Does the Christian sin every day?

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I think I agree with you EG, but would add one thing:

I do think that we need to think of sins as specific wrong acts and deeds that we do. Yes, it is sin if we know to do right, but do not do it. But rather than leaving it at that, what I need to do is ask God: What is it that you wanted me to do today that I did not do? Then make a list of those things!

A simply general unspecific view of sin (Oh, we all sin every day!) may tend to make a person think it is OK and normal for a believer to sin.


I think it is worse to go around and think you do not sin, I think it is better to understand you do not obey God 24/7, then seek for the areas in which you have done for self and not others. Then to think you are ok, and not even have a reason to look.
 
I think it is worse to go around and think you do not sin, I think it is better to understand you do not obey God 24/7, then seek for the areas in which you have done for self and not others. Then to think you are ok, and not even have a reason to look.

Agreed that the person who goes around thinking they do not sin have a big problem! Dangerous!
 
Not sure what you are trying to say here? Can you give a summary?

Nobody is perfect in their mind or flesh, we all will sin and continue to sin. The Bible says sin is a choice and not an action. It also says it is something we should not continue to live in and something we should do less and less, if we partake of the divine nature and grow in Christian Virtue. The divine nature should reign over the sin nature of the new man.

So yes, a Christian will miss the mark, but should not continue in sin and there should be times that a day goes by and they do not sin at all, because they have crucified the flesh with all it passions and they are being changed from glory to glory, strength to strength and everlasting to everlasting every day.

This is not to be thought of as perfect and sinless, but rather spiritually mature and understand we can fulfill Hebrews 12:1-3

Therefore, since we have so great a cloud of witnesses surrounding us, let us also lay aside every encumbrance and the sin which so easily entangles us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, [SUP]2 [/SUP]fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For consider Him who has endured such hostility by sinners against Himself, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart.

Now many might disagree here, because of what they have been taught or define SIN to be.

I also think it is very important to bring out the truth of Personal Principals of Conscience found in Romans 14. Drinking to me is a sin, because I cannot drink alcohol in Faith. This is because I am delivered alcoholic and the Holy Spirit said if I ever drink again it is a sin to me. Another Christian might be able to drink in faith, and to him it is not sin.

That said, if they cause another stumble, it is a problem and if a drink turns into raucous drunkenness that impacts his witness for Christ, his family, his employer, his friends and his church family, he has an issue and it is now a work of the flesh and might be time for him to crucify drinking any form of alcohol.

Hope this makes sense.
 
Does the Christian sin every day?

What are your thoughts? What does the Bible say?
As long as the flesh has not been totally eradicated (by God) the Christian can and will sin. As to "every day" that is entirely dependent upon whether the Christian is walking by faith and by the Spirit. The problem arises when some false teachers claim that Christians do not have to deal with their PRESENT SINS through confession to God and repentance (turning away) from those sins. Study the first epistle of John for insight into this matter.
 
The spirit is born again from above by incorruptable seed, is eternally secure in Christ's righteousness, does not sin and will not sin ever.

The body which currently houses said spirit is dead because of sin, not subject unto the word of God, is sinful, is weak and seeks to sin.

The spirit is indeed willing, but the flesh is weak.......in some form or fashion we fail everyday........
 
Nobody is perfect in their mind or flesh, we all will sin and continue to sin. The Bible says sin is a choice and not an action. It also says it is something we should not continue to live in and something we should do less and less, if we partake of the divine nature and grow in Christian Virtue. The divine nature should reign over the sin nature of the new man.

So yes, a Christian will miss the mark, but should not continue in sin and there should be times that a day goes by and they do not sin at all, because they have crucified the flesh with all it passions and they are being changed from glory to glory, strength to strength and everlasting to everlasting every day.

This is not to be thought of as perfect and sinless, but rather spiritually mature and understand we can fulfill Hebrews 12:1-3

Therefore, since we have so great a cloud of witnesses surrounding us, let us also lay aside every encumbrance and the sin which so easily entangles us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, [SUP]2 [/SUP]fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For consider Him who has endured such hostility by sinners against Himself, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart.

Now many might disagree here, because of what they have been taught or define SIN to be.

