Gay Christian?

[MarkMulder]

So then you can't sin yourself any sin or you aren't saved either. God thus did not have Mercy on all.
How can you, I or anyone condemn another when none of anyone's obedience is perfect and when we think it is look out for here comes a messenger of Satan to buffet you to humble anyone that God has accepted
2Cor 12 explains this haughtiness that I have done also in the past and am now humbled and in awe over the awesome Mercy from God through Son
Micah 6:8 He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

If you're saved you're saved, sinning after that won't take that away. Repenting your sins is the first step towards being born again, but that doesn't mean you don't ever have to do it again once you're saved. I'm not "condemning" anyone, but just trying to explain how I understand it. We're all sinners, but as christians we believe we need to repent our sins. That sets us apart from the gays who willingly sin (by calling themselves "gay" even). That's why you cant be both.

 

[homwardbound]

I'm not sure that everything your saying here Homward, puts up a good defense in turning a blind eye to sexual immorality? As I have said a couple of times on posts; there is no such thing as a gay Christian, but there are Christians who are gay. Because, you are right we all struggle with some sort of sin the whole of our life! There is no such thing as a murdering Christian, but there are Christians who have murdered. But you have as good a personality to minister to all as I have ever seen, and that is a gift from God; that I'm sure from listening to you, you work at everyday!
many blessings

Not sure what to say, but thank you for that, yet it is not me as I want it, even though I do get in the way, from time to time, and turn to God to teach me, and God has never failed me.
I always start out when approaching the throne of Grace, with Thank You Jesus and Father for taking away the sin of the world in your sight. And seeing this not to take fro granted, please teach me how to just trust and walk as Jesus your only begotten Son did.
Not for gain here in this world, or a message or anything except to just know you Father
Thanks in advance because Father I know you are trustworthy

I believe to exercise Faith in the living God
Believe, receive, and see
And please pray for me to advance the kingdom as Father wants not as I or anyone else wants.
Remember the show on TV, "Father knows best" That is wahat I believe and have made many mistakes along the way, yet Father has been Faithful, even unto you, you and you over there
Father's Mercy is meant for nothing more than to appreciate so deep, one just can't help but to respond in thanksgiving and praise, realizing I, you or anyone does not deserve the Mercy given ever
Love you as deep as the Mississippi and Father even deeper

 

[homwardbound]

People whom have been involved in witchcraft when testifying will tell you that people who give birth to gay child is only because one of the parent or one of the person in their linage was involved in witchcraft. It is blood line problem that comes from witchcraft practice.

NB: If you know witchcraft is mainly about making children with children that descended from demi-gods

Is it not a blood line problem that began at Adam and Eve? Born of the flesh and not of the Spirit of God. And when Christ came, all that changed death, burial, resurrection, ascension, and delivery of the Holy Spirit of God to teach us truth over error

 

[homwardbound]

If you're saved you're saved, sinning after that won't take that away. Repenting your sins is the first step towards being born again, but that doesn't mean you don't ever have to do it again once you're saved. I'm not "condemning" anyone, but just trying to explain how I understand it. We're all sinners, but as christians we believe we need to repent our sins. That sets us apart from the gays who willingly sin (by calling themselves "gay" even). That's why you cant be both.

Thanks for that explanation Mark and care, appreciated
Maybe see this, when one does not want to sin and tries not are they exercising flesh efforts that can never please God?
Which is better to be focused on not sinning or trusting God that he took it away?
[h=3]Galatians 6:8[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]8 [/SUP]For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Have you not yet found out that trying not to sin causes one to sin, for as the mind thought is focused on not doing waht one does not want to do, the emotion knowing no right or wrong produces the thoughts of the flesh
See the amazing magician the trick of the enemy to keep one trapped in sin
Therefore:
Romans 6:11
Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

By Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior unto Father

 

[homwardbound]

