Ezekiel 14:14 A scary thought for America.

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JohnB

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Eli1

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No.
‘America is pretty good in terms of faith compared to other countries.
 

JohnB

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No.
‘America is pretty good in terms of faith compared to other countries.
We are the most blessed country yet we have squandered GOD's blessings. To whom more is given, more is required.
 

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Much like America, the Amorites occupied a land "flowing with milk and honey." YHWH withheld his judgement against them for four generations because their sin "...has not yet reached its full measure". Our most patient creator also told Abraham that for the sake of ten he would not destroy Sodom. The Amorites were displaced and Sodom destroyed. God is no fool.
 
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“Son of man, if a land sins against Me by acting unfaithfully, and I stretch out My hand against it to cut off its supply of food, to send famine upon it, and to cut off from it both man and beast, then even if these three men— Noah, Daniel, and Job— were in it, their righteousness could deliver only themselves, declares the Lord GOD. Ezekiel 14:14....... Has America reached this point?
I think the USA is beyond that point! :eek:

I grew up being taught a pretribuational rapture, which included the Holy Spirit as the "restrainer" in 2 Thess 2 being removed from earth when the "rapture" occurred and the church was taken to heaven.

Well, I grew up and learned about the Berean study method; to search the Scriptures to see if what (whoever) said something was also said in the Bible.

Well, there are no verses about a pretrib rapture back to heaven. So there's that.

So, let's take a look at 2 Thess 2-

1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters,

This verse tells us precisely the timing of when living believers are given glorified bodies; at the Second Advent.

The "coming" of the Lord is a reference to the Second Advent. We know this because the OT prophecied two advents. The first was about His birth and ministry and the second advent will be His return to earth as King of kings and Lord of lords, to reign in His Millennial Kingdom.

So, every reference in the NT to the "coming of the Lord" means the Second Advent. So we read in 2 Thess 2:1 Paul mentioning the Second Advent AND "our being gathered together with Him". That occurs at the Second Advent. That is when all believers receive glorified bodies. But none go to heaven, since the Second Advent begins the Millennial Reign of King Jesus.

6 And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time.
7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way.

Many think this is a reference to the Holy Spirit, but can't be since believers will still be on earth during the Tribulation.

Rather, the restrainer is a reference to moral government that keeps evil governments at bay. So, iow, when there is no moral government left, there will be no restraint on the evil governments on earth.

Evil governments are those who are communists, marxists, socialists, or fascists. All of them hate Christianity, and the Jews, showing that these governments are of Satan.

With the present administration, which is demonstrably marxist, there is no more moral government on earth, able to restrain any of the evil governments.

I believe that this is the entry into the Tribulation. And, in fact, a study of Rev 6 and the first 4 seal judgments, has begun.
 

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Has America reached this point?
If we haven't reached that point as of yet, we seem to be very close. What is wrong is good; what is good is wrong.

Those who belong to the Devil will flourish, but the Lord's Holy Elect will suffer. If you feel that you are under Spiritual attack, that is the evidence that you are likely Saved. Consider yourself blessed and be Eternally grateful!
 

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I will send fire on Magog and on those who live in safety in the coastlands, and they will know that I am the LORD. Ezekiel 39:6. The word Coastland can mean a distance land. We have the Yellowstone volcano. There are warning signs.
 

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“Son of man, if a land sins against Me by acting unfaithfully, and I stretch out My hand against it to cut off its supply of food, to send famine upon it, and to cut off from it both man and beast, then even if these three men— Noah, Daniel, and Job— were in it, their righteousness could deliver only themselves, declares the Lord GOD. Ezekiel 14:14....... Has America reached this point?
in the Bible you see repetitively nations rose to power turn against God and fall to destruction

Egypt , Babylon , Persia , Greece , Rome ……in more recent ages China , Great Britain , Germany …..America

America will fall eventually it’s a repetitive thing in the earth men of a powerful nation rise to dominion , turn against the creator , fall to destruction and another rises

this will continue until Christ returns

As an old man I’ve seen America change over the decades I remember back when they taught Bible in public schools , creation rather than evolution morality was taught in school things like transgenderism , homosexual marriage , abortion , on and on we’re understood as sinful against gods will and abominations in his sight .

I have watched over the decades americas moral fiber disintegrate with the love for Gods word

I love this country , but I’m awe fully sad for what we’ve become and there’s no sign of us slowing down the spiral

I think we are right on the doorstep for a huge fall and shift in the world order it’s nearing time for one to fall and another to rise but I believe the next to rise will be the last
 

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It seem every country is sinking like a liking ships waiting to sink
 

Jackson123

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This topic remind me about my dream.

I don’t say this dream is from the Lord but it seem tell about what is happening now

in my dream a saw a ships from distance, the ship is sinking, but people in not aware, so I come to the ships and saw people in play card, chatting and don’t know what going on
i tell them what I saw from distance that your ships is sinking, but every body ignore and keep do what their do, play card etc

when I am a wake, and think about my dream, come to my mind that it is like what happen now
people don’t think about the destruction to come, keep do what they want to do as usual and ignore the God moral limits
they never Believe it mean punishment to come
 

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In the Book of Daniel, all human governments are represented by beast. This is how GOD see human government. I have told Christians, there may come a time when we'll be begging GOD to judge America.
 

