FLAT EARTH

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Seedz said:
I believe it because I have vast technical and engineering knowledge that has allowed me to research the mechanics of what the globe system is. I have then compared those findings to a flat earth model, and what the globe system revealed was a lot of holes in the globe claim.

The globe theory is only valid because of Newtons gravity.

Newtons THEORY of gravity takes into account that the mass of the earth has been calculated.

To calculate any mass of any object you must know the density.

To know the density of an object you must first know the qualities of said object.

The earth is huge, we have only drilled 8 miles deep in all of history in one place.

We have no idea as to what the whole earth is made from.

There is water, sand, dirt, clay, rock, tress, among a bunch of other materials that we can see, let alone what we cant see under ground.

How do you expect me to believe that the density calculation was accurate over 400 years ago??

The G constant used in pretty much any gravitational calculation came about using the mass of the earth that was calculated from a BS source.

Do you see where this is going?

If the G constant has fake data built into it, then the whole theory falls and the claim is impossible. This is not science, it is BS!!

Are you telling me that 400 years ago they knew the density of the earth and that equipment of today confirmed this??

They used to believe bleeding people made them healthy....... What has modern science found out?

Do you realize also that the same people pushing evolution are the same people pushing the globe?????

THE ENEMY HAS THE WORLD IN ITS GRIP. THE PRINCE OF THIS WORLD IS DECEIVING EVEN THE ELECT.

Open the eyes of your heart. Ask the Lord our God for wisdom and liberally he will give it!
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No, Newton's Theory of gravity takes into account the mass of ANY TWO bodies. Try studying it some more. I would like to see your own math. Are you really some kind of engineer? Have you studied Principia in depth? You would then also know that Newton's work in this area was pretty much superceded by Einstein's work. Are you familiar with any of that? Does fluid mechanics ring a bell? Have you studied any of that regarding polar ice, the oceans, magma, etc.? And yes, Newton was pretty accurate 400+ years ago for what he had to work with. I would like to see your own theory and calculations. Please post it.
 
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Where do rockets go? Anyone can watch a lift off.. do they land in some unknown place and relaunch later to fool a 'coming home'?


Satan lies about us being nothing in the grand scheme but his focus is on sin, separation

Not on creation..

Unless you can provide scripture where Satan fooled someone into questioning creation and it resulted in their demise
 
tourist said:
I've done all of these things and my conclusion is that the earth is round.
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I don't think you have looked enough.

Or maybe you are too comfortable to know the truth.

I don't blame you.

The word of God warns us of deception and evil powers.

You keep denying that the word of God could actually be true when it comes to these statements.


The fact that you are on this very thread rooting for the globe either shows that you have doubts of the globe, or you desperately want to protect it.
 
Musicus said:
No, Newton's Theory of gravity takes into account the mass of ANY TWO bodies. Try studying it some more. I would like to see your own math. Are you really some kind of engineer? Have you studied Principia in depth? You would then also know that Newton's work in this area was pretty much superceded by Einstein's work. Are you familiar with any of that? Does fluid mechanics ring a bell? Have you studied any of that regarding polar ice, the oceans, magma, etc.? And yes, Newton was pretty accurate 400+ years ago for what he had to work with. I would like to see your own theory and calculations. Please post it.
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Yes I am familiar with Principia Mathematica.

Are you familiar with The incompleteness Theorem?? LOL

If you were, then using PM to entrap me wasn't the brightest idea.


Einstein is another sham.... You guys are not ready for any of this.
 
Musicus said:
No, Newton's Theory of gravity takes into account the mass of ANY TWO bodies. Try studying it some more. I would like to see your own math. Are you really some kind of engineer? Have you studied Principia in depth? You would then also know that Newton's work in this area was pretty much superceded by Einstein's work. Are you familiar with any of that? Does fluid mechanics ring a bell? Have you studied any of that regarding polar ice, the oceans, magma, etc.? And yes, Newton was pretty accurate 400+ years ago for what he had to work with. I would like to see your own theory and calculations. Please post it.
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Yeah 2 bodies with a definitive KNOWN mass.

Mass of the earth is not possible to be calculated because of the density issue,
nevermind the center of mass issue that would make it impossible for the earth to spin the way it does.
 
Zi said:
Where do rockets go? Anyone can watch a lift off.. do they land in some unknown place and relaunch later to fool a 'coming home'?


Satan lies about us being nothing in the grand scheme but his focus is on sin, separation

Not on creation..

Unless you can provide scripture where Satan fooled someone into questioning creation and it resulted in their demise
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If the goal is separation, and we humans need prove of anything to believe then what better way to create disbelief in Creator God than to undermine his creation and making it seem insignificant.
 
Seedz said:
I don't think you have looked enough.

Or maybe you are too comfortable to know the truth.

I don't blame you.

The word of God warns us of deception and evil powers.

You keep denying that the word of God could actually be true when it comes to these statements.


