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Revelation 13:8 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666. If confronted with his destiny he repented and became converted. Would The Lord forgive him and assign him a new role in The Everlasting Gospel ?
 

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Revelation 13:8 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666. If confronted with his destiny he repented and became converted. Would The Lord forgive him and assign him a new role in The Everlasting Gospel ?
According to Scripture it is only those who do not love the truth and refuse to obey the Gospel who are placed under strong delusion, and take the Mark of the Beast. Therefore there is neither repentance nor salvation for these individuals.
 

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Hello @Cominghomeagain101, are you asking about the Antichrist himself, or about those who choose to take his mark?

The question is moot in either case though, isn't it :unsure:

Revelation 14
9 Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,
10 he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.
11 “And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”

Revelation 20

10 And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

~Deut
 

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Revelation 13:8 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666. If confronted with his destiny he repented and became converted. Would The Lord forgive him and assign him a new role in The Everlasting Gospel ?
A warm Christian welcome to CC, brother:)

I believe that those who miss the Rapture will still have a chance. Traditional Jews are a prime example of this. They must refuse to bow to the Beast and this will likely result in their execution.
 

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All must accept the Blood of Jesus, at any rate.
 
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According to Scripture it is only those who do not love the truth and refuse to obey the Gospel who are placed under strong delusion, and take the Mark of the Beast. Therefore there is neither repentance nor salvation for these individuals.
In the Bible from Genesis to Revelation I have found only 2 Angels who are named. Michael and Gabriel. Also I believe Satan was a created Angel. Through The Bible there are numerous characters who are not named. For example Messenger of Malachi 3 and King of Psalm 21. If a man who fears God is confronted with a fork in the road, drops on his knees and prays for guidance to either ignore The Bible or Prophesy The Everlasting Gospel from Revelation to Genesis, who is to guide him but The Holy Spirit and Church ?
 
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A warm Christian welcome to CC, brother:)

I believe that those who miss the Rapture will still have a chance. Traditional Jews are a prime example of this. They must refuse to bow to the Beast and this will likely result in their execution.
In The Bible to my knowledge there are only 2 named Angels, Michael and Gabriel. I believe Satan was also a created Angel. Throughout The Bible from Genesis to Revelation there are numerous Bible creatures and characters who have not been named. For example Messenger of Malachi 3 and King of Psalm 21. If a man who fears God reaches a fork in the road. One to move on ignoring The Bible, the other prophesying The Everlasting Gospel from Revelation to Genesis. Who is to say who should guide him from there forward but The Holy Spirit and The Church ?
 

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Revelation 13:8 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666. If confronted with his destiny he repented and became converted. Would The Lord forgive him and assign him a new role in The Everlasting Gospel ?
Perhaps this belongs in the Bible Discussion Forum rather than the New Users introduction forum?
 

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If a man who fears God reaches a fork in the road. One to move on ignoring The Bible, the other prophesying The Everlasting Gospel from Revelation to Genesis. Who is to say who should guide him from there forward but The Holy Spirit and The Church ?
I hope you two don't mind me jumping in with this question, but why would a man who truly "fears God" chose to "ignore the Bible" :unsure: Perhaps I am misunderstanding what you are asking however?

Thanks :)

~Deut
 

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Who is to say who should guide him from there forward but The Holy Spirit and The Church ?
The Lord can lead us unto deeper understanding in many ways.

Isaiah 55
55:8 For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
55:9 For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
 
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I hope you two don't mind me jumping in with this question, but why would a man who truly "fears God" chose to "ignore the Bible" :unsure: Perhaps I am misunderstanding what you are asking however?

Thanks :)

~Deut
In The Bible to my knowledge there are only 2 named Angels, Michael and Gabriel. I believe Satan was also a created Angel. Throughout The Bible from Genesis to Revelation there are numerous Bible creatures and characters who have not been named. For example Messenger of Malachi 3 and King of Psalm 21. If a man who fears God reaches a fork in the road. One to move on ignoring The Bible, the other prophesying The Everlasting Gospel from Revelation to Genesis. Who is to say who should guide him from there forward but The Holy Spirit and The Church ?
 