I also think it is very important to bring out the truth of Personal Principals of Conscience found in Romans 14. Drinking to me is a sin, because I cannot drink alcohol in Faith. This is because I am delivered alcoholic and the Holy Spirit said if I ever drink again it is a sin to me. Another Christian might be able to drink in faith, and to him it is not sin.

That said, if they cause another stumble, it is a problem and if a drink turns into raucous drunkenness that impacts his witness for Christ, his family, his employer, his friends and his church family, he has an issue and it is now a work of the flesh and might be time for him to crucify drinking any form of alcohol.

Hope this makes sense.

Thanks for clarifying what you were trying to say. I agree with a lot of what you say, some things I might say differently (that's a nice way of saying I disagree - :)) and in some other areas you give me some good things to think about.

Can a day go by that I (a Christian) does not sin? You give that as a goal above . . . ?

I might say it this way: I think it should be a definite goal that in my actions, thoughts, choices that all of the time all day long I do what I know to be right (or that I do what God wants me to do). Is this possible? Absolutely! To say it is impossible means that God (the Holy Spirit in me) is not able to keep me from sin.

Having said the above, I realize there is also the perspective that in my attitudes and responses, etc. I will never be able to match what Jesus would do if He was "in my shoes". Is this sin? It is definitely "missing the mark" - which is the simple Strong's definition of sin.

So, yes, in one respect I will "sin" every day - my issues of fear, pride, and selfishness are always going to have an affect on my actions every day.

But, I believe it is possible to knowingly and willingly choose to follow and do what I know - . . . .

Have I done this all the time for the last 24 hours? NO! But I am going to endeavor to do it in the next 24 hours! :p
 
Does the Christian sin every day?

What are your thoughts? What does the Bible say?

No. A follower of Jesus sins when they sin, and the Lord will bring conviction and show the
consequences of their sin over time.

The focus is always on love and relationships, which sin destroys and eats away at.
We are called to be aware of our limitations and dwell with God so our hearts respond
in Him and to need and not to worldly passions that often war in our hearts.

Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.
Eph 4:29

Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.
Phil 4:8

Forgive the past and look to the future to bring blessing to others.
Be busy doing good and you will find sin and selfishness has a way of being healed
and washed away by the blood and love of Christ flowing through ones life.

Are we bound in fear to sin?

But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
1 cor 15:57
 
Colossians 1:

[SUP]25 [/SUP]Of this church I was made a minister according to the stewardship from God bestowed on me for your benefit, so that I might fully carry out the preaching of the word of God, [SUP]26 [/SUP]that is, the mystery which has been hidden from the past ages and generations, but has now been manifested to His saints, [SUP]27 [/SUP]to whom God willed to make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. [SUP]28 [/SUP]We proclaim Him, admonishing every man and teaching every man with all wisdom, so that we may present every man complete in Christ. [SUP]29 [/SUP]For this purpose also I labor, striving according to His power, which mightily works within me.

How can we fall short of something that is in us?

notice the word hope? Glory is pure light without shadow. Are you there?
 
notice the word hope? Glory is pure light without shadow. Are you there?

Question: Is falling short a condition before we receive the imputed righteousness of Christ?

If God sees Jesus Christ's righteousness imputed on us, after the free gift of Salvation, how can we fall short after being made righteousness through Jesus Christ and his obedience?

Romans 5:18-21

For as through the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous. [SUP]20 [/SUP]The Law came in so that the transgression would increase; but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, [SUP]21 [/SUP]so that, as sin reigned in death, even so grace would reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
 
Ruach..
Question: Is falling short a condition before we receive the imputed righteousness of Christ?

Stones:
odd question. Theres no hope for an unbeliever. Falling short would not apply.

ruach..
If God sees Jesus Christ's righteousness imputed on us, after the free gift of Salvation, how can we fall short after being made righteousness through Jesus Christ and his obedience?

Stones.
Ruach, I didn't understand what glory actually meant until the Lord gave me a picture of His. I ask Him all kinds of questions and He always answers in all different ways. I saw flowing bright light. Golden light. Shimmering..and it's an image of Him. Just knew that looking at Him? He has no shadow at all. Is pure.

We are beings of light too. But, there are things in our life when we are first born again that causes what appears as dimming the light. The more idols fall, the brighter the light.

Ask Him.


