How Israel can be saved

[tobewholeagain]

There is only two thing that can save the Zionists

• Embrace the Palestinians as brothers
• ask the Lord for forgiveness

If not, the following biblical verse will become an historical face.
who agrees/disagrees and why?
God’s words are written in the Holy Bible and the following is what He said-----
Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

They can become Christian and evangelize the Arabs

 

[notmyown]

Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

Ez 21:32

wasn't that spoken against the Ammonites? have you met an Ammonite recently?

 

[PennEd]

Ez 21:32

wasn't that spoken against the Ammonites? have you met an Ammonite recently?

Yes. The OP has posted for years about his vile disdain against the Jews and Israel.

Here is the WHOLE passage. There is ZERO debate it is about the Ammonites, NOT Israel or the Jews.

Umm....Has anybody seen an Ammonite lately?

A Sword Against the Ammonites
28 “And you, son of man, prophesy and say, ‘Thus says the Lord God concerning the Ammonites and concerning their reproach,’ and say:

‘A sword, a sword is drawn,
Polished for slaughter,
For consuming, for flashing—
29 While they see false visions for you,
While they divine a lie to you,
To bring you on the necks of the wicked, the slain
Whose day has come,
Whose iniquity shall end.
30 ‘Return it to its sheath.
I will judge you
In the place where you were created,
In the land of your [g]nativity.
31 I will pour out My indignation on you;
I will blow against you with the fire of My wrath,
And deliver you into the hands of brutal men who are skillful to destroy.
32 You shall be fuel for the fire;
Your blood shall be in the midst of the land.
You shall not be remembered,
For I the Lord have spoken.’ ”

 

[HeIsHere]

There is only two thing that can save the Zionists

• Embrace the Palestinians as brothers
• ask the Lord for forgiveness

If not, the following biblical verse will become an historical face.
who agrees/disagrees and why?
God’s words are written in the Holy Bible and the following is what He said-----
Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

They will do the above by the Grace of God which comes by a regenerated spirit.

The process will be greatly assisted when Zionist Christians follow the words of Jesus and realize what He prophesied has come to pass.
There is neither Jew no Gentile in Christ Jesus.

 

[Dino246]

There is only two thing that can save the Zionists

• Embrace the Palestinians as brothers
• ask the Lord for forgiveness

Are you suggesting that either will suffice? If so, you're contradicting Scripture.

Are you suggesting that both are required? If so, you're contradicting Scripture.

The "Zionists" as you call them (what the rest of the world calls "Israelis") must believe on Messiah Yeshua for salvation, for there is no other name under heaven given to me by which they must be saved. Period.

That, of course, would require that they believe Messiah has come, but they are lost in the lie that He has not come (see 1 John 4:2-3).

 

[PennEd]

Are you suggesting that either will suffice? If so, you're contradicting Scripture.

Are you suggesting that both are required? If so, you're contradicting Scripture.

The "Zionists" as you call them (what the rest of the world calls "Israelis") must believe on Messiah Yeshua for salvation, for there is no other name under heaven given to me by which they must be saved. Period.

That, of course, would require that they believe Messiah has come, but they are lost in the lie that He has not come (see 1 John 4:2-3).

Look at this pure heresy from the OP in a previous thread.

TOBEWHOLEAGAIN
“In conclusion, after reviewing all the available written facts concerning Jesus Christ, I find overwhelming evidence that Jesus
Christ did not die for our sins but was murdered by the Romans, at the request of the local Rabbis in Jerusalem and in return, the revolt against the Roman occupation would stop.
After reviewing all the evidence, I could find, the above is my conclusion.
Agree with it or disagree-? “

 

[Blade]

There is only two thing that can save the Zionists

• Embrace the Palestinians as brothers
• ask the Lord for forgiveness

If not, the following biblical verse will become an historical face.
who agrees/disagrees and why?
God’s words are written in the Holy Bible and the following is what He said-----
Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

Praise GOD He does not remember my past What is it you believe? What others say.. what ever. You would have to know being on this site that Yeshua is the only hope for "loving one another" for "forgiveness". See without Christ there is no way in. We don't get the right to make that choice as much as we believe we can.

The Jewish people might have left GOD and rejected the messiah but He has never left them. If we know the Torah/OT we know He has made many promises and He always keeps His word. All Israel shall be saved. Not the every person but the nation. God loves this whole world but that Nation is not to be played with

 

[Pilgrimshope]

There is only two thing that can save the Zionists

• Embrace the Palestinians as brothers
• ask the Lord for forgiveness

If not, the following biblical verse will become an historical face.
who agrees/disagrees and why?
God’s words are written in the Holy Bible and the following is what He said-----
Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

a an Israelite or gentile can only be saved one way

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

this doesn’t exclude Israel it makes Israel equal to all people began with them and will also end with them

“And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, And shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, When I shall take away their sins.

For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. ( irrevocable )

For as ye ( gentiles ) in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: ( they rejected Jesus and because of that the gospel was sent to all )

even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭11:26-27, 29-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The gentiles and Jews have been made one people and have one king and savior

“Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; that at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: but now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; and that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: and came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; and are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; in whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: in whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2:11-22‬ ‭KJV‬‬

what I’m saying is israel or gentiles can be saved o my the one way to repent and believe the gospel of our lord there’s no other way for any person jew or gentile

“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭4:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The name is Jesus declared by the everlasting gospel

 

[Lanolin]

Only by the name of Jesus can anyone be saved. People may call him Lord Lord but dont do what He says.

