None of that is biblical.
The devil (satan) is what lucifer became when he tried to over throw God.
That's when he because God's adversary and so God changed his name to satan which means adversary
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None of that is biblical.
The devil (satan) is what lucifer became when he tried to over throw God.
That's when he because God's adversary and so God changed his name to satan which means adversary
well if you want to get technical Could you quote scripture where it Says God actually changed Lucifer's name to satan.
Lucifer in latin means a light bearer to bring light, and the name Lucifer is referenced just once in Isaiah 14:12 Which reads a prophesy can vary to mean future conflicts with Lucifer
But is extremely weird that Lucifer is only mentioned so late on in the bible as fallen, which could indicate he's only just fallen
Where as satan is referenced before then, it could just imply a name given for something becoming your enemy, and not not necessarily a name change by God. It's more a descriptive title of an enemy who is wicked rather than a title.
What's more weird @HigherGospel is some modern translations don't even use Lucifer in this context, now you can give your reasons why, but it won't be full proof. And you could call your understanding biblical and mine not biblical, all you like, the bottom line is you will not have an answer other than an idea
Isaiah 14:12-17
New King James Version
The Fall of Lucifer
12 “How you are fallen from heaven,
O [a]Lucifer, son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!
13 For you have said in your heart:
‘I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
This part in particular
I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;...
Reads why would God let somebody like this into heaven for heavenly counsel ?. And looks more like rebellion after the council meeting in heaven in Job.
Isaiah 14:12-17
New King James Version
The Fall of Lucifer
12 “How you are fallen from heaven,
O [a]Lucifer, son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!
13 For you have said in your heart:
‘I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
This part in particular
I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;...
Reads why would God let somebody like this into heaven for heavenly counsel ?. And looks more like rebellion after the council meeting in heaven in Job.
A lot of the things we've seen that have inspired the treasures we have in heaven, would not have been possible if it weren't for ideas like these going about.
War inspired the tank, politics inspired much media, need and desire caused the making of things which in turn caused the need and desire to make better things.
As much as we're filled with Gods word, we wouldn't be the people we are today if it still weren't for the rest of the world.
The world doesn't keep rightousness, but we turn the things we take from the world into things for righteousness.
War inspired the tank, politics inspired much media, need and desire caused the making of things which in turn caused the need and desire to make better things.
As much as we're filled with Gods word, we wouldn't be the people we are today if it still weren't for the rest of the world.
The world doesn't keep rightousness, but we turn the things we take from the world into things for righteousness.
Jesus calls the devil satan - Matthew 16:23
Jesus is THE Word of God so we see the Lord went from calling the devil lucifer to calling him satan
Because lucifer is no longer a light berarer for God and has become God's adversary which is why the Lord calls him satan now.
That's because modern translations are vehicles for false doctrine the devil uses to deceive people
Jesus called him satan and He's Lord
Jesus knows what He's talking about and you obviously do not.
I'm sticking with the Lord Jesus.
That's when lucifer rebelled and became God's adversary at which point he became satan.
Enjoy thy speculation, I'll stick with calling the devil satan as Jesus did
Jesus called him satan because thats the name given to the adversary.
But the serpent in the garden of eden was a crafty animal called satan and it's believed the serpent was a crafty animal.
Many people call people satan to
Plus Jesus called Peter satan Was Peter satan too ?
Yes the devil went from being lucifer to being satan because he opposed God and became God's adversary
The devil is a spiritual being who took possession of an animal's body
No, Jesus was speaking directly to satan who was behind the evil spirit leading Peter to disobey the Lord in that moment.
Jesus was not actually saying Peter is satan.
Isn't it past time for you to pull yer head out and simply believe God's Word?
Doesn't say satan was behind peter it's believed it was about a temptation from Peter to deviate Jesus from the path he was on to to fulfilling his Devine destiny of fulfillment , Peter was trying to persuade Jesus from his path that Jesus saw as a form of temptation, and temptation also being the adversary where the term satan is used
Peter was focused about worldly concerns, and temptation is seen as the adversary also in this case.
Then we go to the garden of eden where temptation came through the serpent, also known as temptation also being the adversary, that Jesus used the term satan for , that represents leading you away from good.
So it's not as cut and shut as you think. As the adversary can also come from any type of influence leading you astray
Actually it is.
