Gospel Confusion...

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That sounds beautiful, but it’s not what Peter actually says.
In 1 Peter 3:20-21, the water was the agent of judgment, not of salvation — it destroyed “the world of the ungodly.” Noah’s family was saved through the water only because they were in the ark, the place of safety God provided.


Water is a symbol of death. In baptism we are symbolically buried in the waters of death and raised up out of death into life through the resurrection of Christ (the true ark).
 
Water is a symbol for the Word of God, representing its cleansing, purifying, and life-giving qualities.

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Titus 3 verses 4-5
 
Water symbolizes life, the word and death depending on use. For example, the waters of the Jordan River symbolize death that Israel passed through unharmed because Joshua, a type of Christ, led the way through the parted waters.
 
Is it a sin not to be baptised in the name of Jesus only but baptised in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit?
Precious friend, great question. This is part of the denominational traditional Confusion, today,
one teaching "immersion once in Jesus' name", another "immersion thrice in the Triune GodHead name".

However, when Scripture Is prayerfully/Carefully Rightly Divided for unity, these
and all the other (9-11 sinful? ) traditions of water rituals practiced ( causing Severe
Division In The Body Of Christ [ NO Unity Of Faith? ] ) Immediately Disappear - ie:

Three BaptismS Scriptural Summary!:

LORD JESUS, please open all our hearts to ALL of Thy Truth. Amen:

Prophecy/Covenants/Law { for earthly Israel }:
►►► The Twelve Were Sent to {water} baptize! ◄◄◄The two "Main" (of 12) baptismS =

A) water, For remission of sins!:
(Matthew 3:5-6; Mark 1:4; Luke 3:3; Luke 7:29-30; John 1:31; Acts 10:37)
(Matthew 28:19; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; Acts 22:16; Ezekiel 36:25 AV)
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B) "WITH" The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders!
(Isaiah 44:3; Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8, 16:17-18; Luke 24:49;
Acts 2:17-18, 38; Acts 8:15-17; Acts 11:16 AV)

The LORD Jesus Christ As Administrator, Correct?

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

...In God's Other Program of Mystery And GRACE! For The [ Heavenly ] Body Of Christ!!:
►►► Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize (1 Corinthians 1:17 AV)! Why Not?: ◄◄◄

Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit ( Administrator? ) = God's OPERATION
Spiritually "Identifying" members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!
(Ephesians 4:5; Colossians 2:12; Galatians 3:27;
Romans 6:3-4; 1 Corinthians 12:13 AV)

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Concluding Question: God's ONE Baptism, Under Grace Today? = ONE?

Or, as some teach, we need to "add" water baptism [ from God's Other Prophetic Program ]
thus making Two baptisms Under Mystery/Grace = bad Math (which God doesn't have),
Correct, Precious friend?

Longer/Expounded study is here:

ONE [ Spiritual ] Baptism

Amen.

For further Scriptural study, Rightly Divided videos:

One Distinct Baptism is:

The One Unifying Baptism (Ephesians 4:1-6 AV) for us today, Under Grace.
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Disappearing
Confusion, eh? Thus bringing ( at Least an Initial ) "Unity of The Faith"?
cc @Truthfinder12

God's One And Only Baptism In His Dispensation Of Grace!:

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No, it is not a sin to be baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit rather than “in Jesus’ name only.”
Here’s why, biblically:
Matthew 28:19 — Jesus Himself commanded, “Go ye therefore… baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.”​
That command came directly from the risen Lord. Obeying His words can never be sinful.
When the book of Acts mentions people being baptized “in the name of Jesus,” it’s describing the authority under which baptism was done — not prescribing different words to say. The apostles were obeying Jesus’ command while acknowledging His lordship (Acts 2:38; 10:48).
So baptism “in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit” is fully biblical, and there is no sin in it — it is, in fact, the very formula Christ Himself gave.
A good few people on here believe you are not saved if you are not baptised in the name of Jesus only.

Therefore if you are baptised in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit your sins are not forgiven and you have rejected Jeuse and not saved, therefore it's a sin.
 
We need Scripture, not speculation. You said I “pick verses,” but I’m simply letting the text speak in context.

1) John 3:5 (“born of water and of the Spirit”).
Jesus rebukes Nicodemus for not knowing the OT (John 3:10). He’s pointing to Ezekiel 36:25–27—God’s promise to “sprinkle clean water” and give a “new spirit.” That’s cleansing + new heart by the Spirit, not a ritual doing the saving. Jesus immediately explains the point: “That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit” (John 3:6). The saving agent is the Spirit, received by faith (John 3:14–18).

2) Ephesians 1:13—when are we sealed?
Paul gives the conversion sequence:
Heard the word of truth… believedwere sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise.” He’s writing to believers about what happened when they believed—that doesn’t make the sequence untrue for the unsaved; it describes how anyone is saved (compare Gal 3:2, 14). The Spirit is received by hearing with faith, not by water.

3) Acts’ “patterns.”
Acts shows varied timing (2, 8, 10, 19) in a transitional era; doctrine is clarified in the epistles. Where timing differs, Scripture still teaches faith is the instrument:
  • Cornelius received the Holy Ghost while hearing and before baptism (Acts 10:43–48).
  • Paul: “Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel” (1 Cor 1:17). If water were required to be saved, that statement would be impossible.
4) “Should not perish.”
The same chapter says, “He that believeth on him is not condemned” (John 3:18) and elsewhere, “He that heareth… and believethhath everlasting life” (John 5:24). Salvation rests on Christ’s finished work, received by faith, not on completing a rite.

