future.
I would say that is quite a leap of faith to consider Matt. 25:31-46 as taking place in heaven.
But if that's the way you see it, ok!
Are not nations comprised of people? Can you have a nation without individuals?
PEACE
Not sure if it was you or another, I'm thinking Miss Laura, though. See if this rings a bell or sounds a whistle.
John 18:36
"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence."
Jesus said now is not my Kingdom, but it's gonna be!
Matt. 25:31-32
"When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:"
This is when His Kingdom will be of this world! Do you recognize when that is?
The Greek word G5507 chilioi never is used figuratively. The word has a specific meaning in Greek as the number of a thousand of something single, in this case a thousand of a year or a "thousand years" which is why it is a plural word. The Greek language also has a version of the word that means one thing that equals a thousand which is why that word is written in the singular. It's like having a thousand one dollar bills vs. having a thousand dollar bill.
Either way, G5507 chilioi cannot and does not mean more or less than exactly a thousand.
Dear Sister, i agree that there is some symbolism in Revelation such as the Dragon to describe satan.
The Thousand Year Reign is a literal period of time that God firmly established in Genesis but because of sin, man fell short of it.
PEACE
Now I think it's what you said in post #4665, it's not in Heaven or Earth. That rules out the possibility that the "lake of fire" is a reference to the Earth's interior of molten magma. The GWTJ and the lake of fire are somewhere else that we don't seem to know where exactly.
Revelation 20:11
11And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
The pit and Hades (possibly the same place) is said to be located in the Earth but certainly the GWTJ and LOF is not based on that scripture. It makes sense to me to have such a terrible place so far away from what will be a paradise for all eternity.
Wonderful!
Somebody else understands that "before him shall be gathered all nations" is referring to "the whole population" (of the earth - as individuals) rather than "this nation is a sheep, this nation is a goat"...
I'm sorry Runningman, I can't agree with your buddy on this one!
"From whose face the earth and the heaven fled away, and no place was found for them" actually means,
The old earth and heaven are passing away, being cleansed, making way for the NEW heaven and earth, Rev. 21:1.
That which was stained by sin, has no more place.
Rev. 12:1 is just 4 verses away and explains what is happening!
That proves the Earth and Heaven fleeing is not the NHNE because the GWTJ happens in Revelation 20, and the New Heaven and new Earth happens in Revelation 21.
No, it just means the old sin stained world is passing away before Him who sits on the throne.
The new world that God originally intended is now arriving. That's all it means!
It's a new world with a new beginnig!