How many sins were taken at the death of Jesus?

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homwardbound

Senior Member
Oct 24, 2012
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#1
All?
Some?
None?

How many sins, are left for anyone, whether anyone believes God in Son or not?

Is it Done, finished by Son? John 19:30. If is, what is next

Is it to Believe or not believe God in risen Son? is that it
Or is it to Beleive and not stop belief, even if one sins again? to learn new daily from and see what one has done or has been doing is not good for them to continue in. One becomes in agreement with God and thus stops it, humbly.

Are we in and out?, Saved and then not saved? Is it we are out by man and not by God? Who is always faithful man or God?

God seals his kids, God is to be depended on, true or false?

Are we, that are in belief to God, are we growing in grace given us by God?

I know this for sure, I am not perfect and no one else is but God.

When my obedience becomes perfect, then I will get ready to punish everyone else in unbelief, including those claiming to believe. Any one else?
2 Corinthians 10:6
and having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.
Mine is not, I am still learning and sharing, hoping the rest here are too, thank you
Just because anyone claims to believe God, does not mean these never sin again ever. or does it?
Anyone self righteous? I am not
 

Pilgrimshope

Well-known member
Sep 2, 2020
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#2
“By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?

Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

….In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.

Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness,

but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness.


For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace. What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means!

Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey

whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death,

or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?

But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you have come to obey from your heart the pattern of teaching that has now claimed your allegiance.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:2-4, 11-17‬ ‭NIV‬‬

do you see how Jesus dying , then has Christian doctrine attatched to it that we’re taught to do because we believe ?

What I mean is this

“For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:3

that’s a fact and it’s true , so then what is a believer of it to do ?

“When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins.

And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.””
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:37-39‬ ‭NIV‬‬

a the thing is we shouldn’t resist this and say no Jesus died and did it so then I have nothing I’m supposed to do . Instead we’re meant to believe what Jesus did and then do this

“all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life. “

people think of doctrine as just a ritual or something but if a person knows what God said about something and then acts upon it his promise will be fuflilled whatever he’s said and attatched to the action like in that example

“ I hear about Jesus dying for my sins and then I believe it and I’m thankful , then I hear about baptism for remission of sins in his name and I’m thankful and gladly partake of the offer and promise

“Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. ….With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.” Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38, 40-41‬ ‭NIV‬‬

they only acted because they accepted what he was telling them to do when they wanted to know what to do . He only told the. What to do because Jesus told him to go preach the gospel and baptize in his name for remission of sins

“Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:17‬ ‭ONIV

When we hear what god said will save us if we believe then we can act upon faith
 

p_rehbein

Senior Member
Sep 4, 2013
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#3
The blood shed Jesus shed on the cross covers all the sins of man but one. That being the sin of blasphemy. The blood is there waiting for a sinner to ask for forgiveness. Even saved believers who sin through omission must ask for forgiveness of their sins committed after their salvation. Jesus taught us this when He taught us how to pray. Read His prayer and you will see this is true.

What is not true is when someone believes any sin they commit after salvation is automatically forgiven and they need not ask for forgiveness. Without asking there is no forgiveness. This does not equate to crucifying Jesus more than once as some use for their excuse for not asking. The blood HAS been shed and REMAINS there to cleanse those who ask for forgiveness. No need for Jesus to EVER shed His blood again.

Read the Lords Prayer with spiritual understanding please
 

homwardbound

Senior Member
Oct 24, 2012
16,888
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#4
“By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?

Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

….In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.

Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness,

but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness.


For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace. What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means!

Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey

whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death,

or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?

But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you have come to obey from your heart the pattern of teaching that has now claimed your allegiance.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:2-4, 11-17‬ ‭NIV‬‬

do you see how Jesus dying , then has Christian doctrine attatched to it that we’re taught to do because we believe ?

What I mean is this

“For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:3

that’s a fact and it’s true , so then what is a believer of it to do ?

“When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins.

