Have there been people who have lived and died and never heard the gospel? How will God deal with them?
Great End-Time Revival?
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It’s not possible for God to be unjust.
Acts 17:31 KJV
Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
[2] By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
[3] For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
[4] And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
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Not sure why the gifts and how the sweet holy Spirit move get tied to Pentecostals and Charismatics. There are so many stories one can read say just from Baptists who we/I know do not (allot of them) walk in the gifts and never speak in tongues blah blah blah. Doubt will do one thing and that is you will never see it nor experience it. He will not go against your will.
Do we truly understand we do not control the sweet holy Spirit or God or people of God? Even here man is still trying to tell God what God "really" does and does not do. They talk about feelings yet its feelings that define what revival is. Its based on what you personally believe. Strange fire was talked about once I think. A book from a very wise God fearing believer.. great man of God just does not believe in the gifts and God never has went against his will. Others wrote books in rebuttal of that book. Not sure why one is wrong and one is right other then we base truth on how we personally believe.
Like Revival something I have not truly ever studied. Its hard to go on...well leaving out everything you personally believe seek pray ask Him why we don't see so much say revivals. You will find its not because GOD doesn't want to for He does always yet... Its His mercy. Think who man is saved or not and now who God is. Put those two together...something has to be judged right then right now. We have no idea how much He loves us. Think there is never ever one moment for a bad thought or a tiny white lie ever in His presence.
Ask Him things like "why does it seem as if you do not like me or your mad or I did something wrong. Why don't you talk to me". Fact what you will hear is "I have always been trying". More then you have ever asked. Just read here ..its in this thread can you see it? Two people died in Acts they were believers. We wonder why that stopped. Back then they were all one body. Read OT how God treated just israel. Today we are so divided so much confusion. ...sorry
So my brother I have no verse for this end time revival. Hey I am for ANTYHING from God. It does no bother me how hmm haha. I'm thinking about kids. We know kids can be very mean and Children of God are no different. So when the sweet holy spirit moves and what other "kids" that belong to a GOD...what they want to do for the God they serve believe in I don't care. Some really get carried away others do nothing just stand there like they are lifeless. Its what it "looks" like yet no different then those bouncing around or running. Get over it some are still babies in Christ and don't know better. Get over the fact they never will answer to you nor care if you like it or not.. they do it for HIM and if HE thinks its wrong have faith God is really that good and will in some way tell them WHEN they listen.
Personal
"Lifeless.. reminded when my baby he was like 4 feel I picked him up (wow this was 30y ago and hurts just as much) I pick him up eyes roll back and just goes dead. This very cold feeling hits my head and everything just went very blurry.. it a Target store. God? I never gave Him a thought.. just fear and screamed "someone help my baby". Ambulance came my wife front seat.. nothing lifeless you would think in that moment she would be crying none stop but lifeless. Yet so far from the truth. Rest is.. the Ambulance door opens says "hes not responding to anything". Again wow can't stop crying.. have not thought about this for a while. So I turn and say "Father I will never blame you". Door opens and that guy was very very happy yet my wife still lifeless. Took them in a helicopter and I get there at the hospital haha to hear waaaaaay down the hall this baby screaming "DAAAAADDDDDY". Part of my life never share I had to be mom and dad.. .I know the bond a mother gets.. I got it. Not what I wanted but.."
Do we truly understand we do not control the sweet holy Spirit or God or people of God? Even here man is still trying to tell God what God "really" does and does not do. They talk about feelings yet its feelings that define what revival is. Its based on what you personally believe. Strange fire was talked about once I think. A book from a very wise God fearing believer.. great man of God just does not believe in the gifts and God never has went against his will. Others wrote books in rebuttal of that book. Not sure why one is wrong and one is right other then we base truth on how we personally believe.
Like Revival something I have not truly ever studied. Its hard to go on...well leaving out everything you personally believe seek pray ask Him why we don't see so much say revivals. You will find its not because GOD doesn't want to for He does always yet... Its His mercy. Think who man is saved or not and now who God is. Put those two together...something has to be judged right then right now. We have no idea how much He loves us. Think there is never ever one moment for a bad thought or a tiny white lie ever in His presence.
