Epidemic of childless and miserable 40+ women

[southernf]

The look on Jordan Peterson's face says it all: "That's not happening!"

I just thank the Lord there are people that stand up to these crazies

 

[Moses_Young]

I hope that this post does not offend anyone who has chosen to be childless. I had an experience where my sister chose to be childless and I made the mistake of sharing my children's phone numbers with her. She actually tried to take over my family. It was a battle to get her out of their lives when she began causing trouble. She made the mistake of running me down to one of my children who went back at her when they saw what she was doing. She reminded me of that bird that goes around sitting on any nest of eggs it finds and sits in the nest of another bird's eggs.

It got me thinking about the number of young women who have chosen a career over a family. I looked it up and was shocked that psychologists have found great misery in 40 - something's who chose career instead of a family. That describes my sister. I tried to get her to adopt several times but she refused. I don't know why. I think she was in denial about it.

Has anyone else encountered these women or this type of situation?

You think there is an epidemic now? Wait until the effects of the Covid vaccine kick in, over the next 5+ years. I think there's going to be many more childless 40+ women. Think a Handmaid's Tale.

 

[TheIndianGirl]

You think there is an epidemic now? Wait until the effects of the Covid vaccine kick in, over the next 5+ years. I think there's going to be many more childless 40+ women. Think a Handmaid's Tale.

Is there evidence that the vaccine causes fertility issues? I only heard it may not be a good idea for pregnant/breastfeeding women to take it.

 

[surfer14]

I just thank the Lord there are people that stand up to these crazies

Jordan Peterson is a gatekeeper. Don't let your guard down. He is not our friend though he may give that impression. A true wolf in sheep's clothing.

 

[PC123]

Jordan Peterson is a gatekeeper. Don't let your guard down. He is not our friend though he may give that impression. A true wolf in sheep's clothing.

Are you saying that everything he says is false? Why?
I have found that much of what he says is true

 

[surfer14]

Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Dennis Prager - all gatekeepers. They say a lot of things that are indeed true. BUT, their role is to define the limits of acceptable speech and thought. They tell a certain amount of truth in order to buy credibility so that they can crush the pursuit of greater truth. All three are anti-christian scum working for the enemy of Christendom.

I'd anticipate you'll be asking for an example. Take a look at him in the video posted above. Peterson is saying that we shouldn't have to use crazy pronouns. But why? Peterson's rationale was that he shouldn't be forced to use certain words, so that's why he resists it. Sure. Great. But he intentionally leaves out the main point of the whole discussion - We call males "he" because no matter what surgeries, or medications, or lunacy is involved, a man will always be a "he" and a woman will always be a "she". That is exactly why these people make millions and rise to such prominence - because they're acting as opposition to, but really working for globo-homo. Anytime someone rises up high in fame and money very quickly, you can bet they've taken the "ticket" offered by their handlers. If you want truth, don't go to anyone that is famous and prominent. You only get to be famous and prominent by playing their game and following their rules. Instead, go talk to people that get deplatformed for what they say. Talk to people that go to jail for their speech. I'd trust them way more than I'd trust any of these three.

Jesus got executed for the things He said. So did Paul. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. All three of these gatekeepers (JP, BS, and DP), reject Jesus. All three reject truth and life because they reject Jesus.

 

[PC123]

If you want truth, don't go to anyone that is famous and prominent. You only get to be famous and prominent by playing their game and following their rules. Instead, go talk to people that get de-platformed for what they say.

Such as?

 

[surfer14]

Such as?

Of course the Bible should be at the top of this list. But even then, not all translations were created equally!

I made a list just now. But I deleted it because I think it's just too much for people to handle all at once. It takes time for the mind to accept things aren't the way that we've been taught since childhood.

So maybe just start with this guy. I still read vox quite a bit. Try not to get put off by tone or presentation. Try not to immediately conclude the guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Try to accept the idea that not all Christians see things the same.
https://voxday.blogspot.com/

Just know that there is no "red pill". It's more like a series of cascading scales that fall from your eyes over time. You only realize their existence as they fall off. One after another.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Is there evidence that the vaccine causes fertility issues?

