GOP Presidential Nomination

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GodIsSalvation said:
Obama had political experience when he ran. Let Ben Carson go get him a state-level political job ,or if he can manage it, a US Senate seat. From there Carson could run a formidable future campaign if Obama is any indicator.
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Yeah, Community Organizer, or a 1/2 Term in Senate is all the preparation one needs to be President. Shoot, a world renowned Brain Surgeon couldn't possibly have anything to offer the peoples.............

Obama ain't fit to hold Carson's jock strap..............but, now, that's just me.............so
 
Don't confuse the regressives with facts. They'll just riot. And how dare you point out how totally unqualified the "community organizer" is to be president (not to mention how completely un-American he is). Don't you know he got a Nobel Peace Prize for being 1/2 black. That's got to be worth something.

Why you must be a "racist" and a "homophobe" to criticize Obama. I know this because Hillary said that anyone who tells the truth to a regressive is a "racist" and a "homophobe" without exception.


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p_rehbein said:
Yeah, Community Organizer, or a 1/2 Term in Senate is all the preparation one needs to be President. Shoot, a world renowned Brain Surgeon couldn't possibly have anything to offer the peoples.............

Obama ain't fit to hold Carson's jock strap..............but, now, that's just me.............so
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Oh, and just for the record there is NO way I will vote for Jeb Bush for anything period. I am a registered independent so know that I will NOT be voting for Hillary OR Jeb. They can both go pound sand. I have voted for third party candidates for president before and certainly will again when the situation warrants it.
 
AgeofKnowledge said:
I have a special place all picked out for you Nautilus. Welcome to your new home in Oymyakon, Russia. I had to give Putin back one of his Cold War era spies held at a black site since the 1980s but I think we got the better of the deal.

With temperatures below freezing from September to May, and needles known to point to -96°F, this place is lost among endless snow in the Siberian wilderness of Yakutia in a state of continuous permafrost which means it’s permanently frozen.

I know you've stated on various occasions that you drink alcohol, as one of the drugs you imbibe in, so I had them throw a case of good Russian vodka into the deal. Cheers.

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I prefer whiskey to vodka. How about I take some of that with me and Olivia Wilde. We will enjoy our life watching you run this country into the dirt.
 
Nautilus said:
I prefer whiskey to vodka. How about I take some of that with me and Olivia Wilde. We will enjoy our life watching you run this country into the dirt.
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Funny...as if it's not "run in the dirt" already.
 
Haha! Nautilus, I would never send you anywhere bad. In truth, you can live wherever you like because: I would follow the Constitution and its Bill of Rights!

Olivia Wilde? You have good taste my friend.

As for alcohol, ugh! I don't like drugs and alcohol. So I'll just leave that there. Peace.

Nautilus said:
I prefer whiskey to vodka. How about I take some of that with me and Olivia Wilde. We will enjoy our life watching you run this country into the dirt.
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Desdichado said:
Okay political junkies!

The 2016 engines are starting and I'm quite thankful that they will dominate the news for some time to come.

Now is the time for some wild speculation and I would like to submit this piece:

Jim Geraghty’s Off-Kilter 2016 Rundown | National Review Online

I would like to know what you all think about Geraghty's rankings.

For those who have not the time to read three pages, I will give ya'll the rundown.


Tier 1:

Scott Walker

Marco Rubio

Rick Perry

Bobby Jindal


Tier 2:

Jeb Bush

Mitt Romney

Chris Christie

Rand Paul

Ted Cruz

Mike Huckabee

Rick Santorum

Ben Carson


Tier 3:

Carly Fiorina

John Kasich

Mike Pence


Thoughts?
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Lol Walker, Perry, Jindal, Rubio on the top tier?
Maybe for vice-president.

More like Bush, Paul, Romney.

Bush = Christian wing
Paul = Libertarian
Romney = Centrist

Dark horses.. Santorum...Walker
 
p_rehbein said:
Yeah, Community Organizer, or a 1/2 Term in Senate is all the preparation one needs to be President. Shoot, a world renowned Brain Surgeon couldn't possibly have anything to offer the peoples.............

Obama ain't fit to hold Carson's jock strap..............but, now, that's just me.............so
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Obama was also in state-level politics as well.

So indeed, if you want another Obama-type candidate, let Carson go get himself a little political experience first.
 
GodIsSalvation said:
Obama was also in state-level politics as well.

So indeed, if you want another Obama-type candidate, let Carson go get himself a little political experience first.
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you ever look at his record in State Office? What experience? Not voting?

Political experience is the downfall of our elected officials..........the more experience they have, the more corrupt they tend to be in my opinion. Founding Fathers wanted "citizen legislators" not professional Politicians right?