Ask Him things like "why does it seem as if you do not like me or your mad or I did something wrong. Why don't you talk to me". Fact what you will hear is "I have always been trying". More then you have ever asked. Just read here ..its in this thread can you see it? Two people died in Acts they were believers. We wonder why that stopped. Back then they were all one body. Read OT how God treated just israel. Today we are so divided so much confusion. ...sorry
So my brother I have no verse for this end time revival. Hey I am for ANTYHING from God. It does no bother me how hmm haha. I'm thinking about kids. We know kids can be very mean and Children of God are no different. So when the sweet holy spirit moves and what other "kids" that belong to a GOD...what they want to do for the God they serve believe in I don't care. Some really get carried away others do nothing just stand there like they are lifeless. Its what it "looks" like yet no different then those bouncing around or running. Get over it some are still babies in Christ and don't know better. Get over the fact they never will answer to you nor care if you like it or not.. they do it for HIM and if HE thinks its wrong have faith God is really that good and will in some way tell them WHEN they listen.
Personal
"Lifeless.. reminded when my baby he was like 4 feel I picked him up (wow this was 30y ago and hurts just as much) I pick him up eyes roll back and just goes dead. This very cold feeling hits my head and everything just went very blurry.. it a Target store. God? I never gave Him a thought.. just fear and screamed "someone help my baby". Ambulance came my wife front seat.. nothing lifeless you would think in that moment she would be crying none stop but lifeless. Yet so far from the truth. Rest is.. the Ambulance door opens says "hes not responding to anything". Again wow can't stop crying.. have not thought about this for a while. So I turn and say "Father I will never blame you". Door opens and that guy was very very happy yet my wife still lifeless. Took them in a helicopter and I get there at the hospital haha to hear waaaaaay down the hall this baby screaming "DAAAAADDDDDY". Part of my life never share I had to be mom and dad.. .I know the bond a mother gets.. I got it. Not what I wanted but.."
Paul states that this gospel has been preached to all the world, to all nations, and to every creature under heaven.
Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
Colossians 1:5 For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel;
6 Which is come unto you, as it is in all the world; and bringeth forth fruit, as it doth also in you, since the day ye heard of it, and knew the grace of God in truth:
23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
You still haven't answered the question of what God will do with those who never heard the gospel. What does He do with them?
Great End-Time Revival?
Great End-Time falling away and destruction. The only revival I see is that of the Jewish remnant at the end of the Tribulation Period.
Great End-Time falling away and destruction. The only revival I see is that of the Jewish remnant at the end of the Tribulation Period.
You know I originally was not sure about this revival spoken of especially in the last few years where it is becoming more and more hyped and I actually stayed away from things like that.
But things are different now, there seems to be a line to cross in which a step is required to enter into the supernatual realm of God and that is when he really opens up to you.
And you know He has shown and spoken of the rapture he has shown and spoken of time of jacobs trouble the last days and he has also spoken and shown the great harvest and revival.
Though to be honest he hasn't been clear on how it all ties together but I was shown these people who would be in that revival and I saw them carrying the holy city behind them.
I actually don't remember where in scripture this city is spoken of but I know it must be in there I will have to look it up but the fact these people were walking into a barren land singing praise and worship to God with a loud echoing choir voice life sprouting from their feet the land they walked on became holy ground I mean im telling you guys he is up to something big
But things are different now, there seems to be a line to cross in which a step is required to enter into the supernatual realm of God and that is when he really opens up to you.
And you know He has shown and spoken of the rapture he has shown and spoken of time of jacobs trouble the last days and he has also spoken and shown the great harvest and revival.
Though to be honest he hasn't been clear on how it all ties together but I was shown these people who would be in that revival and I saw them carrying the holy city behind them.