It is not "the vaccine" but "the vaccines" (plural). All mRNA vaccines are bogus vaccines meant to trick your body into believing that coronavirus has entered. But since these injections are practically brand new, no one knows how they will affect fertility (which would require HONEST long term studies). However, since they are causing SERIOUS ADVERSE REACTIONS, including deaths, it is logical to assume that they could be very dangerous in other ways.

The fact of the matter is that flu vaccines were never 100% effective, more like 40%, possibly even less (since we cannot really trust anything published regarding vaccines). Therefore there was no need for a COVID vaccine (other than corporate greed). Cheap and effective remedies such as the HCQ combo pack and Ivermectin would have been more than enough. But how do you make billions from common remedies?

What everyone should understand now is that the general public will NEVER get the truth about the bogus COVID pandemic. The truth would mean the incarceration of hundreds of conspirators at the highest levels of government and public health services. A German lawyer is leading a movement to initiate Nuremberg-style trials for crimes against humanity by those who perpetrated this hoax on the world. Let's hope he (and the lawyers working with him) succeed.

 

[Katy]

I happened to read the article and then came across a talk about it on a Christian site and I wondered if others had seen this trend. But I used to pray for my sister every day for years. After she did that then I felt released from praying for her. I may begin again at some point.

The one article said that it's going to get even worse as more women opt for careers.

Being a woman of 40 without children, who works, I find you post hurtful. I work, not because I am choosing a career, but because I need to pay bills, keep a roof over my head and so forth...

After a myriad of health issues, and not finding a husband in my 20's a child hasn't happened for me/us. I mourn for a child everyday and have done so many years. An outsider would not know this and may view my childlessness as it being a choice because I have a career. And I choose not to share my story with everyone. It was not a choice though... It is a constant source of hurt. And your judgement, not to mention the judgement of a LOT of christians is another source of hurt and loneliness.

My point - you have NO IDEA of the hearts of these women. Be inclusive, don't leave them out as they are unmarried or childless or whatever. Like everyone, they deserve love free from judgement. Don't fail to invite these women to family dinners women's group and other family friendly events. These women are not statistics - they are humans in need of love.

 

[Tararose]

Being a woman of 40 without children, who works, I find you post hurtful. I work, not because I am choosing a career, but because I need to pay bills, keep a roof over my head and so forth...

After a myriad of health issues, and not finding a husband in my 20's a child hasn't happened for me/us. I mourn for a child everyday and have done so many years. An outsider would not know this and may view my childlessness as it being a choice because I have a career. And I choose not to share my story with everyone. It was not a choice though... It is a constant source of hurt. And your judgement, not to mention the judgement of a LOT of christians is another source of hurt and loneliness.

My point - you have NO IDEA of the hearts of these women. Be inclusive, don't leave them out as they are unmarried or childless or whatever. Like everyone, they deserve love free from judgement. Don't fail to invite these women to family dinners women's group and other family friendly events. These women are not statistics - they are humans in need of love.

Thank you for sharing, that can’t have been easy, but hopefully it makes people stop and think before casting judgements about things they cannot possibly know about.

Only the Lord knows the intents and heart of a person.

I know that you likely have heard all the things I could say to try and encourage you, but in short we all have a cross to bear, a trial to overcome and disappointments to face, whilst in the flesh and on the earth anyway.

God is still in the throne and somehow using this for your good, though it’s hard to see how at times I am sure. I pray you will be blessed abundantly and that your mourning turns to joy soon somehow, by God’s Grace xx

 

[Ann-Marie]

I only have one thing to add here. I think that some women do not want marriage or children for reasons none of us can understand. We think they are miserable, but maybe they are not.

I have a brother who is well over 40, very attractive (not my opinion only, but that of the many, many women who have wanted to marry him. I do not know the reason why he never wanted to marry or have children, but there it is.

We do not have a thread on that. He seems to be relatively happy and now has a girlfriend again. I only worry that she will be hurt IF she wants a commitment, because he cannot/does not do that. I actually tried many times to talk him into marriage, but I was wrong to do that. He must have his reasons. And it is his business, not mine.

