Halloween.

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Rehoboth16 said:
Do you like celebrating Halloween? If so why? If not, why not? What does it mean to you? People are always saying they just like to go out for the candy but to me it's like "dining with the devil," my opinion. What's your's? I would love to hear it!!
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hey yes. i do think what you are thinking. that is sooo right. come on ppl. DEVILS NIGHT. ok. Jesus made the day but the devil turned it into something else. goodness. no one likes halloween! well there is a couple. but i think it is dining out with the devil.. good thread girl!!
 
amy4christ said:
hey yes. i do think what you are thinking. that is sooo right. come on ppl. DEVILS NIGHT. ok. Jesus made the day but the devil turned it into something else. goodness. no one likes halloween! well there is a couple. but i think it is dining out with the devil.. good thread girl!!
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What do you think the devil turned it into? And do you not think that Halloween's Christian heritage can be celebrated?
 
See a lot of people justify a holliday by saying, "well you shouldn't even celebrate Christmas then because that has pagon origins." Well if you worship santa like most then ya it is still pagon, but if you use it to show appreciation for what Christ has done then you are just replacing it with good.

Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.Romans 12:21

So maybe if you dressed up like Bible charaters on Halloween and went around witnessing.

I just feel like, why would we want to dress up like demons when thay are the ones trying to destroy us.
 
amy4christ said:
hey yes. i do think what you are thinking. that is sooo right. come on ppl. DEVILS NIGHT. ok. Jesus made the day but the devil turned it into something else. goodness. no one likes halloween! well there is a couple. but i think it is dining out with the devil.. good thread girl!!
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Thank you. It's just a topic that my family and I always disscuss so I decided, hey, why not make a thread and then find out other people's opinions on it.
 
I want to go trick or treating with a friend this year, (my mom never let me trick or treat. Ever.) but my mom says "you're too old to go trick or treating"

Oh my gosh, no I'm NOT! >:[

Then she said "I don't want you & a friend wandering around at night by yourselves. If it was you and 6 other girls, that's different, but there are creeps that snatch kids on halloween."

and I was like "Dude, I walk to the bus stop for half a mile every day at 6 AM in the morning."

she didnt have an answer for that, she just said "You're not going."
 
Rehoboth16 said:
I remember in grade 7 & 8, whenever it was around Halloween the kindergarten teachers would bring thier little students to every class to show off thier costumes in a parade. I saw masks with little pumps that when they were squeazed blood would run down the mask..eww, skeletons, witches e.t.c. There is a halloween dance being planned in myschool right now and my friends are trying to get me to go!! I keep trying to tell them that I'm not going to go but they won't listen. Have you ever felt like you're the only one not doing something that everyone else is doing? I know i'm standing with God when it comes to this holiday but i'm only human. Of course i'm not going to fall that easily and start celebrating it but I wish I didn't feel so down about it!!
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I'm very proud of you. Yes, for the Halloween thing but more proud of you for sticking to your faith while under peer pressure. I can personally tell you that it is hard. I stood up for what I believed was right and ended up being bullied in high school. I defended myself too and as a result, didn't have any friends. Now I have close friends that don't treat me like that and though they are not Christian, I hope they will see great changes in me as I grow in Jesus. I guess my patience paid off? :)

Rehoboth16 said:
If you guys can pray for my brother, that would be greatly appreciated. He loves to watch shows with wizards and spells. I try hard to get him to stop but i'm only human and he doesn't seem to respect the fact that i'm two years older then him so that isn't really working out very well. He's not into Halloween though which is good cause our family was raised not to celebrate it anyways. Thanks guys.....Love ya!!
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So was I. I was a huge Harry Potter fan. Loved the magical and fantastical but I stopped recently. I think it will take a personal conviction before a person will make decisions like this. I can tell you that sometimes it's very tempting to go back to Season 2 of Merlin on BBC! ;)
 
I am a harry potter fan, but I see no link with the devil. It is purely a fictional book with magic. I hear all this crap from pastors and such saying how it is brainwashing our kids, well there are the few kids who take it to far, but for the most part people just read them for enjoyment. I personally loved the whole series and will go watch the final movies.
 