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The Lord can lead us unto deeper understanding in many ways.

Isaiah 55
55:8 For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
55:9 For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Thank you
 

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2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
 

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In The Bible to my knowledge there are only 2 named Angels, Michael and Gabriel. I believe Satan was also a created Angel. Throughout The Bible from Genesis to Revelation there are numerous Bible creatures and characters who have not been named. For example Messenger of Malachi 3 and King of Psalm 21. If a man who fears God reaches a fork in the road. One to move on ignoring The Bible, the other prophesying The Everlasting Gospel from Revelation to Genesis. Who is to say who should guide him from there forward but The Holy Spirit and The Church ?
Why would a man who "fears God" chose to "ignore the Bible" :unsure:

Thanks :)

~Deut
 
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I totally agree with you Deuterenomy. Therefore lets say this man after praying rebukes the devil and the role of antichrist, adopts the role of Malachi 3 and continues his private conversation with the King of Psalm 21. Signing his letters as such, Lords Messenger of Malachi 3. Would you and The The Church have a problem with that ?
 
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Hello @Cominghomeagain101, are you asking about the Antichrist himself, or about those who choose to take his mark?

The question is moot in either case though, isn't it :unsure:

Revelation 14
9 Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,
10 he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.
11 “And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”
Revelation 20
10 And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

~Deut
I totally agree with you Deuterenomy. Therefore lets say this man after praying rebukes the devil and the role of antichrist, adopts the role of Malachi 3 and continues his private conversation with the King of Psalm 21. Signing his letters as such, Lords Messenger of Malachi 3. Would you and The The Church have a problem with that ?
 

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I totally agree with you Deuterenomy. Therefore lets say this man after praying rebukes the devil and the role of antichrist, adopts the role of Malachi 3 and continues his private conversation with the King of Psalm 21. Signing his letters as such, Lords Messenger of Malachi 3. Would you and The The Church have a problem with that ?
Hello again Cominghomeagain101, yes, of course we would, because if your ~what if~ scenario actually came true, that would mean that God lied to us about the fate of the beast (or about His knowing the true fate of the beast and/or the fate of those who wear his mark). And if the latter is true (that He didn't know), that would mean that He is not omniscient, and that His claims of being so, e.g. that He knows/declares the end of all things from the beginning (Isaiah 46:9b-10) were also lies/fabrications as well :eek:

All of this would also mean that NOTHING in the Bible could be counted on/trusted as something that is true, or as something that will come to pass (which would include all of God's many statements and promises to us about our salvation and eternal life).

~Duet
 
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Hello again Cominghomeagain101, yes, of course we would, because if your ~what if~ scenario actually came true, that would mean that God lied to us about the fate of the beast (or about His knowing the true fate of the beast and/or the fate of those who wear his mark). And if the latter is true (that He didn't know), that would mean that He is not omniscient, and that His claims of being so, e.g. that He knows/declares the end of all things from the beginning (Isaiah 46:9b-10) were also lies/fabrications as well :eek:

All of this would also mean that NOTHING in the Bible could be counted on/trusted as something that is true, or as something that will come to pass (which would include all of God's many statements and promises to us about our salvation and eternal life).

~Duet
I trully enjoy chatting with you Deuterenomy. I remember reading somewhere in the Bible, but don't have the verses right now. That The Lord comes back to a Glorious Church were all believers walk with Bibles in hand, with their feet on the ground, prophesying while looking up at the clouds. The earth is actually reaped by the last generation that is alive and well ! None of us, neither you or me can explain The Lords Revelation to anyone clearly. That is only up to The Lord. Never the less. The Lord reveals himself to whom he wills in preparation of His coming. In the time of Christ was John The Baptist. In The Last Days. is up to The Messenger of Malachi 3 and The King of Psalm 21. who I may ad have been having Biblical dialog since 1994. The Bible never changed. Stays the same from generation to generation, planets to planets. The Word of God is relevant from Revelation to Genesis, to Neil Armstrong, Buz Aldrin. On Earth as much as The Moon, Mars or where ever Trump' s Space Force take the future generations. Would you agree ?