Bottom line: the new birth is “without hands” (Col 2:11), the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost (Titus 3:5). Baptism is an obedient sign that follows; it is not the cause of forgiveness or the Spirit.

John 3:5 points Nicodemus back to Ezekiel 36:25–27—cleansing and new heart by the Spirit, not a rite that causes salvation. Paul’s sequence is plain: having heard the gospel and believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit (Eph 1:13; cf. Gal 3:2,14). Acts shows varied timing in a transitional moment (2, 8, 10, 19), but never makes water the instrument of regeneration—indeed, Cornelius received the Spirit before baptism (Acts 10:44–48), and Paul says Christ sent him not to baptize but to preach the gospel (1 Cor 1:17). Salvation is by grace through faith; baptism is the sign, not the source (Titus 3:5; Col 2:11).

Grace and peace.

You have no crititabilty in your words unless you are speaking to those who don't know HIS word.

As I said you alter HIS word and when you do read it you don't righty divid it.

Like the word "SHALL".

DON'T TELL ME what HIS word says, let HIM tell me what it says JESUS DOESN'T NEED YOUR HELP.

When you are reading keep this in mind.

Matthew, Mark, Luke and John JESUS walked with us.

Acts the building of the church.

ALL BOOKS AFTER that are letters to churches NOT TO THE UNSAVED.

Paul was baptized in JESUS name, Paul was filled with the Holy Ghost and spoke in tongues.

Paul preaced the same gosple as the rest of JESUS disciples.

There is ONLY ONE gosple, Paul explains what happpens is baptism and when we the gifts of the Holy Ghost.

Sin sepetarts us from GOD and no will enter with it.

If you want to see, pray and ask JESUS to fill you with HIS spirit, you will speak in tongues and let HIM lead you.
 
Tell me which part of eternal life is not eternal? Jesus is my life. If you can kill him, I can lose my salvation.

Which parts of the following Scriptures do you not believe

Matt. 10:22, “All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.”

Rom. 11:22, “Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.”

1Cor. 15:2, “By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.”

Gal. 5:4, “You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.”

Col. 1:22-23, “But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation—if you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the gospel.”

2Thes. 1:4-5, “Therefore, among God’s churches we boast about your perseverance and faith in all the persecutions and trials you are enduring. All this is evidence that God’s judgment is right, and as a result you will be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are suffering.”

2Tim. 2:12, “If we endure, we will also reign with him. If we disown him, he will also disown us;”

Heb. 3:6&14, “But Christ is faithful as a son over God’s house. And we are his house, if we hold on to our courage and the hope of which we boast… We have come to share in Christ if we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first.”

Heb. 6:4-6, “It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.” This passage indicates that apostasy may be viewed as total depravity or blasphemy against the HS (MT 12:31).

Heb. 10:26-36, “If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God… So do not throw away your confidence; it will be richly rewarded. You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you will receive what he has promised.”

Jam. 1:12, “Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him.”

2Pet. 1:10-11, “Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and election sure. For if you do these things, you will never fall, and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.”

2Pet. 2:20, “If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning.”

1John 2:24-25, “See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. And this is what he promised us—even eternal life.”

Jude 21, “Keep yourselves in God’s love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life.”

Rev. 2:10, “Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the crown of life.”
 
Paul taught a very simple gospel.

1 Corinthians 2:2
For I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified.

Me winner man.

Good post.

Yes. Amen. 1 Cor. 15: 1-4 details what that means to believe in Christ in how He erased our sins.

Those who think that they can retain their salvation through personal effort are also claiming to have earned it through their personal efforts. Getting ceremonially wet doesn't do anything in relation to salvation other than to publicly declare the result of faith to the world. The work of water baptism was a word under the Kingdom Gospel dispensation.

1 Corinthians 9:17 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.

Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; [even] in him:

Ephesians 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:

Colossians 1:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;

The bandwagon filled with those who hate the term "dispensation," well, maybe they should find some other label for those with whom they disagree.

Truth has divisions:

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

That so many want to try and string together all truths without rightly dividing, they end up with nothing but confusion.

MM
 
Those were temporary regulations, not eternal moral laws per Paul and Hebrews, which I guess you ignore.

I'm ignoring because you're not making sense for me to be able understand the point you're trying to make. Go back and read what I wrote. Circumcision was not temporary to the law and was required for salvation under the OT. You said it wasn't. Address that more clearly
 
How does one lose the Spirit that indwells them? How is someone unborn from above?

Revelation 2:5
Therefore remember from where you have fallen, and repent and do the deeds you did at first;
or else I am coming to you and will remove your lampstand out of its place—unless you repent.

Are you saying that a person or a church cannot fall away from Jesus?
 
Revelation 2:5
Therefore remember from where you have fallen, and repent and do the deeds you did at first;
or else I am coming to you and will remove your lampstand out of its place—unless you repent.

Are you saying that a person or a church cannot fall away from Jesus?
Not someone who is in Christ.
 
A good few people on here believe you are not saved if you are not baptised in the name of Jesus only.

Therefore if you are baptised in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit your sins are not forgiven and you have rejected Jeuse and not saved, therefore it's a sin.

There is only one verse in the entire N.T that states the baptism formulae below.

Matthew 28:19 — Jesus Himself commanded, “Go ye therefore… baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.”

I would not base any doctrine on a single verse in the N.T that is never a wise thing to do.
 
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