To anyone struggling with sin, maybe instead of trying to stop it, which flesh just can't do perfectly, start trusting God to do in you what you can't do in self.
For me when I saw that God just loves me and all people. That is what changed me, this unfathomable love, from God that just doesn't quit, and me knowing I do not deserve Mercy ever, to this very day, yet God through Son poured out this amazing Mercy to all whom will turn and believe God. god picks up and begins a growth in you, that you are in total agreement with, having an unbreakable relationship.
God never once forced me to quit anything, I chose to trust and by trust I quit willingly, seeing all things are permissable for me, just not all things beneficial. Still growing in grace to Father and Son, being reminded that I can't do what God has done for me
So anyone struggling stop and wave the white flag, give up to God alone to teach you truth from error and God shows his amazing love pouring this love all over you starting at the heart. Smothered and covered, it is just amazing.
As far as sinning going on anymore, it just makes no more sense, being in thanksgiving and praise, so much that there is no time to harm anyone else and if you do you are apologetic from the heart, and not overly, truthfully and God knows who are and who are not, whether one is gay or not.
I remember a time when this word Gay meant happy, yes I am so old I was the servant at the last supper
Love you all unconditionally as God does today, shown and given to us through Son's finished work for us all at the cross

That is where the new life begins in the Spirit of God starting at his death, being our death to self daily, if we will start exercising Faith

 

[MarkMulder]

Thanks for that explanation Mark and care, appreciated
Maybe see this, when one does not want to sin and tries not are they exercising flesh efforts that can never please God?

You're welcome. It's possible that us trying NOT to sin can never please God (what can anyway?), but I'm sure He appreciates the effort. [James 4:7-10] But the other extreme is willingly sinning, like boasting you can be BOTH a Christian AND gay. the words "I'm gay" should be part of our repentance, and not be in the vocabulary of a born again christian anymore. It's possible to sin, even after being born again, but in no way should that sin be a part of our IDENTITY anymore: dead to the former self, alive in Christ! Amen.
I mean, could Mary of Magdelene (so to speak) call herself a "christian prostitute" after her encounter with Jesus? No, because He told her to sin no more, and that means not just "trying to do the right thing" but a complete change of life. [John 8:11]

 

[homwardbound]

You're welcome. It's possible that us trying NOT to sin can never please God (what can anyway?), but I'm sure He appreciates the effort. [James 4:7-10] But the other extreme is willingly sinning, like boasting you can be BOTH a Christian AND gay. the words "I'm gay" should be part of our repentance, and not be in the vocabulary of a born again christian anymore. It's possible to sin, even after being born again, but in no way should that sin be a part of our IDENTITY anymore: dead to the former self, alive in Christ! Amen.
I mean, could Mary of Magdelene (so to speak) call herself a "christian prostitute" after her encounter with Jesus? No, because He told her to sin no more, and that means not just "trying to do the right thing" but a complete change of life. [John 8:11]

Absolutely does, it is the beginning of coming to the end of the energy of our own flesh. The one's that do come to understand the new life in the Spirit are the one's that truly do not want to sin. God knows this and thus reveals himself to those that are sincere, and these find the:
Romans 6:6 knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
2 Corinthians 13:4 For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him by the power of God toward you.
Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Galatians 3:1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
Galatians 5:24 And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Galatians 6:14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.

You asked, how? by trust in God and believing he did take away all sin in his sight through Son Chirst. So that he can give you new life in the Spirit by the resurrected Christ. And we learn to walk as he walked in 100% dependence on Father's lead through the Holy Spirit the same Holy Spirit sent on Pentecost to all that beleive






It is not over, still sent as a free gift from God the Father by belief

 

[ProphetExcalibur]

Not sure what to say, but thank you for that, yet it is not me as I want it, even though I do get in the way, from time to time, and turn to God to teach me, and God has never failed me.
I always start out when approaching the throne of Grace, with Thank You Jesus and Father for taking away the sin of the world in your sight. And seeing this not to take fro granted, please teach me how to just trust and walk as Jesus your only begotten Son did.
Not for gain here in this world, or a message or anything except to just know you Father
Thanks in advance because Father I know you are trustworthy