It seems we believe that only women want marriage and children/but that may not be true.
To all women who are single & unmarried, and want children ... I am genuinely sorry for your pain. There are so many possible reasons why this happens. And, no, do not marry someone you do not love, just to get married. Only one reason to marry: because you love the person & you really want to make the commitment ... and the same goes for having children.

 

[Moses_Young]

Is there evidence that the vaccine causes fertility issues? I only heard it may not be a good idea for pregnant/breastfeeding women to take it.

Good practice in medicine (a.k.a. the precautionary principle) is that we don't use a drug until it has been proven safe, not that we use it until it has been proven unsafe.

A number of doctors have claimed the so-called vaccine has similar effects to sterilisation drugs. Obviously, as the vaccine is experimental, it's had to get conclusive proof yet that the drug causes sterility, but a number of women have had miscarriages soon after taking the vaccine. Given Dead-eyed Bill's proclivity to population control, the NWO conditional programming that most people will be unable to procreate in future, and the media reports that Covid-19 has some sort of reproductive effect (how would they even know yet?) I think it's a fairly safe bet the vaccine will cause sterility or as a minimum, retardation in children.

 

[SophieLee]

Being a woman of 40 without children, who works, I find you post hurtful. I work, not because I am choosing a career, but because I need to pay bills, keep a roof over my head and so forth...

After a myriad of health issues, and not finding a husband in my 20's a child hasn't happened for me/us. I mourn for a child everyday and have done so many years. An outsider would not know this and may view my childlessness as it being a choice because I have a career. And I choose not to share my story with everyone. It was not a choice though... It is a constant source of hurt. And your judgement, not to mention the judgement of a LOT of christians is another source of hurt and loneliness.

My point - you have NO IDEA of the hearts of these women. Be inclusive, don't leave them out as they are unmarried or childless or whatever. Like everyone, they deserve love free from judgement. Don't fail to invite these women to family dinners women's group and other family friendly events. These women are not statistics - they are humans in need of love.

Exactly agree with Katy. . Same here. experiencing shame and rejection in churches in such a matter Im not going anymore. As if we can choose to have a husband and children
Whoever says that. Wow. I'm 6'1. Oh men were interested. Sure they were. for all the wrong reasons... you opened up a can of worms, and my peacefully tucked away hurt. Lol. Thanks.

 

[Tararose]

Exactly agree with Katy. . Same here. experiencing shame and rejection in churches in such a matter Im not going anymore. As if we can choose to have a husband and children
Whoever says that. Wow. I'm 6'1. Oh men were interested. Sure they were. for all the wrong reasons... you opened up a can of worms, and my peacefully tucked away hurt. Lol. Thanks.

This is so sad, and why generalisations and passing casual and ignorant judgements on others is so dangerous.

I have experienced something similar as a divorced single mum. The assumptions come thick and fast at times. And people think they have the right to ask questions like - do they have the same father?-and this is when they hardly know me. Eek!

But please don’t wrap all believers up in the same cloak of self-righteousness, as you can see here there are many who don’t feel bias or assume the worst of singles. Take heart, we are all on a journey and none of us have tamed the tongue or mastered the flesh and the thought life yet.

Doesn’t mean many don’t genuinely care, despite the presumptions and ill manners of some. May God fill your life with compassionate believers and men who see you as a daughter of the king, and not a pair of long legs or whatever they get distracted by xx

 

[SophieLee]

I mean, I'm not hurt- hurt now if that makes any sense. Just wanted to bite off myself a bit, trying to make a point Thank you

 

[Katy]

Thank you for sharing, that can’t have been easy, but hopefully it makes people stop and think before casting judgements about things they cannot possibly know about.

Only the Lord knows the intents and heart of a person.

I know that you likely have heard all the things I could say to try and encourage you, but in short we all have a cross to bear, a trial to overcome and disappointments to face, whilst in the flesh and on the earth anyway.

God is still in the throne and somehow using this for your good, though it’s hard to see how at times I am sure. I pray you will be blessed abundantly and that your mourning turns to joy soon somehow, by God’s Grace xx

Thank you for your lovely post. I do feel very blessed in other areas of my life and have so much to be grateful for! And I am working on overcoming the grief regarding this issue.

I felt compelled to post though as I often wonder how others reading this and some of the other posts on this site may feel. How many people considering a return to the church may decide it is just too hard... knowing the judgment that will follow. I know for me personally church was exceptionally hard in my 30's. Mothers tend to socialise with other mothers in a church setting and truthfully I found it easier to form friendship groups outside of the church for this very reason. The opinions in this post really seems to sum up the general consensus of the church regarding childless women. I just wanted people to see it from the other side... and maybe (hopefully) for them to be a little more welcoming.

 

[Katy]

Exactly agree with Katy. . Same here. experiencing shame and rejection in churches in such a matter Im not going anymore. As if we can choose to have a husband and children
Whoever says that. Wow. I'm 6'1. Oh men were interested. Sure they were. for all the wrong reasons... you opened up a can of worms, and my peacefully tucked away hurt. Lol. Thanks.

Exactly agree with Katy. . Same here. experiencing shame and rejection in churches in such a matter Im not going anymore. As if we can choose to have a husband and children
Whoever says that. Wow. I'm 6'1. Oh men were interested. Sure they were. for all the wrong reasons... you opened up a can of worms, and my peacefully tucked away hurt. Lol. Thanks.

I am sad to hear you didn't feel welcomed in the church either. I can only imagine this is a very common experience. Like yourself, there must be so many that choose to stay away from the church due to shame and rejection... Recently I have been contemplating an online fellowship specifically for childless, and or single women. Or basically any women who feels shamed by the church. I am not sure I would be the right person to run it... I am not sure yet... but there is definitely a real need! A sense of community is so important, particularly in our walk with Christ.

 

[PC123]

Being a woman of 40 without children, who works, I find you post hurtful. I work, not because I am choosing a career, but because I need to pay bills, keep a roof over my head and so forth...

After a myriad of health issues, and not finding a husband in my 20's a child hasn't happened for me/us. I mourn for a child everyday and have done so many years. An outsider would not know this and may view my childlessness as it being a choice because I have a career. And I choose not to share my story with everyone. It was not a choice though... It is a constant source of hurt. And your judgement, not to mention the judgement of a LOT of christians is another source of hurt and loneliness.

My point - you have NO IDEA of the hearts of these women. Be inclusive, don't leave them out as they are unmarried or childless or whatever. Like everyone, they deserve love free from judgement. Don't fail to invite these women to family dinners women's group and other family friendly events. These women are not statistics - they are humans in need of love.

Hi Katy... Why are you offended at that post u responded to? It wasn't an attack on u or anyone
He basically just talks about an article he read and about praying for his sister.
Please read his post again, there is no reason for any indignation as im sure he didn't mean to offend anyone

Anyway... This pain that your experiencing... Can u continue to mourn like this every day and live a healthy and happy life???

I know i couldn't. Im 43 and my ex left me for a rich old man about 6-7 years ago...
It broke me in a way that i never knew was possible.

I mourned not having a child. I mourned not having a partner. I dreaded living the rest of my life without a family. Add to that was my work/financial situation, drug addiction and the fact that i hadn't yet came back to God... The evil one had driven me to the edge of the cliff, literally, i had made a suicide plan...

i really hope that your torment isn't leading you down this same path.
I had to reach a place of acceptance. I know i will never have a family, i know that once my parents are gone that i will have no one to love and no one will love me... And now... Im at peace with that, as much as i can be anyway. Thinking about it is still disappointing.

Anyway, i hope you got something from reading about my situation... It ain't just u girls, its us boys too.
And i hope God helps to ease your pain

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Who remembers the "Old Maid" card game?
The stigma loomed over us when we were children...........

Married women who have many babies stay loved, happy, beautiful & thin even when they are old.
It's a wonderful life.

If you don't get a man & produce offspring, you'll be lonely, plain, unattractive & boring.
You'll forget how to do your hair & even your eyesight will fail. Get a husband or else!