Essential Christian Doctrines

[Psalm1]

You can "add", but it doesn't mean that I will agree. Every Christian Church worships in their own way. Are you saying if they don't worship your way they aren't Christian?

True worship is adoration of God.
Without it, what is left?
Mental, robotic, "bible" based "outer court" followers hanging around the cross.
True Christianity is getting oneself on the cross.

 

[reneweddaybyday]

You can "add", but it doesn't mean that I will agree.

thank you.

Every Christian Church worships in their own way. Are you saying if they don't worship your way they aren't Christian?

not saying what you imply ... I am only pointing out that worship is an essential practice in the church.

I believe worship prepares the hearts and minds of the believers to receive the Word of God taught from the pulpit. There are many, many verses in Scripture which encourage us to worship and praise God in music/song ... and in all actuality, we should worship God every single day in songs, and hymns, and spiritual songs ... singing and making melody in our hearts to the Lord.

Ephesians 5:17-20 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is. And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit; Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ

I could also add the prayer is an essential practice.
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[NightTwister]

thank you.





not saying what you imply ... I am only pointing out that worship is an essential practice in the church.

I believe worship prepares the hearts and minds of the believers to receive the Word of God taught from the pulpit. There are many, many verses in Scripture which encourage us to worship and praise God in music/song ... and in all actuality, we should worship God every single day in songs, and hymns, and spiritual songs ... singing and making melody in our hearts to the Lord.

Ephesians 5:17-20 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is. And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit; Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ

I could also add the prayer is an essential practice.
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Essential "practice" isn't essential "doctrine." I don't know of any churches that don't worship God. Even non-Christians worship their god. The intent of this thread was to discuss essential doctrines; those that separate true Christianity from false.

 

[NightTwister]

True worship is adoration of God.
Without it, what is left?
Mental, robotic, "bible" based "outer court" followers hanging around the cross.
True Christianity is getting oneself on the cross.

"True worship" can mean a lot of different things. Is it singing hymns? With or without instrumentation? Is it only with a worship team, with or without lights and fog?

 

[Mem]

All people have an eternal spirit.
Whether in Christ or not.

There is scriptural evidence of eternal life, but I've never encountered that "all people have an eternal spirit."

 

[Psalm1]

"True worship" can mean a lot of different things. Is it singing hymns? With or without instrumentation? Is it only with a worship team, with or without lights and fog?

In the sold out believer, Prayer is worship and worship is prayer.

 

[Dino246]

Regarding the concept of “essential”:

Rejecting an essential doctrine separates the person from the Christian faith.

Having doubts, concerns, or needing to do more homework on a topic does not mean the person rejects it, but rather that they cannot accept it with a clear conscience.

 

[reneweddaybyday]

Essential "practice" isn't essential "doctrine." I don't know of any churches that don't worship God. Even non-Christians worship their god. The intent of this thread was to discuss essential doctrines; those that separate true Christianity from false.

apologies for diverting to practice.

hope/pray you have a blessed day.

Colossians 3:16-17 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
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[NightTwister]

In the sold out believer, Prayer is worship and worship is prayer.

I have no idea what this has to do with essential doctrines of the Christian faith.

 

[GWH]

All people have an eternal spirit.
Whether in Christ or not.

The souls of those in hell will be destroyed after justice is achieved.

 

[GWH]

I have no idea what this has to do with essential doctrines of the Christian faith.

Prayer is addressing God; no one is saved who ignores God and does not worship God.

 

[pinebeach]

Add:

Worship/Praise

John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Revelation 4:10-11 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

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Nope. Worship and or praise is what WE enact. The Bible does tell us how, but this is not a doctrine as per the op. Why though? Are you a worship leader or similar? Further, God IS Spirit. He is not one of many.

 

[pinebeach]

Not agreeing, nor disagreeing, but, in the context of "the Son," which is the man, Jesus, He has not been eternally existent, because "Jesus" was human.

I will humbly not agree that neither the Father, nor the Holy Spirit, be referred to as "persons."

God is Spirit, not a "person," except through the manifestation via Jesus Christ.

I understand the "Trinity Doctrine," I used to teach it, and even started writing a (what I thought was an undisputable) book confirming the existence of "three individuals sharing the same essence,."

That project only confirmed to me that God is One, as He often clearly stated, with no "separation" as often taught in that doctrine.

I don't perceive that there are "three individual persons," I see one God who has, as a single entity, reached down to us by becoming "God among us," or "God in the flesh," and still remaining an unseparated extension of our Creator.

