Have you heard the gosel lately.

[Heaven_Bound]

found one

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That is Awesome and Thank you!

 

[Heaven_Bound]

I think that it may be a small goose.

I think you could be right

 

[Jesusfollower]

The words of Jesus Christ is not for us.

Rom 15:8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:
Christ came for Israel. They refused to believe he was the Messiah. So because of their unbelief, salvation has come to Gentiles.

Rom 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
Rom 11:12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
Rom 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

God has made Paul and apostle.
Col 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timotheus our brother,

Rom 15:16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.

You need to believe the gospel given to Paul.

1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Brother, you are in error to say Christ words are not for us. Jesus Christ son of GOD came to preach to all repentance and the coming kingdom of GOD, also to uphold the commandments and so much more. Who are the Israelites? Many of the tribes of Israel were lost, disseminated to Europe, America and other countries. You could be a descendant of Israelites and not know it . Do we not all originate from GOD? By saying that the words of Christ are not for us, you put paul before GOD .

I pray that the lord opens your heart, and your understanding.

Bless,

JF

 

[Hann57]

Brother, you are in error to say Christ words are not for us. Jesus Christ son of GOD came to preach to all repentance and the coming kingdom of GOD, also to uphold the commandments and so much more. Who are the Israelites? Many of the tribes of Israel were lost, disseminated to Europe, America and other countries. You could be a descendant of Israelites and not know it . Do we not all originate from GOD? By saying that the words of Christ are not for us, you put paul before GOD .

I pray that the lord opens your heart, and your understanding.

Bless,

JF

What gospel are you trusting for your salvation ?

 

[Blain]

I think it is important to understand the difference in what reason and purpose Jesus preached and Paul preached. Jesus came to establish the new covanent and kingdom and the audience was for the jews then for the gentiles. Paul was to stand on the new covanent and preach the gospel of Jesus Christ to the church in general both jews and gentiles

 

[tourist]

Now you have heard the gospel when you read it. Its up to you what to do with it.

I have known about the gospel of salvation leading me to be born-again since 1969. I'm all set on this. I imagine, most, if not all, on this thread have heard the gospel and have responded in a positive way leading to salvation. I was responding to a member who was wondering what a 'gosel' was as stated in the name of the thread.

 

[Hann57]

I think you could be right

It is not about me been right. Its about the scriptures the knowledge of God to read, so we can know we have eternal life through believing Paul's gospel. 1 Corinthians 15: 3,4.

 

[tourist]

found one

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That does indeed look like a gosel.

 

[Hann57]

I have known about the gospel of salvation leading me to be born-again since 1969. I'm all set on this. I imagine, most, if not all, on this thread have heard the gospel and have responded in a positive way leading to salvation. I was responding to a member who was wondering what a 'gosel' was as stated in the name of the thread.

If you have believed the gospel Paul recieved from Christ you are saved. But you cannot be born again. That was for Israel.

 

[tourist]

I believe I’d say “ wild goose “ if we’re naming Paul’s different gospel

That about sums it up.

 

[tourist]

If you have believed the gospel Paul recieved from Christ you are saved. But you cannot be born again. That was for Israel.

Jesus told Nicodemus that unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. I will go with what Jesus says rather than what you seem to believe. Jesus said 'one' and no mention of Israel. What you are propagating is in error and misleading in this most important spiritual principal.

 

[Blain]

Jesus told Nicodemus that unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. I will go with what Jesus says rather than what you seem to believe. Jesus said 'one' and no mention of Israel. What you are propagating is in error and misleading in this most important spiritual principal.

Well said.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

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Jesus told Nicodemus that unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. I will go with what Jesus says rather than what you seem to believe. Jesus said 'one' and no mention of Israel. What you are propagating is in error and misleading in this most important spiritual principal.

Amen that’s what happens when we start our belief off with “ what Jesus said isn’t for Christians “

There’s nothing left at that point but fantasy and error

 

[Blain]

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Amen that’s what happens when we start our belief off with “ what Jesus said isn’t for Christians “

There’s nothing left at that point but fantasy and error

I fon't know where he got his understanding if you can call it that or if he was just taught this way but yes he is in error on a lot of things the problem is he is unable to see it.

His fixation on the gospel and what it is and by which we are saved by is turning into an obsession he never posts about anything else and refuses to take council from anyone else either. We should pray for him that his eyes might be opened also that he might be saved because his bio says he is not Christian.

 

[tourist]

Well said.

Thank you, my good man.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I fon't know where he got his understanding if you can call it that or if he was just taught this way but yes he is in error on a lot of things the problem is he is unable to see it.

His fixation on the gospel and what it is and by which we are saved by is turning into an obsession he never posts about anything else and refuses to take council from anyone else either. We should pray for him that his eyes might be opened also that he might be saved because his bio says he is not Christian.

it’s a relatively popular false teaching found in modern grace books that have to find a reason jesus word doesn’t apply, in order To pass thier doctrine off as the real truth.