And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.””
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:37-39‬ ‭NIV‬‬

a the thing is we shouldn’t resist this and say no Jesus died and did it so then I have nothing I’m supposed to do . Instead we’re meant to believe what Jesus did and then do this

“all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life. “

people think of doctrine as just a ritual or something but if a person knows what God said about something and then acts upon it his promise will be fuflilled whatever he’s said and attatched to the action like in that example

“ I hear about Jesus dying for my sins and then I believe it and I’m thankful , then I hear about baptism for remission of sins in his name and I’m thankful and gladly partake of the offer and promise

“Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. ….With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.” Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38, 40-41‬ ‭NIV‬‬

they only acted because they accepted what he was telling them to do when they wanted to know what to do . He only told the. What to do because Jesus told him to go preach the gospel and baptize in his name for remission of sins

“Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:17‬ ‭ONIV

When we hear what god said will save us if we believe then we can act upon faith
Under Law, under the curse of the Law, used by evil to bring people under sin, and be worse in sin than before Law was ever revealed.
We are all born with knowing, not aware until a certain place in our lives does one see it and believes it, or does not at all and makes there own righteous way(s), even using Bible verses to get their ways in there own interpretations and gets rewards from people, over God giving them, the real life in God's Spirit and Truth.
That is the deception of the natural first birth in all mankind, I see this now, thanking God for revealing it, for me to see it and learn to walk as called in love and mercy to all, as Son did that first
wow!
 

Pilgrimshope

Well-known member
Sep 2, 2020
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#5
Under Law, under the curse of the Law, used by evil to bring people under sin, and be worse in sin than before Law was ever revealed.
We are all born with knowing, not aware until a certain place in our lives does one see it and believes it, or does not at all and makes there own righteous way(s), even using Bible verses to get their ways in there own interpretations and gets rewards from people, over God giving them, the real life in God's Spirit and Truth.
That is the deception of the natural first birth in all mankind, I see this now, thanking God for revealing it, for me to see it and learn to walk as called in love and mercy to all, as Son did that first
wow!
…..
It is the spirit that quickeneth;

the flesh profiteth nothing:

the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:63‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭16:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”


“But if ye be led of the Spirit, ( Christs word the gospel ) ye are not under the law. ( Moses word the law )

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭5:18-21‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

Pilgrimshope

Well-known member
Sep 2, 2020
14,845
5,995
113
#6
All?
Some?
None?

How many sins, are left for anyone, whether anyone believes God in Son or not?

Is it Done, finished by Son? John 19:30. If is, what is next

Is it to Believe or not believe God in risen Son? is that it
Or is it to Beleive and not stop belief, even if one sins again? to learn new daily from and see what one has done or has been doing is not good for them to continue in. One becomes in agreement with God and thus stops it, humbly.

Are we in and out?, Saved and then not saved? Is it we are out by man and not by God? Who is always faithful man or God?

God seals his kids, God is to be depended on, true or false?

Are we, that are in belief to God, are we growing in grace given us by God?

I know this for sure, I am not perfect and no one else is but God.

When my obedience becomes perfect, then I will get ready to punish everyone else in unbelief, including those claiming to believe. Any one else?
2 Corinthians 10:6
and having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.
Mine is not, I am still learning and sharing, hoping the rest here are too, thank you
Just because anyone claims to believe God, does not mean these never sin again ever. or does it?
Anyone self righteous? I am not
“Is it to Believe or not believe God in risen Son? is that it
Or is it to Beleive and not stop belief, even if one sins again?”

“Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:36-38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

but if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭6:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.”
‭‭James‬ ‭2:12-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: but if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭1:6-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:25‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭9:15‬ ‭

“Anyone self righteous? I am not”

jesus can change us from what we were to what we are if we don’t reject his word in the gospel

if so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:

that ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;

and be renewed in the spirit of your mind; ( hear and learn from Jesus and believe )

and that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4:21-24‬

It’s not self righteous to accept the doctrine and the change he teaches Jesus came to change sinners to children of God the mind changes as we believe the gospel and learn the truth God gave us to know and believe

when a believer sins they should know they’ve sinned and it should bring guilt and sorrow because tbier heart is set on righteousness this leads us to repentance when we have sinned like this

“For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭7:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

air I’m sorry because I sinned it’s going to lead to repentance , if I’m sorry I didn’t get my way it’s not going to help

a Jesus didn’t die so we could continue in sin without consewuence but so they could be remitted and we could be healed and made righteous

“who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭2:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬


It isnt self righteous to accept that God is trying to change us from wrong to right it’s the plan of God to save sinners

“I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭5:32‬

“I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭13:3‬ ‭

“if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; and that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2:25-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:9‬ ‭

“Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; Who will render to every man according to his deeds:”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭2:4-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

repentance doesn’t mean now your self righteous and sinless it means that when you realize you have sinned next week and become aware of it it’s going to make you feel guilty and sorrowful like you did something wrong and need to right it

what this does to believers is brings then into an honest real relationship with God regarding sin he knows we aren’t perfect that’s not what it’s about

Its about not being okay with serving satans Will and resisting continually when we fail it should bring acknowledgement confession and repentance

We’re forgiven uo front like this

“And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents. But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his Lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made. The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. Then the Lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.

(in the end he wouldt forgive others debts and what happens ? )


…. And his Lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him. So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭18:24-27, 34-35‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The gospel introduced the law of mercy which can save sinners and bring them to repentance . As long as we think obeying God is self righteousness we still have some changing to let happen in our mind through bekieving the gospel Jesus came to make sinners , obedient to God
 

homwardbound

Senior Member
Oct 24, 2012
16,888
612
113
#7
“Is it to Believe or not believe God in risen Son? is that it
Or is it to Beleive and not stop belief, even if one sins again?”

“Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:36-38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

but if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭6:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.”
‭‭James‬ ‭2:12-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: but if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭1:6-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:25‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭9:15‬ ‭

“Anyone self righteous? I am not”

jesus can change us from what we were to what we are if we don’t reject his word in the gospel

if so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:

that ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;

and be renewed in the spirit of your mind; ( hear and learn from Jesus and believe )

and that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4:21-24‬

It’s not self righteous to accept the doctrine and the change he teaches Jesus came to change sinners to children of God the mind changes as we believe the gospel and learn the truth God gave us to know and believe

when a believer sins they should know they’ve sinned and it should bring guilt and sorrow because tbier heart is set on righteousness this leads us to repentance when we have sinned like this

“For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭7:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

air I’m sorry because I sinned it’s going to lead to repentance , if I’m sorry I didn’t get my way it’s not going to help

a Jesus didn’t die so we could continue in sin without consewuence but so they could be remitted and we could be healed and made righteous

“who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭2:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬


It isnt self righteous to accept that God is trying to change us from wrong to right it’s the plan of God to save sinners

“I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭5:32‬

“I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭13:3‬ ‭

“if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; and that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2:25-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:9‬ ‭

“Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; Who will render to every man according to his deeds:”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭2:4-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

repentance doesn’t mean now your self righteous and sinless it means that when you realize you have sinned next week and become aware of it it’s going to make you feel guilty and sorrowful like you did something wrong and need to right it

what this does to believers is brings then into an honest real relationship with God regarding sin he knows we aren’t perfect that’s not what it’s about

Its about not being okay with serving satans Will and resisting continually when we fail it should bring acknowledgement confession and repentance

We’re forgiven uo front like this

“And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents. But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his Lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made. The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. Then the Lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.

(in the end he wouldt forgive others debts and what happens ? )


…. And his Lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him. So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭18:24-27, 34-35‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The gospel introduced the law of mercy which can save sinners and bring them to repentance . As long as we think obeying God is self righteousness we still have some changing to let happen in our mind through bekieving the gospel Jesus came to make sinners , obedient to God
‘Willingly, or it has no real effect. Thanks for the truth post, to save us humbly so.