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in the Bible you see repetitively nations rose to power turn against God and fall to destruction

Egypt , Babylon , Persia , Greece , Rome ……in more recent ages China , Great Britain , Germany …..America

America will fall eventually it’s a repetitive thing in the earth men of a powerful nation rise to dominion , turn against the creator , fall to destruction and another rises

this will continue until Christ returns

As an old man I’ve seen America change over the decades I remember back when they taught Bible in public schools , creation rather than evolution morality was taught in school things like transgenderism , homosexual marriage , abortion , on and on we’re understood as sinful against gods will and abominations in his sight .

I have watched over the decades americas moral fiber disintegrate with the love for Gods word

I love this country , but I’m awe fully sad for what we’ve become and there’s no sign of us slowing down the spiral

I think we are right on the doorstep for a huge fall and shift in the world order it’s nearing time for one to fall and another to rise but I believe the next to rise will be the last

There is a remnant here , and we see Him working stronger and more powerfully every day here in these days. There is much to hope for.:):coffee:(y):unsure:
 

JohnB

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This is why I don't understand pastors supporting any party or politician. They forget Jesus warned not to get entangled in the affairs of this world. When the dominos start to fall, they could bring you down with them.
 

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“Son of man, if a land sins against Me by acting unfaithfully, and I stretch out My hand against it to cut off its supply of food, to send famine upon it, and to cut off from it both man and beast, then even if these three men— Noah, Daniel, and Job— were in it, their righteousness could deliver only themselves, declares the Lord GOD. Ezekiel 14:14....... Has America reached this point?
Many in America have certainly turned against teaching and studying God's word and keeping His commands. You can see how things have been turned upside down in a short period of time. It will take a national repentance to get the Lord to straighten things out.
 

shittim

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As great a scripture as that is, Jesus told us in Him, "all things are new". We each must now follow His leading, as in John 16.
best wishes
 
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Judgement day is coming near future. I know what I'm talking about, I'm one of God's Zadok, elect. I have neighbors who hate me because I have holy spirit, they want it too. Jealousy is bad news. Ezekiel 34:17. Or of I bring sword upon the land and say, sword go through the land; so that I cut off man and beast. Leviticus 26:25. And I will bring a sword upon land, that shall avenge the quarrel of My covenant:and when you gather together within your cities, I will send a pestilence among you; and ye shall be delivered into the hand of the enemy. Punishment for disobedience. Blessings and curses by God. How about the aides virus? Or covid 19 pestilence? Hurricane ian devastated Florida, Puerto rico and south Carolina.? How bad is crime in our nation? The police just caught suspect in California, Stockton, who was on a mission to kill. July 2022, a young man killed many in Texas school. North Carolina, another man killed people. List goes on and on. Not to mention a drug epidemic in our nation. Yes, our nation is going to hell in basket. Were at the third stage in leviticus. 26:27. And if ye will not for this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto Me.; 26:28. Then I will walk contrary to you also in Fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins. I personally don't think it will go to stage 4. What is coming near future, is satan in his role as antichrist. Many people are biblically illiterate and defenseless. Theirs rampant false preachers every where. Theirs moral degeneration in our nation, and its getting worse and its bringing Gods judgement. Lot of people wont repent sins to God and turned their backs to God. Hurricane ian and fiona should paint a clear picture. I'm a steward of Jesus, I did my delivering the message. If anyone doesn't agree, Who Cares!.
 
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“Son of man, if a land sins against Me by acting unfaithfully, and I stretch out My hand against it to cut off its supply of food, to send famine upon it, and to cut off from it both man and beast, then even if these three men— Noah, Daniel, and Job— were in it, their righteousness could deliver only themselves, declares the Lord GOD. Ezekiel 14:14....... Has America reached this point?
Praise God, for he has shown this to you. Yes, America has reached this point.
 

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Yep.
But God is gracious and is patient for long times. This dont mean his patience isnt wearing thin, so to speak.
This is why I pray as it is written in the Psalms.

Those who trust in the Lord Are like Mount Zion, Which cannot be moved, but abides forever. As the mountains surround Jerusalem, So the Lord surrounds His people From this time forth and forever. For the scepter of wickedness shall not rest On the land allotted to the righteous, Lest the righteous reach out their hands to iniquity. Do good, O Lord, to those who are good, And to those who are upright in their hearts. As for such as turn aside to their crooked ways, The Lord shall lead them away With the workers of iniquity. Peace be upon Israel!
Psalms 125:1‭-‬5 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/psa.125.1-5.NKJV
 

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“Son of man, if a land sins against Me by acting unfaithfully, and I stretch out My hand against it to cut off its supply of food, to send famine upon it, and to cut off from it both man and beast, then even if these three men— Noah, Daniel, and Job— were in it, their righteousness could deliver only themselves, declares the Lord GOD. Ezekiel 14:14....... Has America reached this point?
We are in the age of grace... That does not mean the age of grace is soon to come to an end.. Yes God will pour out his wrath upon the earth during the times of the return of Jesus.. But the story of Sodom and Galmoragh Moses talked with God and found out that God will withhold His wrath if there is a righteous person in a city, even when the rest of the people in the city as as evil as people can be..

On the day of the return of Jesus those who are righteous will be raptured / caught up to meet the returning LORD in the air similar to the angels who came to Sodom and bring Lot out of Sodom..
 
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God was very patient with them to see if they would turn back, but they refused. Now the Lord has stood up in the strength of his power and he will break the power of this nation whose people love wickedness and abhor the righteous. Many eyes here will see it, it is not a far thing in the future, it is now. The kingdom of God is at hand, the axe is laid to the root.