One thing about Halloween Is it is bad to celebrate it. If you want to know what the True Christian holiday is on the 31st it is called reformation day. No it is not getting candy and dressing up it is when Martin Luther posted his 95 thesis on the Catholic church door in Wittenburg in Germany. I say if you are a true Christian Halloween shouldnt be celebrated it is a pagan Holiday.

The History of Halloween News Report
October is tricky—a seasonal enigma. You may be wearing a short-sleeved shirt one minute only to have the wind creep up at gale-force speed, sending you running for cover toward the nearest fleece-lined parka. Going for a brisk walk could require bringing a sweater and, most likely, by the end of the walk, you’ve become a teaming mass of sweat for which wearing a sweater might be incongruous. Familiar trees lose their familiarity and begin to usurp their verdant greenery for some finer shades of red or gold. And let’s not forget the daylight savings time tradition where we set the clocks back an hour. These are some of the highlights of the first full autumnal month—October. But the most celebrated thing in October is what happens on the last day: the hallowed Halloween. The celebration’s early beginnings are a bit cloudy and there are several sources of its significance; however, most historians agree that it originated among the Celts.

Many European cultural traditions hold that Halloween is one of the times of the year where spirits can make contact with the physical world. Today, in the western culture, many of the celebration’s features are still practiced: wearing costumes, carving pumpkins, lighting bonfires and trick-or-treating. These practices originally began in an effort to ward off evil spirits, which may have caused havoc, and the costumes were donned in an attempt to mimic or placate them, or so the legend goes. The celebration continued throughout the centuries and did not become a holiday in the U.S. until the 19th century nor commercialized until the 20th, chiefly because of the Puritan influence, according to historians.

While Halloween has become a fixture in the U.S. and around the world, some believe that its superstitious attributes have all but abated in favor of just a night of fun for children. But the debate continues.

It may be legend or it may be fact, but in either case, it supposedly began with the Celts’ celebration during a festival, named after a pagan lord of the dead. The Celts—fearing the so-called deity—a sun god, perhaps—offered gifts to ameliorate the god’s powers. Apparently, they thought they were appeasing or serving God in this way. Really? I thought the Bible says that perfect love casts out all fear. The days were fraught with fear and supernatural happenings along with sacrifices and other pagan rituals. Later on when the Romans took over, the celebration embraced other forms of worshipping the dead and eventually the holiday took the form of honoring dead saints and later martyrs. The name was changed to All Saint’s Day and eventually All Souls’ Day.


When the tradition came to America, including the honoring of the dead and dressing up as ghouls and ghosts while playing mischievous pranks, today’s Halloween is a direct derivative of this pagan revelry. In light of this tradition, it begs the question: Is this something you really want to pass onto your children or grandchildren?

You may say what’s wrong with having a little frivolity on the last day of October? It’s just a harmless night of fun. What harm can come from dressing up in spooky costumes and solicit for candy? It’s an innocent tradition. But is it really? Look a little closer.

Halloween stems from worshipping a sun god instead of the real one. Bonfires were lit to protect against evil spirits instead of trusting the Almighty One. Halloween is steeped in superstitious beliefs based on false truths — not to mention mischief, which always end up the day before the holiday. Why is that?

Even after biblical truths and insights are brought to light — among them, the directive from God “not to have any other gods before me,” it seems there will still be those who continue to believe that the celebrating of Halloween is just an innocuous past time for children.

With every real and authentic article, there is a counterfeit. For Christmas, it’s Santa Claus who takes Jesus’ place. At Easter, it’s the bunny which steals the attention from Jesus—again. At Halloween, it’s a little more subtle, but the counterfeit is there: worshipping the dead, appeasing spirits and emulating the creatures who define evil and darkness. Hasn’t the 21st century brought us further than this?

Halloween might be associated with candy, but it’s a white-washed tradition that isn’t at all sweet.

