Eternal Security/OSAS is Bad Doctrine

[dcontroversal]

I'm new here. I don't appreciate your rude and spiteful treatment. Not that you would care.

Maybe you have a hard time reading?

I said -->MY BAD.......replied to wrong person .....sorry

 

[Sketch]

Maybe you have a hard time reading?

I said -->MY BAD.......replied to wrong person .....sorry

Still rude and spiteful.
This doesn't explain the Ralph and PHart business.

 

[dcontroversal]

OK D,
You don't want to dance...
fine.
Just IGNORE me and let me do my postings.
You seem to be everywhere I go, not because you're following me but because we're both interested in faith and works and cannot agree.

No hard feelings.

Sorry...cannot ignore you Fran.....anytime Jesus is devalued by a worker for that blends the gospel into a cafe blend working for dogma to remain saved I will have to reply........

 

[dcontroversal]

Still rude and spiteful.
This doesn't explain the Ralph and PHart business.

Does not need to....I did not address it to you and don't be so easily offended and or read in any motive or attitude to mere words on a page.......

 

[dcontroversal]

I see Sketch vacillates like a wave on Bondi Beach.......gives a negative response to my post to Fran above bolded below, yet posts the following in my works thread....WHICH IS IT SKETCH.......

Sorry...cannot ignore you Fran.....anytime Jesus is devalued by a worker for that blends the gospel into a cafe blend working for dogma to remain saved I will have to reply........

"Sketch, p[/B]ost: 3753152, member: 276907"]That's good, I agree.
I would like to add one for consideration. This one goes a step further.
Not only does God not save us according to our "good" works, he saves us
in spite of our "bad" works, or even the total lack of works.

Romans 4:4-5
Now to the one who works, wages are not credited as a gift but as an obligation. 5 However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness.

 

[Sketch]

...but I am going to go ahead and put you on ignore. Nothing good comes from dialog with one who twists my words, others words. You're still the same...

See ya under your next moniker!

More lies. (rating my posts is not ignoring me)

 

[Sketch]

I see Sketch vacillates like a wave on Bondi Beach.......gives a negative response to my post to Fran above bolded below, yet posts the following in my works thread....WHICH IS IT SKETCH.......

Sorry...cannot ignore you Fran.....anytime Jesus is devalued by a worker for that blends the gospel into a cafe blend working for dogma to remain saved I will have to reply........

I wanted to be friends. You have decided to make me your enemy with your rude, spiteful, and vengeful behavior.

 

[dcontroversal]

I wanted to be friends. You have decided to make me your enemy with your rude, spiteful, and vengeful behavior.

Not hardly.......you are just easily offended and I treated you fairly until you started ripping me today with a totally different attitude than what you had yesterday....go back and read ALL of our exchanges and be honest...I said nothing rude to you until you got mouthy......it is there for all to see....

 

[Sketch]

You have too many conspiracies floating around in your head HA

If that is true then why do you refuse to explain the Ralph and PHart thing? Put on your tin foil hat and tell us all about it.

 

[Lafftur]

Sketch seems a bit sketchy to me........

 

[dcontroversal]

Sketch seems a bit sketchy to me........

HEY LAFFY what up HA

 

[Sketch]

No offence Fran, but don't you owe us all an apology for the behavior that got you banned the first time??? and WHY are you not like this with everyone.....

Why would Fran owe you an apology if there were natural consequesnces already given and the debt was paid? Like that wasn't enough for you? Still looking for a pound of flesh? Sounds like unforgiveness.

 

[dcontroversal]

Why would Fran owe you an apology if there were natural consequesnces already given and the debt was paid? Like that wasn't enough for you? Still looking for a pound of flesh? Sounds like unforgiveness.

I am not out for anything....she went out the last time in flames and said some very serious things that = getting banned....I like Fran....do not care for her dogma, but have no issue with her per se.....and please make no mistake....regardless of any who may or may not apologize for anything they have done...I hold no grudges and or am I past any ability to forgive.....maybe if you went and read her last page or two in my works thread that she posted.......??

AND I did not just indicate ME....I said US ALL...........just as I have a few times when I went overboard...I apologized to ALL....

 

[Sketch]

I am not out for anything....she went out the last time in flames and said some very serious things that = getting banned....I like Fran....do not care for her dogma, but have no issue with her per se.....and please make no mistake....regardless of any who may or may not apologize for anything they have done...I hold no grudges and or am I past any ability to forgive.....maybe if you went and read her last page or two in my works thread that she posted.......??

AND I did not just indicate ME....I said US ALL...........just as I have a few times when I went overboard...I apologized to ALL....

So, you are the better person because you have never been banned? Is that what you are saying? I have no concerns about Fran. I do have some about you. In fact, Fran was kind to me when you were being rude. What does that say about you?

 

[dcontroversal]

So, you are the better person because you have never been banned? Is that what you are saying? I have no concerns about Fran. I do have some about you. In fact, Fran was kind to me when you were being rude. What does that say about you?

Look.....if all you can do is post accusations or assumptions without facts, please feel free to not address me.....

 

[Sketch]

Look.....if all you can do is post accusations or assumptions without facts, please feel free to not address me.....

Are you claiming you have not been rude to me? As if it is a false accusation.
I know you don't care, but at least be honest. (pal)

 

[Argueless]

AMEN.....why is it so hard to see this context and truth.......For salvation to be able to be lost or forfeit in any way, the words which apply unto salvation MUST be ignored, swept under the table, denied, and rejected. The same words that contradict a salvation that can be lost, forfeit and or revoked are as follows...

a. SAVED to the UTTERMOST
b. The gifts of GOD are IRREVOCABLE
c. The words used to describe the life given in salvation is eternal, everlasting and without end.
d. The word used to describe the JUSTIFICATION (rendered innocent) in Christ is ETERNALLY
e. The word used to describe our positional sanctification is Christ is Eternal
f. The sealing in CHRIST by the HOLY SPIRIT is UNTO the DAY OF REDEMPTION
g. We are KEPT "saved" by the POWER OF GOD THROUGH FAITH
h. Christ is the source of said saving faith <--HE SAID HE WILL finish the good work of faith he began in us

and on and on and on!

JESUS must not only FAIL, but be found inept and untruthful for salvation to be lost or forfeit in any way shape or form. HE SAID...

I WILL never LEAVE thee or FORSAKE THEE
I WILL LOSE NOTHING...but RAISE IT UP THE LAST DAY
NOTHING can separate us from the LOVE OF GOD
AS the good shepherd he will LEAVE the 99 to find the one that wanders off

"Provided that you CONTINUE in His kindness."

 

[Lafftur]

HEY LAFFY what up HA

Hi dc,

I’m just enjoying all the entertainment! Lol!

How are you?!

 

[dcontroversal]

"Provided that you CONTINUE in His kindness."

NAAAAAAAA....it is his work....he keeps me by his power!

 

[UnderGrace]

Conditional Security a very bad DOCTRINE.

Why?

It is God who Promises us.......NOT We who Promise Him!

There..... the debate is over!