God is Able to Raise Children from Stones...

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Notice John the Baptist said God is able to raise children from stones if people refuse to repent and submit to water baptism. This reveals God raises children through the NT water baptism.

"Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire." Luke 3:7-9
 
Notice John the Baptist said God is able to raise children from stones if people refuse to repent and submit to water baptism. This reveals God raises children through the NT water baptism.
Um, no. That is not what John said. Though you quoted it, you misrepresented it.

“We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.”

He did not say that God is able “if” they refuse to repent and be baptized. Rather, John was telling the people that their lineage from Abraham was irrelevant and that they still needed to repent.
 
Um, no. That is not what John said. Though you quoted it, you misrepresented it.

“We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.”

He did not say that God is able “if” they refuse to repent and be baptized. Rather, John was telling the people that their lineage from Abraham was irrelevant and that they still needed to repent.
Yes Too many people take this out of Context.
 
Some Bible scholars teach that "These Stones" are the stones that were laid by the tribes after crossing the Jordan. They say the stones are Jacobs sons. Way over my Head Im not a Jew.
 
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Um, no. That is not what John said. Though you quoted it, you misrepresented it.

“We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.”

He did not say that God is able “if” they refuse to repent and be baptized. Rather, John was telling the people that their lineage from Abraham was irrelevant and that they still needed to repent.
Note the context...
"Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire." Luke 3:7-9
 
Um, no. That is not what John said. Though you quoted it, you misrepresented it.

“We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.”

He did not say that God is able “if” they refuse to repent and be baptized. Rather, John was telling the people that their lineage from Abraham was irrelevant and that they still needed to repent.
They needed to repent AND BE BAPTIZED. Scripture reveals that after Jesus resurrection repentance and water baptism in His name was necessary in order to be a born again child of God.
 
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Notice John the Baptist said God is able to raise children from stones if people refuse to repent and submit to water baptism. This reveals God raises children through the NT water baptism.

"Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire." Luke 3:7-9

God did raise children from stony soil.
I bet next time He will use potting soil!
 
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They needed to repent AND BE BAPTIZED. Scripture reveals that after Jesus resurrection repentance and water baptism in His name was necessary in order to be a born again child of God.
You claimed in the OP, “ John the Baptist said God is able to raise children from stones if people refuse to repent and submit to water baptism. This reveals God raises children through the NT water baptism.”

Neither statement is correct according to Scripture. Instead of fussing over baptism, address your erroneous statements.
 
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You claimed in the OP, “ John the Baptist said God is able to raise children from stones if people refuse to repent and submit to water baptism. This reveals God raises children through the NT water baptism.”

Neither statement is correct according to Scripture. Instead of fussing over baptism, address your erroneous statements.
I see what I see... I can't help it if you don't.
 
Notice John the Baptist said God is able to raise children from stones if people refuse to repent and submit to water baptism. This reveals God raises children through the NT water baptism.

"Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire." Luke 3:7-9
“Notice John the Baptist said God is able to raise children from stones if people refuse to repent and submit to water baptism. “

John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“and said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭24:46-47‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,

and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38‬ ‭

“And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭8:36-38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism,”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4:4-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

one thing about John and israel v gentiles is pertaining to the end of the prophets

Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.”
‭‭Malachi‬ ‭3:1‬ ‭

Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: and he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.”
‭‭Malachi‬ ‭4:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And as they departed, Jesus began to say unto the multitudes concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken with the wind? But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? yea, I say unto you, and more than a prophet. For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, Which shall prepare thy way before thee. ( Malachi 3:1)

And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. And if ye will receive it, this is Elijah, which was for to come. ( the last two verses of the prophets in the Bible ) He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭11:7, 9-10, 12-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 
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Notice John the Baptist said God is able to raise children from stones if people refuse to repent and submit to water baptism. This reveals God raises children through the NT water baptism.

"Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire." Luke 3:7-9

John was talking to the Levite Priests, Which John was one of them, that knew them, that left them, left to Water Baptize the true Priest Jesus in the Jordan
that was John's calling, whom he did not know who his cousin was and got told by God the Spirit to go there and do it
Jesus was not a Levite, and Levitical priests would not have ever water Baptized Jesus, not being a Levite
So God called John to do it. When that day came, John at first refused to water Baptize Jesus, and Jesus replied he needed to get that done, that he was here to do all that was right first. So John did John's job and announced the Messiah is Jesus
Now risen John 19:30 had to happen first. now the new
  1. Hebrews 7:5
    And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:
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  2. Hebrews 7:11
    If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  3. Hebrews 7:12
    For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  4. Hebrews 7:14
    For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
 
God did raise children from stony soil.
I bet next time He will use potting soil!

Exodus 32:9, 33:3, 34:9, Deuteronomy 9:6 & 13, Nehemiah 9:16, Psalm 78:8, 81:11-12, Isaiah 48:4, Acts 7:51, Hebrews 3:7-8, etc.
 
Some Bible scholars teach that "These Stones" are the stones that were laid by the tribes after crossing the Jordan. They say the stones are Jacobs sons. Way over my Head Im not a Jew.
The fleshly nation of Israel was never meant to last forever. It couldn't. It and it's laws were based on Adams sin. Revelation talk about the twelve tribes and twelve apostles forming the heavenly kingdom. Meaning everyone can partake not just the Jews.
 
The fleshly nation of Israel was never meant to last forever. It couldn't. It and it's laws were based on Adams sin. Revelation talk about the twelve tribes and twelve apostles forming the heavenly kingdom. Meaning everyone can partake not just the Jews.
Then why is there a "New Jerusalem" in Eternity. Israel is meant to be Eternal. Jesus Preached to the Jews about "The Kingdom Of Heaven and The Kingdom Of God", Paul did not. The Church is Separate from Israel. Israel is not Transformed from Jacob yet. That Transformation takes place during "Jacobs Trouble", then Jesus is King of Israel for 1000 years. Then another transformation takes place so yes Fleshly Jacob is Eternally Spiritual Israel and "The Bride Of Christ" is Gentile. The Differences between Jew and Gentile were not that clear until these "End Times". Now Bible Scholars are seeing clear Divisions as we get nearer to Rapture, The current Challenge to Christians, among other things is "Replacement Theology".
 
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Notice John the Baptist said God is able to raise children from stones if people refuse to repent and submit to water baptism. This reveals God raises children through the NT water baptism.

"Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire." Luke 3:7-9

John the Baptist.essage on salvation was quoted in Acts 19.

4Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

The term believe is used exactly 100 times in the book of salvation, John's gospel.
John was rebuking the Jewish false teaching of heretage salvation. They were taught by their wicked preachers that they were special for being in Abraham's physical lineage.
John was using a figure of speech comparing them to stones, an unflattering analogy.
Being a Jew or keeping the laws by turning from allllll of your sins gets no one to heaven. He wouldn't acknowledge their salvation and told them they need to change their minds (repent). Jesus was their only way of salvation, not the water in the Jordan river or their ancestry
 
They needed to repent AND BE BAPTIZED. Scripture reveals that after Jesus resurrection repentance and water baptism in His name was necessary in order to be a born again child of God.

“Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, and the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭3:21-22‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,

and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38-39‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:27-29‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 
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Then why is there a "New Jerusalem" in Eternity. Israel is meant to be Eternal. Jesus Preached to the Jews about "The Kingdom Of Heaven and The Kingdom Of God", Paul did not. The Church is Separate from Israel. Israel is not Transformed from Jacob yet. That Transformation takes place during "Jacobs Trouble", then Jesus is King of Israel for 1000 years. Then another transformation takes place so yes Fleshly Jacob is Eternally Spiritual Israel and "The Bride Of Christ" is Gentile. The Differences between Jew and Gentile were not that clear until these "End Times". Now Bible Scholars are seeing clear Divisions as we get nearer to Rapture, The current Challenge to Christians, among other things is "Replacement Theology".
Nation of Israel is now a spiritual government run by Jesus. It includes Jews and gentiles.
 
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