The fact that you are on this very thread rooting for the globe either shows that you have doubts of the globe, or you desperately want to protect it.
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It would not hurt my feelings in the least if it were proven that the earth is flat. I really don't care either way. The preponderance of evidence has made it obvious that the earth is round, if it were the other way around I would believe that it's flat.
 
tourist said:
Only thing that I know about Newton was that one day an apple fell from a tree and hit him on the head while he was pondering the meaning of the universe.
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They taught you fairy tales as fact.
 
tourist said:
It would not hurt my feelings in the least if it were proven that the earth is flat. I really don't care either way. The preponderance of evidence has made it obvious that the earth is round, if it were the other way around I would believe that it's flat.
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And you got this evidence from.....??
 
Seedz said:
Have you seen an image produced by your telescope that resembles an actual satellite? Or was it just a spec of light??

Electricity is real, go stick a fork in an outlet and let me know what happens.


Newton was contracted by the lying government of his day to implement the whole BS theory of gravity. Reason why they chose him for the job was because he was known for his math skills and no one was going to question a "genius" and they all would blindly believe his claim.
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I actually saw the satellites, and the Sea of Tranquility on the moon, and they weren't pictures taped to the lens; I checked.(and at a Naval observatory once I saw one of the American flags; pretty cool).

Electricity is a scam, perpetrated by the Guv to bilk worthless $ out of you. It's really a by-product of the REAL gravity, given off by the flat Earth, and is extracted from Zulu waves, and anyone could tap it for free, except the Guv won't divulge the secret formula, kept in a kryptonite vault at the bottom of the world. They came up with the fake 'shock' thing as a safeguard to keep people from finding out that it's harmless, because then they would find out how to extract it themselves.
 
Musicus said:
I actually saw the satellites, and the Sea of Tranquility on the moon, and they weren't pictures taped to the lens; I checked.(and at a Naval observatory once I saw one of the American flags; pretty cool).

Electricity is a scam, perpetrated by the Guv to bilk worthless $ out of you. It's really a by-product of the REAL gravity, given off by the flat Earth, and is extracted from Zulu waves, and anyone could tap it for free, except the Guv won't divulge the secret formula, kept in a kryptonite vault at the bottom of the world. They came up with the fake 'shock' thing as a safeguard to keep people from finding out that it's harmless, because then they would find out how to extract it themselves.
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OK, whos side are you on?

I think this proves you are a troll..
 
Seedz said:
I believe it because I have vast technical and engineering knowledge that has allowed me to research the mechanics of what the globe system is. I have then compared those findings to a flat earth model, and what the globe system revealed was a lot of holes in the globe claim.

The globe theory is only valid because of Newtons gravity.

Newtons THEORY of gravity takes into account that the mass of the earth has been calculated.

To calculate any mass of any object you must know the density.

To know the density of an object you must first know the qualities of said object.
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perhaps your vast knowledge isn't quite vast enough:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavendish_experiment
 
Musicus said:
I would like to see your own theory and calculations. Please post it.
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when we recently had that solar eclipse pass across north america exactly as predicted by the modern heliocentric solar system model, i asked the flats to point me to a fritata model of the planet that could predict the event with anything close to the same precision - because i am unaware of any flat model that predicts any eclipse with any accuracy whatsoever - and you know, for a few months the 2-d guys were very quiet.

i guess they figure by now enough time has passed that they think we've forgotten what we saw in the sky?

anyhow yeah i'm still waiting for any working model from these guys. been waiting more than 20 years since i first talked to people who spread this stuff. no banana.
 
Seedz said:
I suggest you look into the mechanics of this.

Your wikipedia referencing skills won't work here.

Think about what I mean and then get back to me if you would like to discuss.
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oh, "youtube or it didn't happen" ?

ok.

[video=youtube;Mcg2h--JDv4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcg2h--JDv4[/video]
 
posthuman said:

when we recently had that solar eclipse pass across north america exactly as predicted by the modern heliocentric solar system model, i asked the flats to point me to a fritata model of the planet that could predict the event with anything close to the same precision - because i am unaware of any flat model that predicts any eclipse with any accuracy whatsoever - and you know, for a few months the 2-d guys were very quiet.

i guess they figure by now enough time has passed that they think we've forgotten what we saw in the sky?

anyhow yeah i'm still waiting for any working model from these guys. been waiting more than 20 years since i first talked to people who spread this stuff. no banana.
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Do you realize the shadow was way smaller than what it should have been for it to be the moons shadow?

NASA has a ludicrous explanation for this.

Have you ever wondered that maybe there are other celestial bodies that are invisible to us that can be a better explanation for this?

These celestial bodies regardless of their visibility would be possible to be tracked.

I don't claim to have all the answers, but I do know that this world we live on is much more super natural than any of you rationalists think it to be.
 
posthuman said:
oh, "youtube or it didn't happen" ?

ok.

[video=youtube;Mcg2h--JDv4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcg2h--JDv4[/video]
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I am not saying that this isn't indeed a true phenomenon.

what I am saying is that this doesn't prove gravity.
 
Seedz said:
Yes I am familiar with Principia Mathematica.

Are you familiar with The incompleteness Theorem?? LOL

If you were, then using PM to entrap me wasn't the brightest idea.


Einstein is another sham.... You guys are not ready for any of this.
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Yep, I'm familiar enough with Gödel's ideas to follow just about anything you want to throw out here. You're on the right track if you want to try to disprove global theory.
 
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