I believe to exercise Faith in the living God
Believe, receive, and see
And please pray for me to advance the kingdom as Father wants not as I or anyone else wants.
Remember the show on TV, "Father knows best" That is wahat I believe and have made many mistakes along the way, yet Father has been Faithful, even unto you, you and you over there
Father's Mercy is meant for nothing more than to appreciate so deep, one just can't help but to respond in thanksgiving and praise, realizing I, you or anyone does not deserve the Mercy given ever
Love you as deep as the Mississippi and Father even deeper

I couldn't have put it any better, Homeward!
and I must add you do also have the gift to Gab!!! hahah

 

[Dix]

Look close at the people whom God had to cut off from the land starting with;

Noah and the ark; When God judged the people by killing them with water is because they slept with fallen angels and giants (wicked giants descendant), remember God said people are longer the people whom I have created

Judas (The Killer of Jesus), Remember even Jesus told his disciples that one of them was a devil, but he killed himself

Giants in Kanan: also descendant from fallen angels and God sent children of Isreal to besiege their land and kill them

Sodom and Gomorrah; also descendant from fallen angels and people became wicked to the point that God had to send sulpher to kill all of them

The fallen Babylon also descendant from fallen angels and people became too cruel and God pronounced judgment against them.

My point is when these fallen angels come to woman so that woman can conceive babies for them, whether through witchcraft which is a usual way or other, their children normally hate God and have characteristics in their blood line that are against God, like;
homosexuality
Too much cruelty
..... You can mention all demonic characteristics

 

[ji]

Upfront (not that it matters), I am not gay.

That being said, I don't know how I feel about whether or not being gay and acting on it is a sin or not...but right now, I'm thinking that it's not. Again: I DON'T KNOW ECACTLY HOW I FEEL.

I know all of the verses that people use to point out that it is wrong and not how God created it.

BUT, I've also heard views on the other side of it. I also study a bit of ancient history in school and know that man-on-man action in the Bible wasn't what it is today. Then, it was talking about rape and that has never been ok. (I also don't have all the facts on this.)

I know Christians who are gay and are ok with God. They feel that it is not a sin (and I know they aren't justifying their sin by saying this--they've actually experienced God's comfort in who they are with this...meaning that they are gay).

So, I was wondering if anyone on here is gay and would like to share how they feel in their relationship with God on this.

Comments from straight people are welcome, too, of course.

I've just been incredibly curious and confused about this for a while.

The word gay has an entirely different meaning if you look at the word and how it was used some decades ago.If you're talking about homo sexual men/women then you are referring to homosexuality,its not gay.Otherwise please tell so.

There is nothing homosexual in Christianity.Christianity is not gender based.Its path to God through the door called JESUS.If there are homo sexual people in a Church community,and if they are ok to continue like that with church supporting them,then that church is satanic.The pastor/leader or people there are under demonic influence or mostly possessed.It's not Christian.But if a homosexual person is going to Church with a willing heart to change to natural ways depending on the gender they have,then it brings a smile on God's face.He/she is a valuable member in the Church in God's eyes among the 'snoring' many.
Homosexuality is a condition which affects the brain.They need to be free from the demonic influence that entices them to do unnatural things and abominations.Mostly they need love,care and support.They shouldn't be humiliated or discarded.
If you see such a person,pray for that person.And pray to God to give you the awareness to be that person's friend.And be that person's friend in Christ.
God Bless

 

[David_1]

Seems homosexuality is different from other sins. I know plenty of drunks that aren't banished from the church, yet still struggle with their addiction.

But I certainly know of people who struggle with homosexuality, who have been killed by Christians.

But.... meh.... it seems like gay sex is literally all the modern church is focussed on. That and making sure people can't afford healthcare.

Which always confuses me because Jesus never spoke of Gay sex...and he certainly focussed on healing people.