I personally think that the entire concept of a trinity limits the fullness of Who God is and His Image.

Who is God speaking to in Genesis then and what is the Spirit hovering over the waters? So who is God speaking to while saying let US make man in OUR image?

 

[pinebeach]

True worship is adoration of God.
Without it, what is left?
Mental, robotic, "bible" based "outer court" followers hanging around the cross.
True Christianity is getting oneself on the cross.

oy

24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth. John 4

Outer court? So we just jump in and soak away?

 

[pinebeach]

Prayer is addressing God; no one is saved who ignores God and does not worship God.

Just determind to take this as far off course as you can until eveyrone assents to join you in your kery thread?

 

[pinebeach]

Probably the resurrection of Jesus is considered an esential doctrine of Christianity.

 

[BillyBob]

It's been 6 years since this was a topic, and there has been some discussion on other threads recently, so a new thread seems to make sense. What are the ESSENTIAL Christian doctrines? These are doctrines that divide us from other quasi-Christian religions (e.g. LDS, JW, etc.). I'll start things off with an edited list of Statement of Beliefs from my church on the essentials:

God
God is the Creator and Ruler of the universe. He has eternally existed in three persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. These three are co-equal and are one God.
Biblical References: Genesis 1:1, 26–27, 3:22; Psalm 90:2; Matthew 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14; 1 Peter 1:2

Jesus
Jesus Christ is the Son of God. He is co-equal with the Father. Jesus lived a sinless human life and offered himself as the perfect sacrifice by dying on the cross. He arose from the dead after three days to demonstrate His power over sin and death. He ascended to Heaven’s glory and will return again someday to claim His own and take them to that same Heaven.
‍Biblical References: Isaiah 9:6; Matthew 1:22–23; John 1:1–5; 14:10–30; Acts 1:9–11; Romans 1:3–4; 1 Corinthians 15:3,4; 1 Timothy 6:14–15; Titus 2:13; Hebrew 4:14–15

Holy Spirit
The Holy Spirit is co-equal with the Father and the Son. He is present in the world to make men aware of their need for Jesus Christ. He also lives in every Christian from the moment of salvation. He is our intercessor and provides the Christian with power for living, understanding of spiritual truth, and guidance in doing what is right.
‍Biblical References: John 14:16, 16:7–14, 17; Acts 1:8; Romans 8:26–27; 1 Corinthians 2:12, 3:16; 2 Corinthians 3:16–17; Galatians 5:25; Ephesians 1:13; 5:18

The Bible
The Bible is God’s Word to us. Human authors, under the supernatural guidance of the Holy Spirit, wrote it. It is the supreme source of truth for Christian beliefs and living. Because it is God inspired, it is the truth without any mixture or error.
‍Biblical References: Psalm 119:105, 160; Proverbs 30:5–6; Matthew 5:18; 2 Timothy 3:16–17; 1 Peter 1:25; 2 Peter 1:20–21, 3:15–16

Eternity
People were created to exist forever. We will either exist eternally separated from God by sin, or eternally with God through forgiveness and salvation. To be eternally separated from God is Hell. To be eternally in union with him is eternal life. Heaven and Hell are real places of eternal existence.
‍Biblical References: John 3:16; 14:17; Romans 6:23; 8:17–18; 1 Corinthians 2:7–9; Revelation 20:15

This should be a good starting point. Feel free to agree, disagree, modify, add, etc.

I believe that a true church must teach the word of God, exercise church discipline, and administer the sacraments of baptism and the Lord's Supper. The Lord's Supper is to be administered on a regular basis. Regular basis may mean [weekly, monthly, quarterly] etc... But it is not to be ignored.

 

[NightTwister]

Prayer is addressing God; no one is saved who ignores God and does not worship God.

Prayer isn't an essential "doctrine." It's an essential "practice."

 

[NightTwister]

I believe that a true church must teach the word of God, exercise church discipline, and administer the sacraments of baptism and the Lord's Supper. The Lord's Supper is to be administered on a regular basis. Regular basis may mean [weekly, monthly, quarterly] etc... But it is not to be ignored.

This is what I would call a non-essential doctrine, where true Christians can disagree. Christians differ on frequency, the elements (wine or grape juice), and even sacrament vs. ordinance.

 

[NightTwister]

Prayer is addressing God; no one is saved who ignores God and does not worship God.

Once again, practice vs. doctrine.