Hi i am a traitor

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As usual i don't know where to put this but since i am new maybe here

A while now suddenly out of nowhere i felt i just want to die(based on exp moderators delete this kind of thread but i am not going to suicide so rest assured)

I just felt that i really want to die and there's no hope for me before this i betrayed the LORD God again

When i know the fact that all creature in this world dislike me i eventually just turned to God and said a lot of things but then the next day i betrayed him again

Whenever i come to him i eventually betray him this made me more depressed

The fact that i only has God but if he even abandoned me i just don't know where to go anymore

This is karma just like what happened to me last 2weeks ago yet again just like how judas betrayed the LORD for temporary pleasure and so i am
 

seoulsearch

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Hi R29,

The first thing that came to mind when you mentioned Judas betraying the Lord for earthly things is that you might also want to look at the story of Peter.

Peter had a chance to defend Jesus 3 times, and yet each time, he chose his own well-being instead of confessing his association with Jesus (this, after having told Jesus that he was willing to die for him.)

Talk about the ultimate betrayal.

And yes, Jesus did not reject Peter, and most certainly did not tell him that suicide was the answer.

Throughout the Bible, you will find major characters among the history of Jesus that betrayed their faith and their God through major acts of disobedience, but the Lord took them back every time (David, Abraham, Moses, Jonah, me!) God doesn't tell us that there isn't any hope and that we should just kill ourselves, but rather, He asks us to bring it all to Him ("Call to Me in the day of trouble, I shall rescue you, and you shall honor Me" - Psalm 50:15.)

I am truly sorry for your depression and hope that we can be of some encouragement to you. We have many other threads here from people who are struggling with the same types of feelings.

I hope you'll look up stories in the Bible such as Peter, as well as thread by others here who are fighting depression, and will hopefully find something you can relate to that might help.

Keep talking us, and I hope this won't be offensive, but I will pray that God will help you with these feelings.

God bless you and guide you.
 

tourist

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We have all betrayed Jesus at one time or another so please know that you're not alone in this. The good news is that God is merciful and compassionate and can restore our personal relationship with the Lord. No such thing as karma either so don't worry about such things. As far as depression is concerned there are many that suffer from that too including myself but take comfort in knowing that God wants us to have life and to have it more abundantly. Hopefully, you will find comfort, support and understanding from the members of this site. Glad to have you as part of our community. Welcome to CC.
 

Subhumanoidal

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As usual i don't know where to put this but since i am new maybe here

A while now suddenly out of nowhere i felt i just want to die(based on exp moderators delete this kind of thread but i am not going to suicide so rest assured)

I just felt that i really want to die and there's no hope for me before this i betrayed the LORD God again

When i know the fact that all creature in this world dislike me i eventually just turned to God and said a lot of things but then the next day i betrayed him again

Whenever i come to him i eventually betray him this made me more depressed

The fact that i only has God but if he even abandoned me i just don't know where to go anymore

This is karma just like what happened to me last 2weeks ago yet again just like how judas betrayed the LORD for temporary pleasure and so i am
Karma is unbiblical. Karma originates from Hinduism, I believe. The teachings of karma have nothing to do with a personal divine being (God), but rather an impersonal entity (god). It is solely based on works regardless of the heart of the person, which is in opposition to biblical teachings.
It is Not the same notion as you reap what you sow.
 

oyster67

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Did you know that Jesus loves you? Jesus also understands that you are helpless. That is why He went to the Cross for you. Christians do not practice absolute perfection; they practice repentance. It is Satan who is trying to get you to give up. We love you. We will pray with you that the joy of the Lord be restored within you.

John
3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.


Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
 

JPPT1974

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We all fall short of the glory of God. Due to being sinful and only God has the right to be sinless and perfect. He sent Jesus to die and rise when He was without Sin. But we were sinful and should had died. But Jesus paid it all for once and once for all. He will restore you. Just go to Him. Putting you first. Growing in Him!
 

TabinRivCA

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Hello and welcome to CC. I was in and out of sin for a while but God knows our hearts so when I had enough, He always is there as a loving Father to gather us back in His care. My son just got married in the Philippines to a beautiful gal there. Hope to see you in some of the other forums, God bless!
 

