Grace

[reneweddaybyday]

I have no idea where you are seeing little joy. My posts are pure bible

Disagree that your posts are "pure bible". There is some Scripture truth in some of what you have submitted, but there is also some nonScriptural information.

and my response to the many who are attacking me personally is where you might be seeing little joy as I defend myself. They come at me twisting and spinning and often taking my words out of context.

Have you really been personally attacked as opposed to questioned concerning your understanding of Scripture. People reply to you in order to understand what information you are trying to relay and responses to your posts are based on the person's own understanding of Scripture. I cannot say enough that members of this forum are very knowledgeable of Scripture and you are going to get feedback.

If your dogma cannot withstand the light of the scrutiny of Scripture, perhaps you need to check whether the information you are trying to impart is, in fact, grounded in Scripture.

People did the same to Jesus also because they could not understand him.

First of all, you are not Jesus, so please put your sanctimony back in your pocket.

Secondly, sometimes it is more difficult to get a point across in a forum on a website. It is easier to deal with issues sitting at a table with Scripture open while discussing face to face.

 

[Peterlag]

Disagree that your posts are "pure bible". There is some Scripture truth in some of what you have submitted, but there is also some nonScriptural information.





Have you really been personally attacked as opposed to questioned concerning your understanding of Scripture. People reply to you in order to understand what information you are trying to relay and responses to your posts are based on the person's own understanding of Scripture. I cannot say enough that members of this forum are very knowledgeable of Scripture and you are going to get feedback.

If your dogma cannot withstand the light of the scrutiny of Scripture, perhaps you need to check whether the information you are trying to impart is, in fact, grounded in Scripture.





First of all, you are not Jesus, so please put your sanctimony back in your pocket.

Secondly, sometimes it is more difficult to get a point across in a forum on a website. It is easier to deal with issues sitting at a table with Scripture open while discussing face to face.

Name 1 where I'm not on Scripture.

 

[Peterlag]

All I have done is point out that God does not want us ignorant concerning the record in the OT of which God indicates He does not want us ignorant.

When God tells us He does not want us ignorant concerning what is written in Scripture, your response to His prompting appears to be "no thanks, God, that Scripture "does not apply to us".

My (and other believers who have posted in this thread) response is "if God does not want me ignorant, I'm going to study to find out what He wants me to know".

And when we have the attitude of "God reveal to me what You want me to know", God does bring increase to our understanding, and we see the depths of the riches of what He reveals in His Word to us.

We do not agree.

 

[NOV25]

Grace: The divine influence upon the heart and it's reflection in the life.

For by grace are ye saved...

 

[reneweddaybyday]

Name 1 where I'm not on Scripture.

Post #81 where you state:

God could not care less about us knowing about the "baptism unto Moses in the cloud of the sea;"​

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That statement completely contradicts what God tells us in 1 Cor 10:1-2 I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea


Now who am I going to believe? you? or God?

I believe God.

 

[reneweddaybyday]

We do not agree.

Too bad. Because God tells us

Romans 15:

5 Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus:

6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

7 Wherefore receive ye one another, as Christ also received us to the glory of God.

 

[Peterlag]

Post #81 where you state:

God could not care less about us knowing about the "baptism unto Moses in the cloud of the sea;"​

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That statement completely contradicts what God tells us in 1 Cor 10:1-2 I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea


Now who am I going to believe? you? or God?

I believe God.

It's a right on statement. We are not under the law anymore and the things of the old testament have vanished away. I think there's a place in Hebrews that says that.

 

[reneweddaybyday]

It's a right on statement.

No, it is not "a right on statement" because it completely contradicts what is written in 1 Cor 10. God tells us in a section of Scripture which was written to born again believers that He does not want us ignorant of something that is written in OT. I believe what God tells me and I search out what it is that He wants me to know.

We are not under the law anymore and the things of the old testament have vanished away. I think there's a place in Hebrews that says that.

We are not discussing whether we are under the law anymore. We are discussing Scripture which was written after Day of Pentecost wherein God tells us He does not want us to be ignorant concerning Scripture which was written when the children of Israel left Egypt.

You do realize that you can read records in OT and still remain "not under the law anymore", yes?

God tells us things written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope (Rom 15:4) and all scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable (2 Tim 3:16).

Now which instruction am I going to follow? God's instruction? Or your instruction?

Do you believe that if you read OT, you will somehow no longer be able to distinguish between old covenant and new covenant? You can read OT scripture and still retain what God gives under new covenant.

 

[Peterlag]

No, it is not "a right on statement" because it completely contradicts what is written in 1 Cor 10. God tells us in a section of Scripture which was written to born again believers that He does not want us ignorant of something that is written in OT. I believe what God tells me and I search out what it is that He wants me to know.





We are not discussing whether we are under the law anymore. We are discussing Scripture which was written after Day of Pentecost wherein God tells us He does not want us to be ignorant concerning Scripture which was written when the children of Israel left Egypt.

You do realize that you can read records in OT and still remain "not under the law anymore", yes?

God tells us things written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope (Rom 15:4) and all scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable (2 Tim 3:16).

Now which instruction am I going to follow? God's instruction? Or your instruction?

Do you believe that if you read OT, you will somehow no longer be able to distinguish between old covenant and new covenant? You can read OT scripture and still retain what God gives under new covenant.

We are just not on the same page and I don't think we ever were. I'm not saying God does not want us to know about the things of the OT. What I'm saying is He does not care about Moses and his water baptism other than it was done in the OT.

 

[reneweddaybyday]

We are just not on the same page and I don't think we ever were.

Yes ... because when God says He does not want us ignorant, I actually study that which He does not want me to be ignorant of.

You, on the other hand, continue to claim that what God does not want us to be ignorant of is meaningless. That is a lie.

I'm not saying God does not want us to know about the things of the OT. What I'm saying is He does not care about Moses and his water baptism other than it was done in the OT.

So that is what God does not want us to be ignorant concerning the record, Peterlag?

All God wants us to know is that "Moses and his water baptism ... was done in the OT"???

Seriously? That is all God wants us to know???

That's what you teach your students???

Sigh ... ...

 

[Prycejosh1987]

The Lord stated way back in Leviticus that it was only through blood that there was atonement, or salvation, of the soul.

If the God who created us was a God who would let mankind die of sin for 4,000 years, until Christ came to fulfill God's promise, then we are in terrible peril and trouble. We are told God is Holy, we are to praise Him. Could we praise a God so cruel and mean he would not give a way of salvation for 4,000 years? What terrible gossip this is against our Holy God.

People mock God all the time, and try to find faults in his persona, works and teaching, I am sure that God always used somebody to preach the message of salvation. I believe that even before the book of Matthew and the book of Malachi God would have used people to preach his message, i guess they were not worth mentioning. Besides they last generation of the old testament would of had the writings of the prophets.