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Do what makes you happy, any God who would turn his back on one of his children for falling in love is not a God worth praising. If God is our father and we are his children, then it is foolish to think that he would condemn you for loving someone. God gave humans the ability to love, to deny that love would be a slap in the face of the Lord
 
Do what makes you happy, any God who would turn his back on one of his children for falling in love is not a God worth praising. If God is our father and we are his children, then it is foolish to think that he would condemn you for loving someone. God gave humans the ability to love, to deny that love would be a slap in the face of the Lord

I agree. MY GOD wants His children to be peacefully in love with whichever sex they happen to love, not force themselves to be with someone they don't love b/c televangelists suddenly got powerful in the 70's...
 
"MY GOD wants His children to be peacefully in love with whichever sex they happen to love, not force themselves to be with someone they don't love"

Well, thats interesting. Because the God of the Bible has some other ideas about homosexuality.

ROMANS 1 24-27
Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.
They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen.
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.
In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.


So tell me FSUboy966 how in the world did you get those unchristian ideas about God and "love" ?
 
hey hon,
I've got a lot of the same issues you do. I was actually in the same type of issue that you were back in November. I know it'll be hard, maybe harder because you've known her for so long, but your best bet to avoid this is to tell her no and tell her why. If she won't give up then you'll have to avoid her.
I'm here if ya want some help or advice or something. I'm free of homosexuality too so I might be able to help. :)
 
Do what makes you happy, any God who would turn his back on one of his children for falling in love is not a God worth praising. If God is our father and we are his children, then it is foolish to think that he would condemn you for loving someone. God gave humans the ability to love, to deny that love would be a slap in the face of the Lord

I agree. MY GOD wants His children to be peacefully in love with whichever sex they happen to love, not force themselves to be with someone they don't love b/c televangelists suddenly got powerful in the 70's...

I want to remind you two that this is Christian chat for starters, so Christians don't come here looking for opinions or support that does not represent the Bible.

You are calling God a liar when you teach people that it's ok to follow things against God's will (in this case homosexuality). Not the best thing to do when you are going to stand before Him some day and He's going to be judging, not just your heart, but also the fact that you influenced people against His will for their lives and affected others as well. It's a pretty serious matter.

If you are Christians, then you really need to read God's Word before you speak, so you can avoid doing harm to yourself and others.

Peace.
 
I want to remind you two that this is Christian chat for starters, so Christians don't come here looking for opinions or support that does not represent the Bible.

You are calling God a liar when you teach people that it's ok to follow things against God's will (in this case homosexuality). Not the best thing to do when you are going to stand before Him some day and He's going to be judging, not just your heart, but also the fact that you influenced people against His will for their lives and affected others as well. It's a pretty serious matter.

If you are Christians, then you really need to read God's Word before you speak, so you can avoid doing harm to yourself and others.

Peace.

first of these two are causes no harm to anyone. many christian dont follow everything in the bible or have their own interpritation so the follow a different way to you. now i can go on to say why god is a liar to be more accurate the bible could be a liar being transalted and change through out the years many things can be put into to suit the user but im not going to start a debate on it this is the wrong thread for it.

now i have been told by christian on this site the belivers are controlled by god and non belivers can be control and influenced by the devil and he uses non belivers to tempt belivers away from god the devil uses non belives because he himself can not influence control or put ideas in belivers heads so with that said how did she get feelings for the same sex when god is in control of her the devil cant put that in her head she belives shes protected and humans dont have the power to force some1 to love them or turn them gay.

well you might say "no the devil is at work her friend is makeing her gay so she turns away from god" well for starters is her friend a beliver if so then maybe it was god intention for them to fall in love. now if she was a non beliver. the only thing we know she said that she wont take no for an answer which indicates she doesnt care about her religion she loves her for who she is.

now with that rant done i have my final thing to say this is a christian chat which welcomes belivers and non belivers with different views and opinion not just yours this isnt your christian chat this is everyones christian chat and you should have the decency to respect others and not to imply that they are not christian just because they see the bible a little differently compared to you.

thank you and good night
 
this is a very testy subject and I do not wish to offend anyone because I have the utmost respect for everyone's beliefs. It feel a little differently than some on this particular topic, having lived in the presence of that sin all my life. It is hard to disassociate that sin from a family member, or someone else you love. Anyway, I will keep my feelings about homosexuality and the bible to myself.