“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭2:1‬ ‭-2

“I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

…Only Luke is with me. Take Mark, and bring him with thee: for he is profitable to me for the ministry.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭4:1-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

( Paul's farewell is a worthy read the whole chapter there ) embracing both luke and mark still Learning from them but It’s like they don’t hear what Paul is saying because they “ divide the word of truth “ out of thier belief and call it “the other gospel That will save you “

God said “don’t eat the fruit you will die for sure “

“And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:” ( then he “explained it all “
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭3:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He changed thier mind from what God said is true , that’s all it takes to lead us astray. And the opposite is all it takes to save us just like satans idea led them to death then , now false doctrine leads people astray from christ way that leads to life.

That was the first false teaching in Eden and it’s effect and consequence is shown . if we now begin to learn from and believe Jesus the living word of God , we’re gonna know the truth but is we start our saying “ Jesus isn’t the way to be saved his words don’t apply “ we could never know truth

“Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.”
‭‭John‬ ‭18:37‬ ‭KJV‬‬

but like Adam and Eve also we’re told that there’s going to be a lot of erroneous doctrine that leads people away like a fish lure it looks so good on the surface “ sounds right to me if we think about the reasoning long enough “if we are willing to grab it but thiers a barbed hook inside the roof of our mouth and another in the tounge That sets us against the truth that’s always meant to save us.

just like his first command in Eden was meant for their safety not their death.
we should always try to discuss the actual Gospel and learn from what Jesus said of course but if the serpent can teach us not to do that then we’re not going to have this

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He’s still trying to get us to disbelieve what God said about eternal life and death. so we would remain in death d hellfire that’s how he’s trying to destroy us. He already ruined our body of flesh because we lost faith and followed a lie .

now he wants our spirit and eternal
Life because he’s headed for the flames himself trying to bring man with him to inspire mercy from God. But we’ve all
Been warned of God.

it’s basically Propaganda from hell in the latter times lol but we have the truth !!

 

[Blain]

it’s a relatively popular false teaching found in modern grace books that have to find a reason jesus word doesn’t apply, in order To pass thier doctrine off as the real truth.

“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭2:1‬ ‭-2

“I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

…Only Luke is with me. Take Mark, and bring him with thee: for he is profitable to me for the ministry.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭4:1-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

( Paul's farewell is a worthy read the whole chapter there ) embracing both luke and mark still Learning from them but It’s like they don’t hear what Paul is saying because they “ divide the word of truth “ out of thier belief and call it “the other gospel That will save you “

God said “don’t eat the fruit you will die for sure “

“And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:” ( then he “explained it all “
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭3:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He changed thier mind from what God said is true , that’s all it takes to lead us astray. And the opposite is all it takes to save us just like satans idea led them to death then , now false doctrine leads people astray from christ way that leads to life.

That was the first false teaching in Eden and it’s effect and consequence is shown . if we now begin to learn from and believe Jesus the living word of God , we’re gonna know the truth but is we start our saying “ Jesus isn’t the way to be saved his words don’t apply “ we could never know truth

“Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.”
‭‭John‬ ‭18:37‬ ‭KJV‬‬

but like Adam and Eve also we’re told that there’s going to be a lot of erroneous doctrine that leads people away like a fish lure it looks so good on the surface “ sounds right to me if we think about the reasoning long enough “if we are willing to grab it but thiers a barbed hook inside the roof of our mouth and another in the tounge That sets us against the truth that’s always meant to save us.

just like his first command in Eden was meant for their safety not their death.
we should always try to discuss the actual Gospel and learn from what Jesus said of course but if the serpent can teach us not to do that then we’re not going to have this

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He’s still trying to get us to disbelieve what God said about eternal life and death. so we would remain in death d hellfire that’s how he’s trying to destroy us. He already ruined our body of flesh because we lost faith and followed a lie .

now he wants our spirit and eternal
Life because he’s headed for the flames himself trying to bring man with him to inspire mercy from God. But we’ve all
Been warned of God.

it’s basically Propaganda from hell in the latter times lol but we have the truth !!

What kind of people teach this like what denimonation are they? I am just curious as to what he falls into because he isn't Christian.

 

[SomeDisciple]

What kind of people teach this like what denimonation are they? I am just curious as to what he falls into because he isn't Christian.

Dr. Gene Kim and his KJV only "real bible believers". He's very good at conveying his ideas, and at theory crafting... but unfortunately he is stuck on this idea that the Jewish apostles' message was only for the nation of Israel (even though they never said that)- and that Paul had a new gospel for the gentiles that was separate from what the Jews had to do.

His ideas are pretty logical, and developed; He doesn't understand James though. He seems to think the story of Abraham's faith can mean one thing to the Jews, and something completely different to the gentiles. He doesn't make the connection between faith and works- how faith works in the believer to produce fruits. He thinks James was written specifically to Jews that will be in the tribulation... kind of a mess.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPCDmYOJJ08h-pG8J2iMDjA

 

[SomeDisciple]

Actually, he laughs at the fact that faith produces works... like it's stupid.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

What kind of people teach this like what denimonation are they? I am just curious as to what he falls into because he isn't Christian.

I don’t think it is a denomination try googling “Paul Ellis teachings “ or “Joseph prince teachings “ that’s two of the main ones you have to look into what they are actually saying