His People He foreknew !
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Probably something along the lines of the Biblical Jesus and not the new age Christ or what Mormons teach of Him.
The Jesus of the scripture Matt 1:21, what is it promised that he is going to do in that scripture?
To say "I never knew you" is not the same as "I never loved you".
Why would Jesus weep for Jerusalem if He didn't love them?
Hosea 11:8 NKJV “How can I give you up, Ephraim? How can I hand you over, Israel? How can I make you like Admah? How can I set you like Zeboiim? My heart churns within Me; My sympathy is stirred."
Okay, doesn’t really explain much.
The only reason we’re interested in this thread along with all the other pre-destined, elect, chosen etc (I guess some people call this calvinism), is because you guys have taken one idea (elect/ non-elect) and have made a religion out of it (to a point).
The only reason we’re interested in this thread along with all the other pre-destined, elect, chosen etc (I guess some people call this calvinism), is because you guys have taken one idea (elect/ non-elect) and have made a religion out of it (to a point).
@greenonions
Actually it is but you cant see it, in addition it means He never died for them either, He knows them as His Sheep He died for Jn 10:14-15
14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
Actually it is but you cant see it, in addition it means He never died for them either, He knows them as His Sheep He died for Jn 10:14-15
14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
More or less replacement theology. A RCC theology from a RCC priest.
How do you understand 1 John 2:2?
1 John 2:2 NKJV And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.
Jesus died so that it would be possible for all people to be saved (sufficient for all, efficient for the elect)
Those who refuse Jesus' atonement are blamed because it was offered to them, but they refused. If it was never offered to the unbelievers, then the unbelievers should not be punished for refusing it. I know we have many other sins to be punished for, but Hebrews 10:29 specifically mentions punishment for rejecting Christ's blood.
Hebrews 10:29 NKJV Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace?