Guns Owners Can Sue?

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wwjd_kilden

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proves some people love guns more than people
 
Desdichado

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wwjd_kilden said:
proves some people love guns more than people
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Contrary to popular belief, many of the gun owners (not all) who would seek to dismantle gun free zones do so out of a love for people and concern for their safety.
 
notuptome

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Citizens own guns subjects do not.

For the cause of Christ
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?????? That's a little silly. Have you disarmed your police department?
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As a matter of fact, yes. The police over here don't carry guns. For a couple of years now they've been armed, but that is not supposed to be permanently.
 
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It may surprise some of you, but regardless of whether you are in a gun free area or not, if the owner fails to provide proper security, and you are shot, you can sue, and probably win. All you have to do is show that the owner's security policy contributed to your death or injury.
 
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jennymae said:
As a matter of fact, yes. The police over here don't carry guns. For a couple of years now they've been armed, but that is not supposed to be permanently.
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And you don't find that interesting.... that they have moved TOWARD embracing carrying arms instead of the "being disarmed" working successfully, and producing even more disarming?
 
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Billyd said:
It may surprise some of you, but regardless of whether you are in a gun free area or not, if the owner fails to provide proper security, and you are shot, you can sue, and probably win. All you have to do is show that the owner's security policy contributed to your death or injury.
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The last time I died, they wouldn't listen to my testimony. LOL
 
hornetguy

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I don't know if it's true, or not, but I can't see it ever being successfully done...

Unless you are compelled to enter that establishment, I am not sure you would be able to win a lawsuit against them.

It has even been established in court that even the local police department is not liable for a citizen's injury or death at the hands of criminals. It was judged that the police are not responsible for YOUR safety, simply the safety of the public in general.

It would be nice if it were true, though. It would be a good counterpoint to people suing gun manufacturers for the death of someone at the hand of another person using a gun.
 
Desdichado

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hornetguy said:
I don't know if it's true, or not, but I can't see it ever being successfully done...

Unless you are compelled to enter that establishment, I am not sure you would be able to win a lawsuit against them.

It has even been established in court that even the local police department is not liable for a citizen's injury or death at the hands of criminals. It was judged that the police are not responsible for YOUR safety, simply the safety of the public in general.

It would be nice if it were true, though. It would be a good counterpoint to people suing gun manufacturers for the death of someone at the hand of another person using a gun.
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It would be an extremely hard case to prove.
 
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And you don't find that interesting.... that they have moved TOWARD embracing carrying arms instead of the "being disarmed" working successfully, and producing even more disarming?
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I just gave you the facts. I did not offer my opinion:p. Post #2 wasn't mine:D.
 
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I wonder how many actually read the Article?

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If those citizens get injured because they were stripped of their Second Amendment rights, the new law – which goes into effect Friday – allows gun owners to sue the person who set up the “gun free zone.”
Bearing Arms puts it in layman’s terms: Any permit holder injured as a result of being stripped of their right to self-defense, and their handgun, in a posted gun-free zone can file a lawsuit within two years of the event as long as they meet the following requirements:

  • were authorized to carry a gun at the time of the incident
  • prohibited from carrying a firearm because of a gun-free sign
  • the property owner was not required to be posted by state or federal law and posted by choice
So if a grocery store in Tennessee banned guns on its property and a robber, or a bear, or a rabid mongoose barged in and killed or injured someone who has a carry permit but were prohibited from carrying his or her gun, they could sue the grocery store owner for damages.

It is clear that this Law is only addressing places where the owner of the establishment determined "on their own, and not by Law" to make their place a "gun free zone." This is not the same as "gun free zones" such as Banks, Schools, Court Houses and such that are established by Federal Law.

The heart of the Law is that under normal circumstances any citizen licensed to carry a firearm and is prohibited from doing so by a business owner, can sue based on certain circumstances. This actually seems quite logical.
 
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Billyd said:
It may surprise some of you, but regardless of whether you are in a gun free area or not, if the owner fails to provide proper security, and you are shot, you can sue, and probably win. All you have to do is show that the owner's security policy contributed to your death or injury.
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Next time I get killed by a terrorist I'm definitely going to sue.
 
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