All I can say is that you did the right thing by opening up to this community because it can help you make logical and reasonable choices for yourself. Ask the Lord to be with you throughout your decsion making process so that you can make the right choice.
 
It can't be that big a sin. If it really was a huge sin then why would god make you that way. Studies have proven that homo-/bi-sexual people are born that way
 
God would NEVER make any1 homo. They go down that path on their own. It's more of a mental thing that can be changed!
 
The bible is clearly against it. Umm some people are struggling with it so dont even say it isnt a sin people. If god wanted us to be that way all of the puzzle peices would have fit together if you know what I mean.

BUT
Male Puzzle Peice and Female Puzzle Peice Fit Together

Male Puzzle Peice and Male Puzzle Peice DO NOT Fit Together

Female Puzzle Peice and Female Puzzle Peice DO NOT Fit Together

NO
Homosexuality is not the most terrible sin you can commit

YES
It is clearly a sin.

THEN WHAT?
It is a sin just like everything else. So we should love the sinner not the Sin.
 
It can't be that big a sin. If it really was a huge sin then why would god make you that way. Studies have proven that homo-/bi-sexual people are born that way

no such thing as a "big sin" all sin is the same. me lying is no different than some dude killing someone. just wanted to clear that up for you :)
 
first of these two are causes no harm to anyone. many christian dont follow everything in the bible or have their own interpritation so the follow a different way to you. now i can go on to say why god is a liar to be more accurate the bible could be a liar being transalted and change through out the years many things can be put into to suit the user but im not going to start a debate on it this is the wrong thread for it.

now i have been told by christian on this site the belivers are controlled by god and non belivers can be control and influenced by the devil and he uses non belivers to tempt belivers away from god the devil uses non belives because he himself can not influence control or put ideas in belivers heads so with that said how did she get feelings for the same sex when god is in control of her the devil cant put that in her head she belives shes protected and humans dont have the power to force some1 to love them or turn them gay.

well you might say "no the devil is at work her friend is makeing her gay so she turns away from god" well for starters is her friend a beliver if so then maybe it was god intention for them to fall in love. now if she was a non beliver. the only thing we know she said that she wont take no for an answer which indicates she doesnt care about her religion she loves her for who she is.

now with that rant done i have my final thing to say this is a christian chat which welcomes belivers and non belivers with different views and opinion not just yours this isnt your christian chat this is everyones christian chat and you should have the decency to respect others and not to imply that they are not christian just because they see the bible a little differently compared to you.

thank you and good night

The Bible is clear on what is sin and what isn't. That's why it says...
"For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins"


Those who encourage others to deliberately live in sin aren't doing anything different than what Satan is doing. They ought to consider what Satan's punishment will be before they continue in partnering with him.

Respecting God's truth above man's lies has always been what is decent and that's the dencency you should be able to count on from anyone that follows Jesus. I do my best to give people the respect they deserve, which is giving them the highest respect by sharing God's Word with them in love.
 
ayee everyone (:
the names Talia, 15 years old
soo 2 days ago i was video chatting with one of my friends (she's in the US on vacation) and she was talking about her ex that she broke up with about 2 weeks earlier blah blah
she knows i'm attracted to girls and i'm trying to stop all that so when she told me she really liked me.. like LIKED me, i thought she was just playing
after a long time of talking about it she told me when she gets here (she left TODAY to come back & she'll be here TOMORROW) she's gonna ask me out and ''will NOT take no for an answer.''
to be honest.. i love the girl to death
we've been friends since i knew myself
but i know that saying yes to her is the wrongest thing to do
and THE biggest sin i'll ever commit in my entire lifetime
i know the right thing to do is just say no but it's not gonna be easy at all!
i know that God will help me 'cause i'm doing this all for him (:
i'm praying so hard about it and hopefully i wont get caught up and say or do something that i'm gonna regret later on.

so yeah.. thats all. thanks for reading (:

Hey Talia,

I just wanted to encourage you with some awesome scriptures:
James 1:12-17
12 Blessed is the man who endures temptation; for when he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him. 13 Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am tempted by God"; for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone. 14 But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. 15 Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death. 16 Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren. 17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning."

Hebrews 4:14-15
14 Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. 15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin.

Jesus was tempted with the same things and He will help you through it!!! God's blessing is far greater than the passing pleasures of sin.
 