Tinkerbell725

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1 John 2:1-2


2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
 
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We have all betrayed Jesus at one time or another so please know that you're not alone in this. The good news is that God is merciful and compassionate and can restore our personal relationship with the Lord. No such thing as karma either so don't worry about such things. As far as depression is concerned there are many that suffer from that too including myself but take comfort in knowing that God wants us to have life and to have it more abundantly. Hopefully, you will find comfort, support and understanding from the members of this site. Glad to have you as part of our community. Welcome to CC.
No such thing as karma?
But what happened to me 2 weeks ago the moment i planned the things that i should because it tells me that i should do it and let wrath takes over me my emotion left i don't feel anything and it seems that i lost purpose the first time i've felt that i was like what just happened the 2nd time it happened i realized that he was telling me something but i do not know what it was then the 3rd time it happened again this time i've lost my strength on my right and left arm and i've broke my right arm due to me punching someone and been to a 2 veterinarian to fix my arm and it hurts was like flipping in pain worst than being punch and that is not karma?

i have already realized the 2nd time i planned but still continued and now i'm here

Sorry i seldom speak in english so i'm noy good in this language
 
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Karma is unbiblical. Karma originates from Hinduism, I believe. The teachings of karma have nothing to do with a personal divine being (God), but rather an impersonal entity (god). It is solely based on works regardless of the heart of the person, which is in opposition to biblical teachings.
It is Not the same notion as you reap what you sow.
Actually i didn't meant it being biblical but a part of our daily lives

Just for example you were scaring your friends and took a ghost costume after you do that you've seen an evil spirit or is it a demon isn't this considered karma?
 

blue_ladybug

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It's cause and effect. You punch someone or something, and naturally you're going to hurt your hand. Go to a doctor and get checked out. A doctor, NOT a veterinarian. THEY work only with ANIMALS. :)
 

blue_ladybug

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Your spiritual status on your profile says "unsure". So you need to start with that, and figure out whether you're Christian, or another religion.. And stop talking about karma, that's a Hindu belief.
 

Subhumanoidal

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Actually i didn't meant it being biblical but a part of our daily lives

Just for example you were scaring your friends and took a ghost costume after you do that you've seen an evil spirit or is it a demon isn't this considered karma?
No. Because you can't believe in the bible and karma, as I explained. Karma is a Hindu originated belief that requires the God of the bible to not exist in order to be true.

Also most people that use the word karma seem to misunderstand it. But simply put the concept of karma goes against the notion of the God of the bible. You can't have both because they each rely on spiritual laws that are contradictory.
Karma requires that no personal, interactive God exists and that "god" is nothing more than a cosmic mirror that reflects your works back to you and is incapable of personal connection.
Also when you hear people say things about what "the universe" has done for them, it's the same thing. Just a spiritual blob.
 

tourist

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No such thing as karma?
But what happened to me 2 weeks ago the moment i planned the things that i should because it tells me that i should do it and let wrath takes over me my emotion left i don't feel anything and it seems that i lost purpose the first time i've felt that i was like what just happened the 2nd time it happened i realized that he was telling me something but i do not know what it was then the 3rd time it happened again this time i've lost my strength on my right and left arm and i've broke my right arm due to me punching someone and been to a 2 veterinarian to fix my arm and it hurts was like flipping in pain worst than being punch and that is not karma?

i have already realized the 2nd time i planned but still continued and now i'm here

Sorry i seldom speak in english so i'm noy good in this language
There is a biblical principal that you reap what you sow but even then God is merciful and compassionate to forgive and to possibly mitigate any trial or discipline that is necessary to get you on the right spiritual track. Breaking your right arm by punching someone is on you as you should refrain from doing such a thing as it is a violent act and not in accordance with God's will on how to react to any given situation unless it was in self-defense or protecting those that you love. Things would go much better for you if you were to establish, maintain and grow in a personal relationship with the Lord. Start by saying a prayer for God to guide you and begin to read the bible. In your case, I highly recommend that you start with the book of Proverbs.
 
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It's cause and effect. You punch someone or something, and naturally you're going to hurt your hand. Go to a doctor and get checked out. A doctor, NOT a veterinarian. THEY work only with ANIMALS. :)
Actually i don't know what they are called but they massage the body of a patient but they are not a masseuse and some of them use a weird method that looks like witchcraft that is only if you seek them for other purpose and not for massage just like in ancient times they look like ancient doctors

And that's not the point here it was the feeling of emptiness after planned and let wrath takes over for 3 times in a week this never happens before
 

tourist

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It's cause and effect. You punch someone or something, and naturally you're going to hurt your hand. Go to a doctor and get checked out. A doctor, NOT a veterinarian. THEY work only with ANIMALS. :)
A veterinarian might be appropriate if you believed in reincarnation and came back as a dog or a cat.
 
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Your spiritual status on your profile says "unsure". So you need to start with that, and figure out whether you're Christian, or another religion.. And stop talking about karma, that's a Hindu belief.
I am unsure because i am a sinner and do not really follow the commandments of christ

And a true christian for me is those people who walk with christ who follow his commandments

It is written that if you love him you will keep his commandments then i don't love him since i don't keep his commandments

If i am not a christian but a believer then what am i that is why it is unsure
 

Tinkerbell725

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Actually i didn't meant it being biblical but a part of our daily lives

Just for example you were scaring your friends and took a ghost costume after you do that you've seen an evil spirit or is it a demon isn't this considered karma?
It is not karma. It is called suffering as a consequence of your own sin or the sin of others. God forgives sin but, sin always has consequences. God does'nt let anyone walk away with sin without some sort of judgement. He is a God of justice.