"WE, THE PEOPLE"

just saying
 
p_rehbein said:
you ever look at his record in State Office? What experience? Not voting?

Political experience is the downfall of our elected officials..........the more experience they have, the more corrupt they tend to be in my opinion
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Yea, that may be the case. Nonetheless though, with exception to well known military figures, to become US President you gotta have political experience. Don't matter if you or I like it or not, that's just how US elections work.
 
GodIsSalvation said:
Obama was also in state-level politics as well.

So indeed, if you want another Obama-type candidate, let Carson go get himself a little political experience first.
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While Obama was smoking dope and running with his left wing nut job friends "studying law" or whatever he did there (cuz his college transcripts are sealed).....Ben Carson was in medical school to become a surgeon. I'd take Ben Carson's experience over the fraud Obama any day of the week.
 
GodIsSalvation said:
Yea, that may be the case. Nonetheless though, with exception to well known military figures, to become US President you gotta have political experience. Don't matter if you or I like it or not, that's just how US elections work.
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more correctly, that's how the Political Machines on both sides work............those who control the money.......but it is not how our elections work............goes back to the "lesser of two evils" adage we are stuck with every General Election....sigh

But Obama wasn't even out of 1st Grade concerning "experience" when he was elected, and to be a Constitutional Scholar, he is surely sorely lacking in grasping Constitutional Law and Original Intent.............going by the last 6 years that is.

He isn't the first President to usurp the Constitution, but he is the latest, and he seems to have turned usurping the Constitution into an "art form."

.................anyway............

All around, I would choose Carson over Obama regardless of having held Political Office or not.
 
Sirk said:
While Obama was smoking dope and running with his left wing nut job friends "studying law" or whatever he did there (cuz his college transcripts are sealed).....Ben Carson was in medical school to become a surgeon. I'd take Ben Carson's experience over the fraud Obama any day of the week.
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Lol and Bush in college was doing strange things in coffins with his buddy Kerry, but that didn't stop the Americans from electing him now did it?

We're talking about political experience. Ben Carson has none. Doesn't matter if he cuts people up or not. Doesn't matter if you like him or not. To win the presidency he has to get political experience first. If you like Ben Carson, that is fair, there's no reason I can find not to like him, but he ain't gonna be president in 2016. If you want him to run for president at some point, have him run for a lesser office and bolster his cred.
 
GodIsSalvation said:
Lol and Bush in college was doing strange things in coffins with his buddy Kerry, but that didn't stop the Americans from electing him now did it?

We're talking about political experience. Ben Carson has none. Doesn't matter if he cuts people up or not. Doesn't matter if you like him or not. To win the presidency he has to get political experience first. If you like Ben Carson, that is fair, there's no reason I can find not to like him, but he ain't gonna be president in 2016. If you want him to run for president at some point, have him run for a lesser office and bolster his cred.
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Ya...I'm with ya. Why is it that we think any of these lifer politicians have some magical leadership mojo? When you say "political experience" I hear "adept liar".
 
p_rehbein said:
more correctly, that's how the Political Machines on both sides work............those who control the money.......but it is not how our elections work............goes back to the "lesser of two evils" adage we are stuck with every General Election....sigh

But Obama wasn't even out of 1st Grade concerning "experience" when he was elected, and to be a Constitutional Scholar, he is surely sorely lacking in grasping Constitutional Law and Original Intent.............going by the last 6 years that is.

He isn't the first President to usurp the Constitution, but he is the latest, and he seems to have turned usurping the Constitution into an "art form."

.................anyway............

All around, I would choose Carson over Obama regardless of having held Political Office or not.
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Obama ain't running in 2016. The Constitution has meant squat before Obama, it will mean squat after Obama. If Ben Carson, Mitt Romney, and Bush are the best the GOP can field, they might as well just disband their party and hand Hillary the presidency.
 
Sirk said:
Ya...I'm with ya. Why is it that we think any of these lifer politicians have some magical leadership mojo? When you say "political experience" I hear "adept liar".
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Well that's quite simple. The American citizen are kings. Kings are very basic-minded people. The presidency is a job. Put yourself in the hiring man's chair. Job experience is going to be a big factor they look for. It's not a done deal by experience, but someone with experience is going to have the advantage over someone without.
 
GodIsSalvation said:
Well that's quite simple. The American citizen are kings. Kings are very basic-minded people. The presidency is a job. Put yourself in the hiring man's chair. Job experience is going to be a big factor they look for. It's not a done deal by experience, but someone with experience is going to have the advantage over someone without.
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Anyone with the gift of gab and a pretty face can fool a slumbering electorate. Especially when they have a fawning media machine behind them.
 
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