God would NEVER make any1 homo. They go down that path on their own. It's more of a mental thing that can be changed!

1. Apparently he would since he did, and no it can't be changed, I would know, I'm bisexual.

2. Do you honestly think that the Bible was completely written by God.. Yes, some of it may have been true, but it was written by men, so the views are gonna be different and what was put in the bible is what the men thought was wrong, not what Jesus did. The bible says that's it's ok to sell your daughter into slavery and to stone people to death, but homo-/bi-sexuality isn't ok??? Get real. Here is a quote I like from a guy I met on youtube, and I agree with his view on the bible:

"It's a book from lots of sources. Some bits are inspired and other are prejudiced. Some bits are accurate history and other bits are myth or deliberate exaggeration or made up. Some bits were written down hundreds of years after the events they describe so can't help being inaccurate. You have to use your own judgment. It's interesting in the same way that the books of the Romans or Egyptians or Babylonians are interesting - but I wouldn't use any of them to tell me how to live."
 
1. Apparently he would since he did, and no it can't be changed, I would know, I'm bisexual.


God did not create us evil. He created us with the capability of evil so that we may choose.

2. Do you honestly think that the Bible was completely written by God..
I can't answer fo Peachetty, but form my observation, most Christians who adhere to the infallablity of Scripture, do not believe God used is heavenly quill to write the New International Version, or any bible for that matter. The only thing God physicall wrote, was the Ten Commandments with Moses as is accounted for in Exodus 34:1 and 34:28.

Exodus 34

The New Stone Tablets

1 The LORD said to Moses, “Chisel out two stone tablets like the first ones, and I will write on them the words that were on the first tablets, which you broke.

28 Moses was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant—the Ten Commandments.


Yes, some of it may have been true
I believe it cover to cover. Theres evidence for more of it than you might think.

, but it was written by men, so the views are gonna be different and what was put in the bible is what the men thought was wrong, not what Jesus did.
For the Trinitarian, Jesus is God in the flesh. As such the OT God would be by proxy Jesus, based on the Trinity. It's not easy to understand. As far as men writing it, yes, that is true. The only part where men can influence, is in the translation process. The original Manuscripts were written by men who had the inspiration of God. Basically, God indicated what to write, how he did I don't recall. Compare the writings of Paul and other NT books to the four Synoptic Gospels.

The doctrine of the inspiration of the Bible means that the Bible in the original documents is God-breathed, that it is a divine product, and, because it is divine, the original documents are inerrant. The copies of those documents are not inspired. We have copies of inspired documents.
2 Tim. 3:16-17 says, "All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; 17 that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work." Paul who wrote this epistle was obviously referring to the entirety of the Old Testament as being inspired. The word "inspired" is literally "God-breathed." This is an interesting phrase, since it implies that the Scriptures are from the mouth of God. Likewise, Peter says in 2 Pet. 1:21, "for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God." Notice that Peter is stating that prophecy is not the product of human will. Instead, prophecy occurs by those moved by the Holy Spirit.

Is the Bible inspired? | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry <--- more on inspiration
https://school.carm.org/amember/files/demo2/equip.htm <--- click on "Is the bible reliable?"


The bible says that's it's ok to sell your daughter into slavery

This is a myth based on misinformation of the passage...

7 “If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. 8 If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself,[b] he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. 9 If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. 10 If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights. 11 If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money.

If you notice it says in the first line, that the female is not to go free as the male. Given that in the OT times, females could not own property, if a male had the male slave for sexual purposes that would have been Sodomy, and a a big no-no in OT society. Almost worthy of death you could say. Let alone, if he were buying her for a sex-slave, this would take away from her virginity, and to give her ot his son, from my understanding is another big no-no. Adultery, almost worth of death you could say. In fact, if you want to get relativistic, this passage grants more than slavery has in other societies. If he gives her to his son as a wife, she must be treated and given the rights that a wife would. However, in America, sexual assault of slaves was common.



and to stone people to death
You are making a moral judgement, and require a moral law to do so. If you have no objective morality, and morality is decided by you and I, you can not remain consistant with that philosophy, and condemn acts on a moral basis.

Ravi Zacharias explains it a bit better here....

