Galatian Conundrums
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And in this mountain the Lord of hosts will make for all people
a feast of choice pieces, a feast of wines on the lees,
of fat things full of marrow, of well-refined wines on the lees.
And He will destroy on this mountain the surface of the covering cast over all people,
and the veil that is spread over all nations.
He will swallow up death forever, and the Lord God will wipe away tears from all faces;
the rebuke of His people He will take away from all the earth;
for the Lord has spoken.
(Isaiah 25:6-8)
what does Matthew 17:24-27 mean?
if Peter - or anyone else - didn't fully understand it at any particular point in time, does it make it untrue until it is fully comprehended?
Peter at Gethsemane did not understand that Christ had to be delivered to the cross to die, and to rise again.
this is despite the fact Jesus had already told him ((Matthew 16:21)) point blank.
Peters lack of comprehension doesn't mean that the Messiah didn't have to suffer and die and rise and ascend and return.
“Our friend Lazarus sleeps, but I go that I may wake him up.”
Then His disciples said, “Lord, if he sleeps he will get well.” However, Jesus spoke of his death, but they thought that He was speaking about taking rest in sleep.
Then Jesus said to them plainly, “Lazarus is dead. And I am glad for your sakes that I was not there, that you may believe! Nevertheless let us go to him.”
Then Thomas, who is called the Twin, said to his fellow disciples, “Let us also go, that we may die with Him.”
(John 11:11-16)
why do the scriptures often point out the disciples being slow to understand what the Christ tells them?
they are often almost oblivious, in retrospect. who would write such a narrative?? why?
If a Jew at acts 2 were to ask peter “now that I repent from crucifying Jesus and be baptized as you have said, do I still need to keep the law of Moses?”
Peter would most certainly reply yes. So that means he cannot be preaching the same gospel Paul would preach later on in Galatians.
If you want to comment on a discussion that does not involve you, at least understand the discussion topic.
That is the point I was making to grandpa.
We are all under the law of Moses just not under the penalty . Christians are under the law of faith (the unseen gospel ).They are not exempt from going to jail or getting into trouble with their spouses.
Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
We can seek to live according to the law, or we can seek to be Holy and live a Sanctified life unto God.
https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/holiness/
https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionaries/eastons-bible-dictionary/sanctification.html
https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...-longer-need-to-keep-the-law-of-moses.185392/
As this long thread goes, the ascended Christ never told the 12 that the Law of Moses has been nailed to the cross.
So imagine their reaction when a former prosecutor of believers came to them, claiming that the ascended Christ told him privately that believers no longer need to follow the Law. No one could verify it except himself.
Put yourself in the shoes of Peter, James and John and you will behave exactly as what they would have done. That is the transitional period.
And Posthuman has made the point that I was trying to show you.
Peter wasn't skilled enough, and didn't understand enough, to say at that time that the law of Moses is not needed.
It didn't occur to anyone that the law of Moses was over with at that time. It wasn't until people started receiving Revelations of Christ that people started understanding that the Law of Moses was over.
It didn't occur to me right away. And I've never even practiced Judaism, apart from trying to work at the 10 commandments.
I had to be shown that following Christ, being a Christian, resting in Christ, would not be the cause of breaking any commandments, and is in fact the ONLY cause of being able to keep them. Not by working but by resting in Christ.
2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
The Lord said it. They just didn't have the capability to understand. Until they were given the capability to understand.
They weren't preaching another gospel. They were preaching that part that they understood.
What part were they preaching? The death, burial or resurrection...that’s the gospel unto salvation.
They didn’t understand the gospel because God hid it from them until after it happened. If Satan understood the gospel beforehand, he would have never initiated the cross to happen. If he would’ve known that through the cross, Jesus would gain the victory, he would have done everything in his power to make sure the promised seed (Genesis 3:15) was not destroyed.
That's what I just said. I said they didn't have a complete understanding. Until they were GIVEN a complete understanding.
Acts 4:10-12
10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Is any of this against the Gospel? No.
Is it the WHOLE Gospel? Again, no. But its a really good start.
This was after the resurrection and their minds were opened. Before they were preaching Israel’s messiah and how Jesus came to fulfill God’s promise of restoring Israel’s kingdom, not that this Messiah would die for them first.