This Should make you think. If not you should be worried(those of you who still want to celebrate)
 
Cako53 said:
I am a harry potter fan, but I see no link with the devil. It is purely a fictional book with magic. I hear all this crap from pastors and such saying how it is brainwashing our kids, well there are the few kids who take it to far, but for the most part people just read them for enjoyment. I personally loved the whole series and will go watch the final movies.
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As I said, it would probably take a personal conviction to make these decisions. :)
 
I like spending Halloween at the church with my youth group. Every year we have a ton of games and candy for the kids in the community and we always end up sharing Jesus w/ them and their parents. I dont think God would have a problem with that, haha =) This year we're having a HUGE bonfire at our youth directors house. Their house gets rolled every year on Halloween; this year whoever tries will be met with paintballs!!!!! haha!
 
taylor_11 said:
I like spending Halloween at the church with my youth group. Every year we have a ton of games and candy for the kids in the community and we always end up sharing Jesus w/ them and their parents. I dont think God would have a problem with that, haha =) This year we're having a HUGE bonfire at our youth directors house. Their house gets rolled every year on Halloween; this year whoever tries will be met with paintballs!!!!! haha!
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Your going to shoot them with paintballs? :O AWESOME! Don't freeze them!!! That would be a law suit on your hands, they hurt A LOT when frozen.
 
Cako53 said:
Your going to shoot them with paintballs? :O AWESOME! Don't freeze them!!! That would be a law suit on your hands, they hurt A LOT when frozen.
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Oh, believe me, I know ! haha ! I got shot in the throat w/ a frozen paintball a couple years ago....had to stay up all night trying to get the swelling down. =0) it hurt. lol
 
WOW! the throat? :O I though the thigh was bad. You are strong! lol.
 
I printed off a Glenn Beck mask for Halloween. We'll see how that goes.
 
I find it funny that many of you feel you can't have a good harmless time without being corrupted in some fantastical way. Who cares what the day means to other cultures around the world, do you think God isn't powerful or insightful enough to know your harmless intentions of dressing up for fun and getting free candy, or hanging out with good friends, and that you are not actually taking part in any blasphemous practices with your body, mind, or heart?

If you feel you can't celebrate Halloween due to it's ancient pagan origins that look almost nothing like that today then I'd expect that you cannot celebrate New Years Eve either as it is just as pagan a practice.
 
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Khorib2 said:
do you think God isn't powerful or insightful enough to know your harmless intentions of dressing up for fun and getting free candy, or hanging out with good friends, and that you are not actually taking part in any blasphemous practices with your body, mind, or heart?
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The problem really isn't that. It's...

Argument 1: some people will draw verses from the Bible where God says he condemns witchcraft, pagan rituals, or the like. They will argue that halloween embodies all of these things and by participating, you are inadvertently supporting those beliefs/practices.

Argument 2: some people will draw verses from the Bible where we are supposed to treat our bodies as temples unto God. So partaking in halloween can in a way perverse this holy "temple" that our bodies have become when became born again.

Argument 3: some people will draw verses where we are not supposed to act in a manner that may suggest an un-Christ-like nature. That means if we participate in the trick-or-treating and costume dressing, though our hearts may be pure in the participation, we are giving the world a different idea because the world sees halloween as what it is - a day of "celebrating" or enjoying all the occult-like things. Things such as glorifying skeletons, witches, monsters, ghosts, the devil himself, etc. So in a way, we are "participating" in the glorifying of the occult.

If you compare the 3 against-halloween arguments, you'll notice that they all have primary elements of argument 3 which would then cover the controversies for Christmas and Easter.

Proponents for halloween have these arguments:

Argument 1: some people will draw verses where it shows that as long as thier hearts are pure and not celebrating or worshipping the occult, then it's ok. It's just fun and games.

Argument 2: some people will draw verses to support their view that it's an opportunity to mingle into the culture so that we may be able to entice/bring more non-believers into the Shepherd's fold - that we should do everything we can to bring more lost sheep to Jesus.

Argument 3: some people will draw verses to support their view that the original traditions and pagan practices have been watered down so that halloween isn't even about the occult anymore and therefore it's ok to participate.

So who's right? Of course, none of us can really say for sure. But naturally, since we're all human, we want to convince the other party that they're wrong. The best thing to do if you're not sure is to pray about it. Even if you're sure, pray about it and see where the Holy Spirit moves you. None of us know God's plans so while it may not be ok for some people, it could be ok for others. Look at Hosea - God commanded him to marry a prostitute because He had a plan! Do you think Hosea would've married a prostitute if he had a say in the matter? In those days, I highly doubt it. But you see, though it was ok for Hosea to marry a prostitute, that doesn't mean it would've been ok for all the other people to do the same. So, whatever you decide, just keep an open mind to the Holy Spirit. It won't lead you wrong, that's for sure.
 
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