I believe your position is not solidly rooted in Scripture, diminishes the humanity of Jesus, undermines His accomplishment in conquering sin, and leaves us with neither example nor power to overcome sin in our own lives.
Flesh (Old Man) VS Spirit (New Man): Difficult Scriptures explained by Pastor Ralph Arnold
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Dino,
thank you so much for the correction, we appreciate it, we realized after you quoted our post that we had
'mis-typed' what we were meaning to say -
of course we KNOW what MATT. 4 and other scriptures say, and believe them!
...just want to make this very clear; , IF we are understanding you correctly in that you are saying that
Jesus Christ could be a sinner?? (Tested & Tried) for sure, but a (Partaker)??? NEVER!!!
both of us in no way believe that God could sin or take-on a man's sin-nature...
a good way to analyze this question is, let us question ourselves, whether we think/believe
that Jesus Christ/God, could inherit His Mother Mary's sin-nature - or, did God's nature, nullify it???
I believe we agree.=============================================================
Dino,
thank you so much for the correction, we appreciate it, we realized after you quoted our post that we had
'mis-typed' what we were meaning to say -
of course we KNOW what MATT. 4 and other scriptures say, and believe them!
just want to make this very clear; , IF we are understanding you correctly in that you are saying that
Jesus Christ could be a sinner?? (Tested & Tried) for sure, but a (Partaker)??? NEVER!!!
both of us in no way believe that God could sin or take-on a man's sin-nature...
I don't think that Jesus did inherit the "sin nature" but to me, that is a different question than "Could Jesus have committed sin".
Blain, Thank you for your comment and input, it is appreciated.
Well the thing to also keep in mind regarding this issue, is that we do have three enemies, the world, the flesh and the devil. And so even if our old fleshly sin nature were eradicated in this life, we would still have the world and the devil to contend with. But because our old sin nature is not eradicated in this life, it just means that we still naturally have a propensity toward sin, and toward sinning.
Indeed brother Blain, the New Nature resides within every born again believer and child of God. This is why we now have the capability of living holy and walking in the Spirit. If we yield to the Holy Spirit in our lives then we can live the victorious Christian life. But if we do not yield to the Spirit but yield to the flesh, then we will sin.
And the sinless perfection teaching that we can be sinlessly perfect in this life is indeed a heresy. Sinless perfection will only be attained when we receive our New Glorified body at the Rapture/Resurrection.
That dream you had is very interesting. Here is something to consider, Brother Blain. Regarding our Position in Christ, Our Standing, we have no sin, since all of our sin has been imputed unto Christ. However though, in our flesh, in regard to our State, we still do have sin. And of course we still do have the sin nature. Only our Standing (Position) and our New Man is completely perfect and without sin, since it is born of God (1 John 3:9) and born also of the Holy Scripture (1 Pet. 1:23). And God and His word, the Holy Scripture, do not have any sin. They are pure, perfect, holy and just and good.
Now concerning your question, regarding our new nature being the true us. I will say this, Blain. I believe that God only views us in regard to our New Man (New Nature). This is why all throughout the New Testament, Paul refers to every believer as a Saint. Have you ever head the big debate on whether we are Saints or Sinners saved by Grace???
Well in regard to our Old Sin Nature, Our Flesh, we are still sinners. But again, God does not view us in regard to our Old Man. God views us in regard to our Standing (New Man). And so since we are Saints, and this is how God views us, we should therefore live as Saints. In other words, our Practice Ought to Line up with our Position. Since we are Saints, we ought to walk and live as Saints and not live like Sinners.
But once again, regarding your question, Blain. Our New and True Identity in Jesus Christ is our New Man. For the Scripture saith, If any man be in Christ, he is a New Creature. Old Things are passed away, and behold, all things our become New. (2 Cor. 5:17). And so we should definitely live in accordance with our New Identity in Christ and how God sees us. We are New Creatures in Christ.
Regarding your last question, the reason why we still have Sin in our flesh, is because when we were born into this world, that was our first birth, and we were born with a Sin Nature. Hence, the first birth is a fleshly birth. And this first birth will one day die since that which is of the flesh is flesh.
But our Second Birth (New Birth) can never die. Since our New Birth doth not commit sin (see 1 John 3:9). And that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit. And our New Birth is of God and of His Holy word. I hope this post of mine helped, brother. And thanks again for your comment and questions.
Indeed Throughfaith, it really is. I have seen how the works based salvation false doctrine and leaven has permeated much of the world of Christendom and many of the denominations, even the ones who profess that they believe that Salvation is by Grace through Faith.
It is sad when a Christian gets bewitched by the modern day Judaizers and those who say we must keep the Law to be saved or to stay justified.