Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

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PennEd said:
Umm. The word is liar. Not lier.

Every human being on the planet has lied. It just so happens you lied today.

And if you didn't lie, then show me where Trump said he was going to tax Muslims as you claimed.


BTW, if you are a Trump supporter, I'm John the Revelator, recently woke from my 2000 yr hibernation on Patmos!
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Watch the 502 thousand videos I did.
 
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PennEd said:
Uma cuse yoo of bein a lyer agin!
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No, but I'll give you a clue. In one of the 502 thousand videos he says that foreigners who have bought companies in the US are about to hire only US employees or leave. He goes on to explain how he will do this to stop them from coming here and buying up businesses in the US. Charles Koch had differences with him over parts of this in his first term but I agree with Trump and hope he does it.
 
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Squigglylines said:
No, but I'll give you a clue. In one of the 502 thousand videos he says that foreigners who have bought companies in the US are about to hire only US employees or leave. He goes on to explain how he will do this to stop them from coming here and buying up businesses in the US. Charles Koch had differences with him over parts of this in his first term but I agree with Trump and hope he does it.
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Yup.

What's that got to do with Muslims?

YOU, said he was going target Muslims.


Post #202 YOU said:

No really in one of the videos he says that he's going to tax the Chinese,Muslim ect. owned companies in the US until they sell out and leave. Do you disagree with his approach?
 
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PennEd said:
Never called you a LIER. Not even sure if that's a word.
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i think it refers to a person who rests in a horizontal position. You would have to know someone very well to know whether or not they are a lier.
 
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PennEd said:
Yup.

What's that got to do with Muslims?

YOU, said he was going target Muslims.


Post #202 YOU said:

No really in one of the videos he says that he's going to tax the Chinese,Muslim ect. owned companies in the US until they sell out and leave. Do you disagree with his approach?
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Oh I get it now your playing the wokeie woke lefty game where I said Muslim which is a religion instead of a nation. Here I confess I should have said instead, "foreigners from Muslim nations" does that make you feel better in your little woke world?
 
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Tamarisk said:
He’s claiming that he agreed to debate Joe Biden on ABC and not Kamala. however, the contract he said did not list Joe Biden. It Was actually a agreement to debate the Democratic parties presumptive nominee not Biden.
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@Jimbone and I are both interested in seeing this contract. It seems quite absurd when Biden was the presumptive nominee for them to make it so clear they might just ditch him like that and put it into a contract. If I was Trump I would have been asking a whole lot of questions about such a contract.

Anyway as you know you can't simply make a claim like this without showing us the contract.
 
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ZNP said:
i think it refers to a person who rests in a horizontal position. You would have to know someone very well to know whether or not they are a lier.
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Just gotta say everything perfect for you wokie woke guys.
 
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Squigglylines said:
Just gotta say everything perfect for you wokie woke guys.
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Yep, unlike Camela who speaks so a first grader can understand and Joey who speaks so no one can understand we actually do speak english and words have meaning to us.
 
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Smoke said:
I think TDS is a real phenomenon that exists on both sides (for and against Trump). It ultimately comes down to two extremes:

1.) Everything Trump does is wrong.
2.) Trump can do no wrong.

It's getting used inappropriately and as a result, it's losing meaning and impact.
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You can think everything Trump does is wrong and not be deranged. That's just a name people like to tag people with in an effort to marginalize and delegitimize them. Kinda like the the schoolyard bully calling some other kid a dummy-stupid-head.
 
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ZNP said:
Yep, unlike Camela who speaks so a first grader can understand and Joey who speaks so no one can understand we actually do speak english and words have meaning to us.
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I mean and don't dare misspell one or use any slang from the US
 
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ZNP said:
Yep, unlike Camela who speaks so a first grader can understand and Joey who speaks so no one can understand we actually do speak english and words have meaning to us.
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opps you seem to have posted your post twice and need to stand in the corner with me.
 
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Smoke said:
An analogy is "a comparison of two unlike things"... this is a one-for-one comparison. It doesn't meet the requirement.

