Sounds like you’ve won your argumentIt's very simple.
God baptised the gentiles in the holy spirit without them being baptized in water.God can actually do that .
Sounds like you’ve won your argumentIt's very simple.
God baptised the gentiles in the holy spirit without them being baptized in water.God can actually do that .
Sounds like you’ve won your argument
Note people do not have to be water baptized first. But both receiving the Holy Ghost and being water baptized in the name of Jesus are required in order to experience the NT rebirth. The experiences occur separate from one another as witnessed in scriptures relative to all groups of humanity. (Acts 2:38-41, 8:12-18, 9:17-18, 10:43-48, 19:1-6, 22:16)Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
First,water is not the name of Jesus.So when someone is Baptised in water,they are not Baptised in the name of Jesus but instead are Baptised in water.If they were Baptised in the holy spirit,then they are Baptised in the name of Jesus because the holy spirit comes in Jesus name.Water does not.
Second,the gentiles In scripture received the holy spirit without being baptized in water which proves your teaching is false that man must first be Baptised in water before they can recieve the holy spirit.
You should ask for the gift of the holy spirit so you can be saved.
Only one problem with thisBurn, it's a bit strange, being saved is not done reciting a formula, do you believe this? I don't.
a rich man asked Jesus how to be saved, hear the Jesus words, the son of GOD has to say;
Matthew, chapter 19, verses 16-26 in the King James Version:
"And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions. Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible."
Blessings
The tax collector did a prety good Job.What? Idk. Romans 10:13. A person can just pray a sinner’s pray “Lord forgive me a sinner.”
Why do you ask? Are you ministering to someone and they asked you that? Or are you asking for yourself?
Did he though?That’s right
Well then no one will ever have eternal life.I asked the question to that particular poster because he believes unless you keep the law, you will not have eternal life.
I would take the greek defenitionSo which common man washed you and made you clean?
Word: baptizw
Pronounce: bap-tid'-zo
Strongs Number: G907
Orig: from a derivative of 911; to immerse, submerge; to make whelmed (i.e. fully wet); used only (in the New Testament) of ceremonial ablution, especially (technically) of the ordinance of Christian baptism:--Baptist, baptize, wash. G911
And some men recieved bothMark 16
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Some people are baptized by men in water and some are baptized by God in his holy spirit.Which do you have faith in?
You mention you have received the Holy Ghost. Have you been water baptized in the name of Jesus for remission of your sins?Im speaking from experience .
I was Baptised in the holy spirit by God after believing the gospel I was reading.I received it Aug 31,1998 while I was praying in my home .There were no other humans in the house to lay hands on or Baptise me in water.God had done this on his own without assistance .
Mark 16
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
I was reading the gospel according to Mathew at the time.
If your not baptized By God being baptized in water will be of no benefit to you.Just get baptized in water for cryin' out loud. Why do people fight this? It's a no-brainer.
The word reveals that those who believe and submit in obedience to God's command of water baptism in the name of Jesus have their sins remitted. Receiving the indwelling presence of the Holy Ghost is required as well. Both experiences are required as revealed throughout scripture. Detailed conversion accounts leave no room for doubt. (Acts 2:38-41, 8:12-18, 9:17-18, 10:43-48, 19:1-6, 22:16)If your not baptized By God being baptized in water will be of no benefit to you.
you will still be dead in your sin,
Sorry my friend, Been here done this with you a thousand times, You misrepresenting a few choice verses does nto support your faulty legalistic gospel of works.The word reveals that those who believe and submit in obedience to God's command of water baptism in the name of Jesus have their sins remitted. Receiving the indwelling presence of the Holy Ghost is required as well. Both experiences are required as revealed throughout scripture. Detailed conversion accounts leave no room for doubt. (Acts 2:38-41, 8:12-18, 9:17-18, 10:43-48, 19:1-6, 22:16)
I received the Holy Ghost first. It was years later that I became aware of the need to be water baptized in the name of Jesus and had my sins washed away upon obedience to the word of God.Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
First,water is not the name of Jesus.So when someone is Baptised in water,they are not Baptised in the name of Jesus but instead are Baptised in water.If they were Baptised in the holy spirit,then they are Baptised in the name of Jesus because the holy spirit comes in Jesus name.Water does not.
Second,the gentiles In scripture received the holy spirit without being baptized in water which proves your teaching is false that man must first be Baptised in water before they can recieve the holy spirit.
You should ask for the gift of the holy spirit so you can be saved.
If you were not baptized by God. You did not recieve the Holy Spirit (anointing)I received the Holy Ghost first. It was years later that I became aware of the need to be water baptized in the name of Jesus and had my sins washed away upon obedience to the word of God.
No one is exempt from the requirement to lay a proper foundation as commanded by God and revealed in scripture. The items highlighted in the scripture below speak directly to the instructions given in the message first delivered to the Jews at Pentecost, as well as Samaritans, Gentiles, and 12 disciples of Ephesus.Sorry my friend, Been here done this with you a thousand times, You misrepresenting a few choice verses does nto support your faulty legalistic gospel of works.
I will speak of the gospel. The true gospel that saves. Not a modern day pharisee gospel of faith plus works. Which will never save
The foundation is Christ.No one is exempt from the requirement to lay a proper foundation as commanded by God and revealed in scripture. The items highlighted in the scripture below speak directly to the instructions given in the message first delivered to the Jews at Pentecost, as well as Samaritans, Gentiles, and 12 disciples of Ephesus.
Heb 5:12-6:2
For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
6 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying AGAIN the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment."
I received the Holy Ghost first. It was years later that I became aware of the need to be water baptized in the name of Jesus and had my sins washed away upon obedience to the word of God.
If you were not baptized by God. You did not recieve the Holy Spirit (anointing)
The Holy Spirit must immerse you into his death and Christ (romans 6) His body (1 cor 12) and Christ (gal 5) before he can come into you.
We are dead in sin, the sin issue must be resolved before new birth can take place and God can come into you