 

[homwardbound]

I couldn't have put it any better, Homeward!
and I must add you do also have the gift to Gab!!! hahah

I do not know that necessarily a gift, I do talk on and on, working on that, rightly wanting to discern, and don't always, yet glory in my iniquities, needing God

 

[homwardbound]

Look close at the people whom God had to cut off from the land starting with;

Noah and the ark; When God judged the people by killing them with water is because they slept with fallen angels and giants (wicked giants descendant), remember God said people are longer the people whom I have created

Judas (The Killer of Jesus), Remember even Jesus told his disciples that one of them was a devil, but he killed himself

Giants in Kanan: also descendant from fallen angels and God sent children of Isreal to besiege their land and kill them

Sodom and Gomorrah; also descendant from fallen angels and people became wicked to the point that God had to send sulpher to kill all of them

The fallen Babylon also descendant from fallen angels and people became too cruel and God pronounced judgment against them.

My point is when these fallen angels come to woman so that woman can conceive babies for them, whether through witchcraft which is a usual way or other, their children normally hate God and have characteristics in their blood line that are against God, like;
homosexuality
Too much cruelty
..... You can mention all demonic characteristics

Look closely at what God did at the cross of Christ for all, waiting for the choice to be made belief or not?

 

[homwardbound]

Look close at the people whom God had to cut off from the land starting with;

Noah and the ark; When God judged the people by killing them with water is because they slept with fallen angels and giants (wicked giants descendant), remember God said people are longer the people whom I have created

Judas (The Killer of Jesus), Remember even Jesus told his disciples that one of them was a devil, but he killed himself

Giants in Kanan: also descendant from fallen angels and God sent children of Isreal to besiege their land and kill them

Sodom and Gomorrah; also descendant from fallen angels and people became wicked to the point that God had to send sulpher to kill all of them

The fallen Babylon also descendant from fallen angels and people became too cruel and God pronounced judgment against them.

My point is when these fallen angels come to woman so that woman can conceive babies for them, whether through witchcraft which is a usual way or other, their children normally hate God and have characteristics in their blood line that are against God, like;
homosexuality
Too much cruelty
..... You can mention all demonic characteristics

So then. make the choice to believe God and believe God, stand firm in the redemption given to us by Christ and reckon thyself dead to evil as in doing evil things to others and love neighbor as self, yet not in a flesh way, Spiritual new life given to us from God the Father by the resurrected Christ
Romans 3:24 being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Work hard at figuring that out, God did it all for us through Son, and we each individually change with God as we each agree with God as what is not good for us to what is, never forced, not by God anyway, people yes, but not God

 

[DragonSlayer]

" Gay Christian " ? = Oxymoron !

 

[setapartHebrews10]

Gay Christian? There is no such thing! God is against homosexuality and Carnal persons.
Read 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

"Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people-none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."

 

[homwardbound]

" Gay Christian " ? = Oxymoron !

Sinner any sin then == the same does it not? and are we not all guilty and in need

 

[homwardbound]

Gay Christian? There is no such thing! God is against homosexuality and Carnal persons.
Read 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

"Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people-none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."

only through the Christ is this done. Believe, receive and see

 

[Dix]

So then. make the choice to believe God and believe God, stand firm in the redemption given to us by Christ and reckon thyself dead to evil as in doing evil things to others and love neighbor as self, yet not in a flesh way, Spiritual new life given to us from God the Father by the resurrected Christ
Romans 3:24 being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Work hard at figuring that out, God did it all for us through Son, and we each individually change with God as we each agree with God as what is not good for us to what is, never forced, not by God anyway, people yes, but not God

Jesus saves all types of sinners when they truly repent but the bible also says if the foundations be destroyed then what can the righteous do: Gays are one of those who have their foundation destroyed by satan and they don't plan to sin against God but it is within them to sin.

Note again Jesus can save all types of sinners when they truly repent

 

[Dix]

You know the difficult part with this guys is that they all secretly support Gay rights even if they say that they are born again