God is good, the devil is evil.
What part of this were you having a hard time grasping exactly?
It certain wasn't the Holy Spirit!
In this world one is either being influenced by the devil and his demons
Or one is being influenced by the Holy Spirit.
In that moment Peter was being influence by satan or one of the demons under satan's control which is who Jesus was adressing
Is that the annihilationism heresy that's been going around?
What's not written in the Bible is that satan has a physical body.
As such he seeks to control the bodies of others including animals if it suits his needs at the time.
[Verse 1]
Well I woke up this morning feeling fine
I woke up with heaven on my mind
I woke up with joy in my soul
'Cause I knew my Lord had control
I knew I was walkin' in the light
'Cause I'd been on my knees in the night
And I prayed 'til the Lord gave a sign
And now I'm feeling mighty fine
[Chorus]
Well, I'm feeling mighty fine
I've got heaven on my mind
Don't you know I wanna go
Where the milk and honey flow
There's a light that always shines
Down inside this heart of mine
I've got heaven, heaven on my mind
And now I'm feeling mighty fine (yes, I'm feeling fine)
[Verse 2]
Now I'm walking with Jesus all the time
We're walking and talking as we climb
We're traveling a road to the sky
Where I know I'll live when I die
He's been telling me all about that land
And He tells me that everything is grand
And He says that a home will be mine
And now I'm feeling mighty fine.
[Chorus]
Well I woke up this morning feeling fine
I woke up with heaven on my mind
I woke up with joy in my soul
'Cause I knew my Lord had control
I knew I was walkin' in the light
'Cause I'd been on my knees in the night
And I prayed 'til the Lord gave a sign
And now I'm feeling mighty fine
[Chorus]
Well, I'm feeling mighty fine
I've got heaven on my mind
Don't you know I wanna go
Where the milk and honey flow
There's a light that always shines
Down inside this heart of mine
I've got heaven, heaven on my mind
And now I'm feeling mighty fine (yes, I'm feeling fine)
[Verse 2]
Now I'm walking with Jesus all the time
We're walking and talking as we climb
We're traveling a road to the sky
Where I know I'll live when I die
He's been telling me all about that land
And He tells me that everything is grand
And He says that a home will be mine
And now I'm feeling mighty fine.
[Chorus]
this doesn't address what I wrote all it addresses is your ability to state a random truth to assume somebody must be liar because you've assumed they don't believe what your saying.
again this isn't wrote for the reason Jesus addressed Peter, another assumption on your part.
again accusing people of heresy has to be proven, and do far you haven't proven nothing, your post is just full of assumptions.
a demon possessing a person is not a reason you can fully lay all your assumptions on, which you do all the time, even assuming there the reason for every reason people are not agreeing with you.
Maybe you should tell me how you have so much knowledge about demons, on a personal level.
For one if a demon will possess an innocent animal it's means the demon hates innocence,
Why would that be well, because demons hates anything that is not a reflection of it's own nature.
And when that demon possesses innocence or tries to rule innocence, which could be any demon, that demon can become your adversary intent on leading you away from the truth. And that any demon can be called satan.
And any person leading people away from the truth deliberately without demon assistance can become your adversary
Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's not true.
Again, just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's not true.
If Jesus did actually claim Peter was satan then this is claiming Jesus is a liar.
And it's the claim that Jesus brought satan on as an Apostle and the claim satan wrote 1st and 2nd Peter and preached in the Book of acts.
Only a person listening to satan would claim such lies as they claim Jesus claimed Peter was satan.
When you stand before the Lord in judgement, you'll find out.
Spoken like one who knows little of God's Word.
We should really put this conversation on hold until you grow up in the Lord.
Spiritual babies can't even handle warm milk much less the meat of God's Word.
Any person leading people away from the truth are doing so with assistance from devils as they spread doctrines of demons.
Essentially, "satan" is not a name; it's a role. It means "accuser". Think "prosecutor" in a criminal court case. It has come to function as a name.
As for the serpent in the garden, he wasn't merely a "crafty animal". The Hebrew rendered "serpent" doesn't literally mean "snake" like a garter snake or a copperhead.
OP: do you believe that conspiracy theories prevent a person from rightly sharing their beliefs with followers of the Lord?