I actually don't remember where in scripture this city is spoken of but I know it must be in there I will have to look it up but the fact these people were walking into a barren land singing praise and worship to God with a loud echoing choir voice life sprouting from their feet the land they walked on became holy ground I mean im telling you guys he is up to something big
These verses tell me that everyone will hear the gospel.
1 John 4:8 KJV
…God is love.
2 Peter 3:9 KJV
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
And plenty more …
Same here, 40 years ago, baby sooo close to death, nothing promised but to do their best. God is so merciful.
It's simple, just produce the scriptures where this is taught.
Blain, you need to repent. You say it must be in scripture because you saw it in a vision. You've gone off the rails.
Firstly what good has showing scripture ever done? But don't misunderstand I said that I knew I had read about the holy city before and that I would need to look it up. So I did and it turns out the holy city is spoken about all throughout the bible especially in the old testament this verse for instance Isiah For they call themselves of the holy city, and stay themselves upon the God of Israel; The LORD of hosts is his name.
Then it turns out in the book of Isaih it is spoken of several times God even calling it his city revelation 21 2 23 it again speaks of it but one recurring theme that seems to center around the holy city is that it is new Jerusalem it is where the righteous live and God dwells there with them.
Now I know you think I am just going on a frenzy of spirituality visions and ect. but it isn't that at all God has been very active because of what is coming and how little time we have left and if it lines up with scripture which if you did an actual search and study on the things I have said you can find them in there
You ask for scripture when you scripture would be a bland taste for you because scripture will not satisfy you since you have already set in your mind your stance on the matter.
The pharisees knew the word of God so well that they were even spoken of by Jesus himself to do as they teach to do but to not do what they do because they dont practice what they preach
The knew the word but didn't know who they word was speaking of right before them. I am not after anything less than the truth and I won't accept anything less so when God reveals something to me in a dream or vision which he said would happen in the last days I go to scripture but I don't do it to prove who it is from or that it was biblical I do it to learn more about what I was shown that is the difference there I can post scripture to prove or I can do it because I want to learn
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Mark 9:38-40 And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.
But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.
For he that is not against us is on our part.
Also daniel says...
Daniel 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
I do commend those who do not lay hands suddenly on any man, yet in this event the Lords name seems to be exalted and pointed to JESUS.
The book of acts has a beginning but no end for the time of the gentiles are not complete.
Coming together for prayer and worship is not a man made thing for no man seeks the Lord but they are called.
The out pouring of the Holy Spirit is scriptual and happens in GODs timing not ours.
It has nothing to do with spiritual frenzy. It has to do more with the fact you seem to put your visions ahead of God's word. You have a "vision," then you go looking for scripture to verify it.
Yes, I have an opinion, but I'm willing to change that opinion if clear teaching from the scriptures is presented. I'm talking only about scriptures that teach there will be a great end-time harvest, as that is the topic. People keep changing the subject and are all over the place but I'm still on the original topic.
The thing is plenty of people say they are willing to change their opinion but you don't ever see that happen much. But just because I speak of what I recieve doesn't mean I put it above above scripture I speak of them because I know it is meant for someone anyone who reads it could feel God pulling them to read about it or study it
if I read scripture about what I saw it isn't to verify it I clearly said I don't do it for that reason I do it to learn
And it isn't like you are going to find the answers right away it takes time and pndering on what you recieved and the scripture but the vision I spoke of does imply an end time harvest the entire visions premise is about a barren land where people lived there covered in trash living in a polluted dirt it was dark but when the singing of the people pulling the holy city was heard everything changed
The kingdom the holy city the harvest and the people who walked into a barren trash filled land bringing with them the city and the fact they had so much life in them that it sprouted wherever they walked this is about that revival but this one is going to be unlike any other and as I keep going I keep coming across the fact God calls it mount zion as well.
But no I have no intention of verifying anything
I know the source of it I just I have to let God help me understand it.
Hello Rod, perhaps this scripture ties in: For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. (2 Timothy 4:3). A speaker talking about a great End Times Revival or blessings will have a popular message. A speaker talking about persecution and terrible times in the last days, this message may be more biblically authentic but less popular for ears to hear. God Bless You