Facts/Given:
1.) Trump's verbatim definition of "Black job": Anybody with a job.
2.) POTUS is a job.

Using the laws of logic, if #1 and #2 are true, we can determine that the POTUS is a "Black job" as it fulfils the standard of being a job. A job is a job. This isn't an analogy and I'm not sure why you think it is. If you think it's "nonsense", you aren't attacking me but rather Trump's descriptor for what a "Black job" is.
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Analogy (per Oxford Languages):
noun
  1. a comparison between two things, typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification.
    "an analogy between the workings of nature and those of human societies"
    • a correspondence or partial similarity.
      "the syndrome is called deep dysgraphia because of its analogy to deep dyslexia"
    • a thing which is comparable to something else in significant respects.
      "works of art were seen as an analogy for works of nature"
Re: logic & analogy, one again, plug in some context which it seems most ridiculing Trump don't like to do. Then apply the logic. How well does it work for illegal immigrants now flowing through open US borders stealing the position of POTUS? How well does it work for black jobs illegal immigrants are taking to compare those jobs to POTUS?

You're seeming pretty agenda driven.

Those in this thread who have applied a little objectivity and common sense to the matter and opine that what Trump said was not well-stated IMO are preferable reading to the agenda-driven nonsense.
 
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studier said:
Analogy (per Oxford Languages):
noun
  1. a comparison between two things, typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification.
    "an analogy between the workings of nature and those of human societies"
    • a correspondence or partial similarity.
      "the syndrome is called deep dysgraphia because of its analogy to deep dyslexia"
    • a thing which is comparable to something else in significant respects.
      "works of art were seen as an analogy for works of nature"
Re: logic & analogy, one again, plug in some context which it seems most ridiculing Trump don't like to do. Then apply the logic. How well does it work for illegal immigrants now flowing through open US borders stealing the position of POTUS? How well does it work for black jobs illegal immigrants are taking to compare those jobs to POTUS?

You're seeming pretty agenda driven.

Those in this thread who have applied a little objectivity and common sense to the matter and opine that what Trump said was not well-stated IMO are preferable reading to the agenda-driven nonsense.
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I can't speak on your misconception of any particular agenda one has other than discussing the merits of Trump's definition of a "Black job". You're still on the "analogy"... I didn't compare the position of POTUS to Trump's definition of what a Black job is ("Anybody with a job.") I took his definition and tested his logic to see if it holds when determining if the position of POTUS is indeed a "Black job". I DID NOT make any analogy no matter how hard you wish I did. I am using Trump's framework for what a "Black job" is, applying it to the position of POTUS and you're throwing a tantrum like I was the one who said it... calling it "nonsense". I literally quoted Trump and applied his definition. :unsure:
 
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ResidentAlien said:
You can think everything Trump does is wrong and not be deranged. That's just a name people like to tag people with in an effort to marginalize and delegitimize them. Kinda like the the schoolyard bully calling some other kid a dummy-stupid-head.
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I think it's self-evident that not EVERYTHING Trump does or says is wrong. If someone who genuinely believes everything Trump does or says is wrong, that would lead me to suspect they might just happen to have TDS.

If someone is being hyperbolic in stating "everything Trump does is wrong", then they may not necessarily have TDS.
 
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ZNP said:
@Jimbone and I are both interested in seeing this contract. It seems quite absurd when Biden was the presumptive nominee for them to make it so clear they might just ditch him like that and put it into a contract. If I was Trump I would have been asking a whole lot of questions about such a contract.

Anyway as you know you can't simply make a claim like this without showing us the contract.
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On a side note, I don't know how or why people aren't outraged he is still the current POTUS. The Democrats wanted him to not run again due to his drastic decline, especially over the last 4 years... He agrees and drops out for his re-election, but he is somehow fit RIGHT NOW? He should either contend he still has it and run for re-election (and remain POTUS) or concede he's losing it and step down as POTUS (and not run again).

I maybe heard a few people say this in the media, but seems like no one really cares on either side... :unsure:
 
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