 

[Rondonmon]

There is only two thing that can save the Zionists

• Embrace the Palestinians as brothers
• ask the Lord for forgiveness

If not, the following biblical verse will become an historical face.
who agrees/disagrees and why?
God’s words are written in the Holy Bible and the following is what He said-----
Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

There is nothing to agree or disagree with because your whole thesis is incorrect. Why are you even asking the question? We all know by God's holy word how this will play out.

Dan. 9:27 states emphatically that Israel MUST REPENT before prophecy is fulfilled.

Zech. 13:8-9 says that 1/3 of the Jews/Israel will repent and call God God and He will call them His children. Then God Himself protects them in the Petra/Bozrah area.

In the exact same two verses we see that God says 2/3 will refuse to repent and die. Then in the very next verse, Zech. 14:1, we see the DOTL (God's Wrath) falls. and in vs. 2 Jerusalem is conquered, then in vs. 3 Jesus returns to kill the wicked.

So, what is the question even about? God can not lie, so we already know that 3.5-5 million Jews accept Jesus as their Messiah. The question is thus null and void.

 

[JaumeJ]

Why will New Jerusalem be brought down by our Maker? Does this not say that Jerusalem here today is not the Jerusalem of God?

The Israel on our maps is here to be the staging ground for the Beast and his prophet. Please , take it from there.

 

[oyster67]

There is only two thing that can save the Zionists

• Embrace the Palestinians as brothers
• ask the Lord for forgiveness

Israel shall be saved by means of being led out of tribulation and into the wilderness during the time of Jacob's Troubles. This immediately precedes and culminates in the Second Coming of Jesus the Christ and almighty Son of God.

 

[oyster67]

Why will New Jerusalem be brought down by our Maker?

There shall be a New Heaven and a New Earth. The old shall pass away.

2 Peter 3:
7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 8But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Does this not say that Jerusalem here today is not the Jerusalem of God?

Until the end of the 1000-year Reighn of Christ on (this) Earth, the current Jerusalem will likely remain.

The Israel on our maps is here to be the staging ground for the Beast and his prophet. Please , take it from there.

Yes, and it will surely remain the center of things onwards throughout the Millennium.

Revelation then reveals...

Revelation 20:
6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. 7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Revelation 21:
1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

 

[tobewholeagain]

“And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, And shall turn away

“shall be saved”
The truth is they had to comply with His commandments, and then, and only then could they be saved.

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King James Bible
And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel.
(Ezek 36:17 KJV) Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their ..own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.
(Ezek 36:18 KJV) Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it.
(Ezek 36:22 KJV) Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.
(Ezek 36:24 KJV) For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..The above occurred in 1947ad
(Ezek 36:31 KJV) Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall loathe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.
(Ezek 36:32 KJV) Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.
Google “Israel shooting children”
https://tinyurl.com/4v4nxymn
Google “Israel illegal settlements”
https://tinyurl.com/5w3ybbm8
Google “Israel destroying Palestinian fish boats
https://tinyurl.com/5n7b8zk6

BTW: some of the fathers of the murdered children strapped bombs to themselves in order to get the revenge and killing himself on the way

 

[tobewholeagain]

wasn't that spoken against the Ammonites? have you met an Ammonite recently?

no it was not
I can post the verses to prove it but it will take a series of verses to make my point
notmyown, do I post them?

 

[tobewholeagain]

25 And thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end,
26 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Remove the diadem, and take off the crown: this shall not be the same: exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high.
27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.
28 And thou, son of man, prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD concerning the Ammonites, and concerning their reproach; even say thou, The sword, the sword is drawn: for the slaughter it is furbished, to consume because of the glittering:
29 Whiles they see vanity unto thee, whiles they divine a lie unto thee, to bring thee upon the necks of them that are slain, of the wicked, whose day is come, when their iniquity shall have an end.
30 Shall I cause it to return into his sheath? I will judge thee in the place where thou wast created, in the land of thy nativity.
31 And I will pour out mine indignation upon thee, I will blow against thee in the fire of my wrath, and deliver thee into the hand of brutish men, and skilful to destroy.
32 Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

 

[tobewholeagain]

King James Bible
And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel.
(Ezek 36:17 KJV) Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their ..own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.
(Ezek 36:18 KJV) Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it.
(Ezek 36:22 KJV) Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.
(Ezek 36:24 KJV) For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..The above occurred in 1947ad
(Ezek 36:31 KJV) Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall loathe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.
(Ezek 36:32 KJV) Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.

 

[JaumeJ]

Please consider; just who comprise the Israel of God?

 

[tobewholeagain]

The current leaders of Israel are the terrorists
Google “Israel shooting children”
https://tinyurl.com/4v4nxymn
Google “Israel illegal settlements”
https://tinyurl.com/5w3ybbm8
Google “Israel destroying Palestinian fish boats
https://tinyurl.com/5n7b8zk6
BTW: some of the fathers of the murdered children strapped bombs to themselves in order to get the revenge and killing themselves on the way

Israel kills 100 children daily in Gaza since October 7th of this year [EN/AR]
Geneva - Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor stated that the Israeli army is crushing the innocence of Gaza's children, killing an average of 100 of them daily since the launch of its extensive military offensive against the region on the 7th of October of this year.
https://tinyurl.com/yy5rcesb