Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

[Smoke]

You began by talking about jobs, then switched to homicides by illegals. So you changed your own rules.

Actually, "fear" tactics fit both. The topics are absolutely linked.

So let's stick to the topic of jobs. But before that let's deal with your false accusation about Trump using the race card simply because he mentioned jobs being taken away from blacks by illegal MIGRANT INVADERS (not "immigrants). Donald Trump is not a racist (and is in fact loved by blacks), unlike those on the Left. Biden is a very racist person and Obama was a black racist. It is Kamala Harris who is playing the race card right now.

I am not convinced Trump is a racist either. That isn't the point. A non-racist can still use race and exaggerate fear of illegal immigrants killing you though, right?

Also, in your long-winded post, you never actually explained or expanded on what a "Black" job is and which ones the illegal immigrants are taking. We can agree all day long that Obama and Kamala do the same thing, but fortunately, almost no one here will be voting for them here. There seems to be an echo-chamber here, but it's not for Democrats.

 

[HeIsHere]

Mission accomplished.

Exactly, not worth the time and effort.

 

[Smoke]

My impression when watching the interview was, as per usual, he is very impulsive with his words and struggles to be diplomatic and exaggerates, oblivious to how his words can be misinterpreted.

I think his comments were demeaning to the black population since the immigrants (both legal and illegal) are doing work which others do not want to do, the minimum wage work

In this interview he let himself be put on the defensive from the get go, these types of interviews rarely go well for him, he lashes out and lacks clarity in his rhetoric.

Mmmm, so minimum wage jobs which tend to be unskilled labor? I just don't know why anyone would inject race into a type of job one does. Virtually every race does every type of job. I do agree he words things terribly which is why I question if this was a Freudian slip or if he is just ignorant sometimes.

 

[Smoke]

How stupid is this point!?

He was at a place hosted by entirely by blacks, who were concerned entirely with black issues, that were, except for Harris Faulkner, completely nasty and antagonistic, that had a VERY twisted "when did you stop beating your wife" opening question, with virtually NO greeting.

He did a WONDERFUL job there. So OF COURSE he is going to reference BLACK JOBS!

That was the whole point of him being there. To address black Americans concerns on various issues.

For you to try and make it seem like he's racist for doing exactly what he was asked about says a WHOLE lot more about YOU than him.

I feel like Matt Walsh right now... What IS a "Black job" though? I already knew the context in which he said it. I defended Trump in the other thread about people twisting what he said in regards to fixing the country no one will need to vote again.

He CLEARLY referenced "Black jobs"... I'm asking for someone to expand on what that is. He said it's anyone with a job. Then does that mean all jobs are "Black jobs"? Is being president of the United States a "Black job" by his definition? It certainly fits it... No?

 

[Tamarisk]

How stupid is this point!?

He was at a place hosted by entirely by blacks, who were concerned entirely with black issues, that were, except for Harris Faulkner, completely nasty and antagonistic, that had a VERY twisted "when did you stop beating your wife" opening question, with virtually NO greeting.

He did a WONDERFUL job there. So OF COURSE he is going to reference BLACK JOBS!

That was the whole point of him being there. To address black Americans concerns on various issues.

For you to try and make it seem like he's racist for doing exactly what he was asked about says a WHOLE lot more about YOU than him.

Trump went to the NABJ conference because he was making significant gains with black men. Your analysis of the interview is irrelevant. The reality is that black men do not view his appearance as favorably as you do.

Thus his strategy was unsuccessful and should not be defended. This is why Trump is losing in the polls. Because instead of learning from his campaign failures he doubles down.

 

[Smoke]

Harris went to Atlanta to speak, and started quoting black rappers and had a black female rapper do a song onstage while shaking her butt, yet no comments on that? She pandered to what she believed would sway a black audience. Not by discussing topics related to black people but by trying to act ghetto. And yet nothing about that. Huh...

You just exposed Harris to all 1 of her supporters on this site. Thanks for obfuscating and not expanding on what a "Black job" is. You win the internet for the day!

 

[Smoke]

I personally enjoy this and it reminds me when Trump first got into the White House and used to make journalist's heads spin with his comments.
Looking forward to more interviews of him with the press and other venues.

Enjoy what exactly?

Don't get me wrong, I think Trump can be hilarious. Thoroughly entertaining even. Does this mean I shouldn't question what he says sometimes? Does this mean he is immune from any sort of criticism? I don't want to do with Trump what the media has been doing for Biden for 4 years. I'm just a bit tired of the double-standards.

 

[HeIsHere]

Mmmm, so minimum wage jobs which tend to be unskilled labor? I just don't know why anyone would inject race into a type of job one does. Virtually every race does every type of job. I do agree he words things terribly which is why I question if this was a Freudian slip or if he is just ignorant sometimes.

I think it was a combination of Freudian like slip and his own ignorance and then he tried to cover it up and made it worse by saying "black jobs" and then he says " a black job is anybody who has a job"

It does not even make sense.
I am beginning to think there is something just as bad as TDS, it is those who cannot stand any criticism of their beloved small "s" saviour.
He messed up, simple as that.

 

[Eli1]

Enjoy what exactly?

Don't get me wrong, I think Trump can be hilarious. Thoroughly entertaining even. Does this mean I shouldn't question what he says sometimes? Does this mean he is immune from any sort of criticism? I don't want to do with Trump what the media has been doing for Biden for 4 years. I'm just a bit tired of the double-standards.

Hey Smoke, my comment had nothing to do with you questioning Trump or anything else my friend.
It was more of a comment about Trump and his character. Trump is like a bull in a china shop which is why i enjoy his rhetoric. I've always enjoyed his rhetoric. He doesn't have a lot of tact, says things how they are a lot of times and speaks from the gut. This makes him a very funny character. You can see that even in that audience people are laughing.
Now in regards to "black jobs" i saw that as "i don't want illegals to take the jobs of black people".
But unless Trump himself clarifies it then we won't know. And he won't clarify it because he knows it's more fun.