YouTube - Dr. Ravi Zacharias Question and Answer - Moral Law and Giver <--- click

, but homo-/bi-sexuality isn't ok???
This stems from the Marriage Covenent being sacred. Any time you violate it, you are acting.. "sacrilegiously" If the Marriage Covenent is defined as male/female then anything other than that would be a violation, and as a result sacrilegious. For the same reason lust (gay and straight) is sinful. It is commity adultery in the heart. Adultery is a violate of the Marriage Covenent.


Get real.
If morality is in the eye of the beholder, what does it matter?

Here is a quote I like from a guy I met on youtube, and I agree with his view on the bible:

"It's a book from lots of sources. Some bits are inspired and other are prejudiced. Some bits are accurate history and other bits&#65279; are myth or deliberate exaggeration or made up. Some bits were written down hundreds of years after the events they describe so can't help being inaccurate. You have to use your own judgment. It's interesting in the same way that the books of the Romans or Egyptians or Babylonians are interesting - but I wouldn't use any of them to tell me how to live."

A claim without substance is a baseless claim.
 
Adding to my previous post, didn't make it iwthin the 5 minute time limit.

If you do not have a moral law, you can not make moral judgements. For the Christian, we learn about the moral laws through the word of God. As a result, if the bible says something is immoral, it is immoral. The bible is very clear on the topic of the immorality of homosexual activity. The only controversy that exists on the matter is man's attempt to change the bible to his socially-conditioned illusions.
 
no such thing as a "big sin" all sin is the same. me lying is no different than some dude killing someone. just wanted to clear that up for you :)


Actually, that's a misinterpretation/translation of scripture. NO WHERE does it say that all sins are AS BAD as others. It DOES say that God sees ALL sins, and that THINKING about sinning is sinning, but it never says that THINKING about killing someone is the SAME as killing someone. And even though I don't believe homosexuality to be a sin at all, if it was, no, it's no where near killing someone. For one, it's not in the 10 Commandments, as long as they're not cheating on a previous spouse.
 
1. Apparently he would since he did, and no it can't be changed, I would know, I'm bisexual.

I have similar issues, but because I am attracted to girls sometimes doesn't make me bisexual. I try not to dwell or act on it. Saying you are bisexual and made that way is a bit strange; being actively bisexual isn't just a feeling that you might have been born with (if you believe that, I'm not sure) that's acting on it. God doesn't MAKE you DO anything. Feelings sometimes cannot be controllled very well, but your own actions are all up to you. Does that make sense? :S
 
I want to remind you two that this is Christian chat for starters, so Christians don't come here looking for opinions or support that does not represent the Bible.

You are calling God a liar when you teach people that it's ok to follow things against God's will (in this case homosexuality). Not the best thing to do when you are going to stand before Him some day and He's going to be judging, not just your heart, but also the fact that you influenced people against His will for their lives and affected others as well. It's a pretty serious matter.

If you are Christians, then you really need to read God's Word before you speak, so you can avoid doing harm to yourself and others.

Peace.

Is it lonely up there on your pedestal? Is your horse high enough?
I love that you think you're God's messenger on Earth, but think again, buddy. What right do you have to tell me or anyone that we're "harming" ourselves and not being good Christians b/c we don't prescribe to the relatively modern notion that laws should reflect religion and homosexuality is evil? Try again.
 
Is it lonely up there on your pedestal? Is your horse high enough?
I love that you think you're God's messenger on Earth, but think again, buddy. What right do you have to tell me or anyone that we're "harming" ourselves and not being good Christians b/c we don't prescribe to the relatively modern notion that laws should reflect religion and homosexuality is evil? Try again.

The Bible says that if any of you speaks...let him speak as the voice of God (1 Peter 4:11). In other words if you're going to speak something, let it be what God would speak. Easy enough for us we know what He has spoken, His judgements and expectations, so we are supposed to speak in accordance with that, and if we choose not to do that...scripture has something to say about that ( Isaiah 8:20). As a Christian...would you bring any other message than God's word??

I have every right to let you know you're a harm to yourself and others when you are encouraging people who want to follow Jesus to follow sin instead (2nd Timothy 4:1-4).

A brief read of 1 Corinthians 6:9, 10 will help you understand what God has spoken about it. If you are having trouble with the Greek then you can refer to this link that is very informative of the Greek: http://apprising.org/2011/02/23/homosexuality-and-1-corinthians-69/ .

1 Timothy 1:6-10
6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk, 7 desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither what they say nor the things which they affirm. 8 But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully, 9 knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10 for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine