Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

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Smoke

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The whole world saw it, there’s no spin that’s going to change the facts. You can believe whatever you want but it doesn’t change reality.
There are facts and there are opinions. So we are on the same page, you are talking about Jan 6th and the insurrection charge, yes?

Could you tell me the distinctive qualifiers that would separate a "riot" from an "insurrection"? I am 100% willing to engage with you.
 

PennEd

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Can you please point to me in the Bible where it give you the authority to judge my life?
16 You will know them by their fruits.

The fruit of Harris is abortion on demand up to the very second of birth.

Giving hormone drugs to little kids, gender surgery to children even without parental consent.

These are clearly satanic practices.

We ARE told to judge within the Church. If you are supporting people actively pushing these satanic agendas, then we are to judge you. I can show in Scripture where Paul says to judge within the Church if you like.
 

Smoke

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I believe that public servants should be held to a much higher standard then private citizens. He should be judged even more harshly for his crimes.
That's a completely unamerican belief, isn't it? The preamble to the Declaration of Independence states "all men are created equal", but you feel we ought NOT to be equal under the law in certain qualifiers?

Secondly, why haven't other presidents and people in elected offices received similar treatment by the DOJ? Shouldn't you demand Biden be prosecuted for some of the same charges that Trump was when it came out he had confidential documents while not VP or president? Did the DOJ go after Hillary for bleaching hard drives and destroying evidence? To your point, I believe they should have but didn't.

I wanted to add another: Biden used language similar to Trump when he said that "we need to put Trump in the bullseye". Then days later there was an assassination attempt. "We all saw it. You can't change reality." Aye?
 

Cameron143

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Why wouldn’t you want your neighbors to have adequate health care?

If prisoners can’t vote, that means that their rights can be taken away. If rights can be taken away, they’re not rights their privileges.

I am cautious when it comes to her stance on gun control as well.

As it stands we have a Candidate who may have some radical ideas that you and I disagreed with against a candidate, who tried to steal the US election out in the open. We as Americans have a duty to protect our democracy and vote against the candidate that tried to steal the US election.
Wow...did you go to public school and attend a State University?
Who said I was against health-care for my neighbor? I just don't want the government in charge of it.
When you commit serious crimes against the people of this country, you should have your voting rights taken. After all, you forfeited all kinds of rights when you were convicted. Do you think a person who has killed an individual and taken away every right that that person had should be afforded rights they took from another?
You didn't mention a whole host of other things. Are you for abortion? She is. If you vote for her you are fostering the killing of children in the womb.
Are you for gay marriage? She is. So if you vote for her you are fostering something that God hates.
Are you for the mutilation of children's sex organs? She is. A vote for her is a vote for mutilating children.
Are you for the annihilation of the Jewish race? She is. A vote for her is a vote for genocide.
Do you believe men should compete in women's sports? She does. She had no problem with a male pugilist beating the kapooky out of a woman.
Are you for someone getting a job based on some physical attribute or should the most qualified person get the job? She believes attributes are more important than merit. If you vote for her you are guaranteed to have less efficient government as well as failure in every other aspect of society? Do you really want a DEI doctor operating on a loved one or a skilled one?
All these things, combined with your inability to separate truth from lies, and the fact that you vote on emotion, make you part of what Rush used to call low information voter. In my opinion, that's bad enough. But you profess to be a Christian, and do not vote to help the weakest amongst us, yet vote for people who openly and blatantly make a mockery of God and His word. Either you are one of the best trolls I have ever seen, or one of the least informed and practicing Christians I have come across.
 

Cameron143

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I wasn't aware he tried to steal the US election. I believe they tried charging him for insurrection, but he was never convicted of that either.
Was never even charged with insurrection.
 

Smoke

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That's a completely unamerican belief, isn't it? The preamble to the Declaration of Independence states "all men are created equal", but you feel we ought NOT to be equal under the law in certain qualifiers?

Secondly, why haven't other presidents and people in elected offices received similar treatment by the DOJ? Shouldn't you demand Biden be prosecuted for some of the same charges that Trump was when it came out he had confidential documents while not VP or president? Did the DOJ go after Hillary for bleaching hard drives and destroying evidence? To your point, I believe they should have but didn't.

I wanted to add another: Biden used language similar to Trump when he said that "we need to put Trump in the bullseye". Then days later there was an assassination attempt. "We all saw it. You can't change reality." Aye?
I need to retract this statement actually. Trump never used language as Biden did in that quote. He explicitly stated to peacefully protest. I think my point still remains though.
 

Nehemiah6

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You can't change reality." Aye?
Leftists and Democrats don't give a hoot about reality. They have manufactured their own virtual reality, where (1) evil is good, (2) lies are truth, (3) tyranny is freedom, (4) anarchy is law and order, (5) criminals are not criminals while, law-abiding conservatives are terrorists. George Orwell predicted this a long time ago. The real issue now is who will lock up the domestic enemies?
 

ResidentAlien

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I'm tempted to vote for Harris/Walz just to help Trump lose. But there are a couple of reasons I wouldn't.

One, and probably the most important, there really are some things they support which I just can't get behind and which I can't support in all good conscience.

Second, I live in a solidly red state and it wouldn't matter if I did vote for Harris, Trump is still going to win here.

Fear that I'm not really a Christian if I did isn't even on the radar. I've been accused of not really being a Christian for any number of reasons: Not agreeing with someone; having my own opinion; not saying "praise the Lord" enough; not endorsing KJVO; calling out Christian nationalism; or for believing that making Jesus Lord of my life is necessary for salvation. Pretty much anything anyone disagrees with can make you a target for the accusation of not really being Christian. It's the big gun that's always dragged out when all else fails.
 

Eli1

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Second, I live in a solidly red state and it wouldn't matter if I did vote for Harris, Trump is still going to win here.
You're in Arizona, right? You must have your reasons for being there. Didn't you say you were native American too?
Red and Blue states use, what i like to call, the auto-subscription feature so you don't have to worry about it.
It's like using auto-pay for your bills.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I believe that public servants should be held to a much higher standard then private citizens. He should be judged even more harshly for his crimes.
Good,then the same should go for Biden. He should be held accountable first for the papers he took that he had no right to.
 

Melach

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So dancing to rap music is "ghetto?" I suppose everything black is ghetto in your opinion.
no one should be listening to that diarrhea of a worldly genre, black or white.
 

ResidentAlien

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no one should be listening to that diarrhea of a worldly genre, black or white.
I never said I like rap. However, it's very popular among a large number of people of all social classes. Calling it "ghetto" just seems like prejudice of the highest order. If you wanted to have a discussion about the evils of rap, rock or even contemporary Christian then I'd have a lot to say about all of them.
 

Melach

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Rap music is popular culture among the youth of all ethnicities at this present time. In the same way, that rock music was popular youth culture. It would be no different than having say Kid Rock perform at the RNC event and head banging.

Vice presidential nominee JD Vance headbanging to kid rock at the RNC~~>>>

https://www.tiktok.com/@dailymail/video/7393171026156293418?lang=en
isnt it odd these papists like jd vance will publicly listen to kid rock and other antichrist music but will still portray themselves as some conservative wholehearted family guys
 

Nehemiah6

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Good,then the same should go for Biden. He should be held accountable first for the papers he took that he had no right to.
That is only one "little" crime. There is a lot more. But for those who support Leftists and Communists there must always be a DOUBLE STANDARD. That's the only way they can continue with their self-deception. And had the Hunter Biden laptop not been deliberately made into another "Russian disinformation" item, many voters would have rejected Joe Biden. This is what the analysts have said.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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isnt it odd these papists like jd vance will publicly listen to kid rock and other antichrist music but will still portray themselves as some conservative wholehearted family guys
I can guarantee you people all over this forum and even in this thread listen to Kid Rock and all other kinds of rock music.
 

ZNP

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I can guarantee you people all over this forum and even in this thread listen to Kid Rock and all other kinds of rock music.
I can also guarantee you that there are those in this forum who do not listen to Kid Rock or rock music.
 

Cameron143

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Oh my! I listened to a song by The Sugarhill Gang the other day. I guess I'm going to have to get rid of my World's Greatest Dad t-shirt I received last Father's day.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I can also guarantee you that there are those in this forum who do not listen to Kid Rock or rock music.
Yep, I don't. A couple on the radio maybe. But that wasn't my point.
 
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I'm tempted to vote for Harris/Walz just to help Trump lose. But there are a couple of reasons I wouldn't.

One, and probably the most important, there really are some things they support which I just can't get behind and which I can't support in all good conscience.

Second, I live in a solidly red state and it wouldn't matter if I did vote for Harris, Trump is still going to win here.

Fear that I'm not really a Christian if I did isn't even on the radar. I've been accused of not really being a Christian for any number of reasons: Not agreeing with someone; having my own opinion; not saying "praise the Lord" enough; not endorsing KJVO; calling out Christian nationalism; or for believing that making Jesus Lord of my life is necessary for salvation. Pretty much anything anyone disagrees with can make you a target for the accusation of not really being Christian. It's the big gun that's always dragged out when all else fails.
I have read it now, good information.
Unfortunately, he should have answered in a different way, but he was agitated and rightly so the interviewer was very unprofessional.



Agree.




Agree.
My parents had to study and appear in front of a judge and answer questions, and they came through the point of entry.
I have zero respect for people who break the laws.
Donald Trump broke the law,right?Do you respect him?