 

[Tamarisk]

Harris went to Atlanta to speak, and started quoting black rappers and had a black female rapper do a song onstage while shaking her butt, yet no comments on that? She pandered to what she believed would sway a black audience. Not by discussing topics related to black people but by trying to act ghetto. And yet nothing about that. Huh...

Rap music is popular culture among the youth of all ethnicities at this present time. In the same way, that rock music was popular youth culture. It would be no different than having say Kid Rock perform at the RNC event and head banging.

Vice presidential nominee JD Vance headbanging to kid rock at the RNC~~>>>

https://www.tiktok.com/@dailymail/video/7393171026156293418?lang=en

 

[Eli1]

Another thing i want to add is that this type of rhetoric is exactly what's needed right now in the age of political correctness where people walk in egg shells and have made up words which dilute the meaning of concepts.

 

[HeIsHere]

Because instead of learning from his campaign failures he doubles down.

That is exactly who he is.
I doubt he learns, he just confirms what he thinks he already knows.

 

[HeIsHere]

Another thing i want to add is that this type of rhetoric is exactly what's needed right now in the age of political correctness where people walk in egg shells and have made up words which dilute the meaning of concepts.

Idiocracy solves no problems.

 

[Eli1]

That is exactly who he is.
I doubt he learns, he just confirms what he thinks he already knows.

Let's just say he's got a little bit of an ego. Very very small ego. Tiny.

 

[Smoke]

Hey Smoke, my comment had nothing to do with you questioning Trump or anything else my friend.
It was more of a comment about Trump and his character. Trump is like a bull in a china shop which is why i enjoy his rhetoric. I've always enjoyed his rhetoric. He doesn't have a lot of tact, says things how they are a lot of times and speaks from the gut. This makes him a very funny character. You can see that even in that audience people are laughing.
Now in regards to "black jobs" i saw that as "i don't want illegals to take the jobs of black people".
But unless Trump himself clarifies it then we won't know. And he won't clarify it because he knows it's more fun.

But the difference is he DID clarify what he meant by a "Black job", only it begged for more questions. He won't further expand because there is no possible way he can tell a crowd of Black people that he thinks "Black jobs" are unskilled/minimum wage jobs. I'm actually GRATEFUL he didn't say that because that would be the end of his candidacy... but does anyone actually think he meant something other than that? He essentially was forced to give a Joe Biden answer and say a "Black job is anyone with a job".

 

[Mem]

You might as well hate Trump for his hair than make up reasons to convince others to hate him. I hope I don't mess it up in the retelling, I'm just going off the cuff rather than digging to get the most accurate quote but, I believe this is why people actually like Trump, He's not quoting any teleprompters. Anyway, in a moral discussion about a boy on a train track bound to be hit and killed, the scenario is that you have the power to divert the train if you flipped a switch but there are people on board of the train and the other track is out and so all of the people on the train would die. Do you flip the switch to save the boy?
I think most people, in general, would answer according to the statistics, the more people you keep from dying the better, that sounds most virtuous, but the moral answer is arguable considering that God values each individual as a world in himself. Cain killed Abel and then went on with the remainder of his life populating his own world, but we'll never know the world that Abel's potential would have generated. So, the question of immigrants being less likely caused a bit of cringe for me. It just isn't a good argument that citizens are more likely to commit a crime than an immigrant (although the specific reference is to those that have already committed one crime of entering unlawfully). And of course, statistics would show in their favor considering the numbers are 1 million to one but that if that one has the potential to destroy an entire world, then would you see it, at least a little, differently?

 

[Eli1]

But the difference is he DID clarify what he meant by a "Black job", only it begged for more questions. He won't further expand because there is no possible way he can tell a crowd of Black people that he thinks "Black jobs" are unskilled/minimum wage jobs. I'm actually GRATEFUL he didn't say that because that would be the end of his candidacy... but does anyone actually think he meant something other than that?

When he said that : " A "Black job" is anybody that has a job " i took that again in reference to his audience but again knowing that Donald speaks from the gut and doesn't put a lot of thought into things, then it could also be interpreted as "dirty jobs that no Americans want to do" and by saying that to a black audience, that would be offensive and some were offended.
But others weren't because maybe they thought that the second meaning didn't apply.
Again this is the type of entertainment that is caused by Trump's comments.

 

[Mem]

But the difference is he DID clarify what he meant by a "Black job", only it begged for more questions. He won't further expand because there is no possible way he can tell a crowd of Black people that he thinks "Black jobs" are unskilled/minimum wage jobs. I'm actually GRATEFUL he didn't say that because that would be the end of his candidacy... but does anyone actually think he meant something other than that? He essentially was forced to give a Joe Biden answer and say a "Black job is anyone with a job".

If you're out of work, you take whatever job is available, unless you have the skills that provides you options. So, even if he was speaking of unskilled jobs, not even those are available is filled by someone that is lawfully 'unqualified.'

 

[ZNP]

It was 11 million in 2022 and 8.3 million undocumented that work in the US. It’s much closer to those numbers.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...out-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/

I'm not talking about how many came in during Biden's term, I'm talking about the total number of illegals in the US, that number I was told by a congressman was a conservative estimate.

 

[Smoke]

Another thing i want to add is that this type of rhetoric is exactly what's needed right now in the age of political correctness where people walk in egg shells and have made up words which dilute the meaning of concepts.

Eh, I'm pretty anti-woke. I do better with being factual and not being excessively hyperbolic. I also don't inject race into things like jobs either. That's a tactic of the woke.