Ruach
Romans 5:18-21

For as through the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous. [SUP]20 [/SUP]The Law came in so that the transgression would increase; but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, [SUP]21 [/SUP]so that, as sin reigned in death, even so grace would reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord

Stones
good scriptures.
 
Ruach..
Question: Is falling short a condition before we receive the imputed righteousness of Christ?

Stones:
odd question. Theres no hope for an unbeliever. Falling short would not apply.




ruach..
If God sees Jesus Christ's righteousness imputed on us, after the free gift of Salvation, how can we fall short after being made righteousness through Jesus Christ and his obedience?

Stones.
Ruach, I didn't understand what glory actually meant until the Lord gave me a picture of His. I ask Him all kinds of questions and He always answers in all different ways. I saw flowing bright light. Golden light. Shimmering..and it's an image of Him. Just knew that looking at Him? He has no shadow at all. Is pure.

We are beings of light too. But, there are things in our life when we are first born again that causes what appears as dimming the light. The more idols fall, the brighter the light.

Ask Him.


Ruach
Romans 5:18-21

For as through the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous. [SUP]20 [/SUP]The Law came in so that the transgression would increase; but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, [SUP]21 [/SUP]so that, as sin reigned in death, even so grace would reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord

Stones
good scriptures.

as a son of man with three gates to keep. there are times i go out.

A gift of Grace to explore the Torah(law) with guidence of a Light in hand and Above.
There have been times in my walk that the Lord Himself has been a gentle passerby to remind me of the Oil of gladness.

Planted along living waters i am assured of the Lords power to increase the faith i need to carry the Living Word as a yoke and burden.


Love you,
j
 
as a son of man with three gates to keep. there are times i go out.

A gift of Grace to explore the Torah(law) with guidence of a Light in hand and Above.
There have been times in my walk that the Lord Himself has been a gentle passerby to remind me of the Oil of gladness.

Planted along living waters i am assured of the Lords power to increase the faith i need to carry the Living Word as a yoke and burden.


Love you,
j

much symbolic truth or revelation in this short post. Things I know nothing about yet other than I've heard. :)

Pick in hand pin. Lol
 
much symbolic truth or revelation in this short post. Things I know nothing about yet other than I've heard. :)

Pick in hand pin. Lol

As a man I have been humbled just as yeshayahu (isaiah)
There was a time when I was a person of unclean lips till and Angel of the Lord offered coals of righteouse Fire to stoke my lonely thoughts. It was then that in the incense of prayer my ears heard the Lord and my eyes were opened.
A need of relationship and family that will answer is more than words or pointing in a direction. It is when the Lord's embrace takes hold a person that they realize a comfort that while they seek the kingdom, much more will be added.

Yeshayahu is a part of the body, and bond of peace that courses the very wind of harmony that is a gift.

Blessed is the name.
 
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odd question. Theres no hope for an unbeliever. Falling short would not apply.

The context of Romans 3 is the conclusion of Romans 1 & 2 and that conclusion is that all are guilty before justification through grace by faith in Jesus Christ.

Given this truth, how can we say that falling short only applies to the believer and only after conversion. The context is telling us ALL have sinned and ALL fall short of the glory and before we are justified by faith in Christ and not of our works.

Therefore we can conclude:
Romans 3 is a conclusion of thoughts expressed about the lost gentile and jew in Romans 1 & 2
We see that both jew and gentile and ALL have sinned and fall short
We can know that ALL have sinned and fell short before conversion and not after justification through faith in Jesus Christ
After justification by grace through our faith and the redemption through Christ we are made righteous through Christ

Therefore we cannot say that falling short is for the believer only and is not a condition after we are made the righteousness of God through the imputed righteousness of Jesus Christ. We will still sin, but the context of Romans 3 is not about believers still sinning, it is that ALL Sinned because they rejected Jesus Christ just as Romans 1 & 2 say they did.




Romans 3

Then what advantage has the Jew? Or what is the benefit of circumcision? [SUP]2 [/SUP]Great in every respect. First of all, that they were entrusted with the oracles of God. [SUP]3 [/SUP]What then? If some did not believe, their unbelief will not nullify the faithfulness of God, will it? [SUP]4 [/SUP]May it never be! Rather, let God be found true, though every man be found a liar, as it is written,“That You may be justified in Your words,
And prevail when You are judged.”

[SUP]5 [/SUP]But if our unrighteousness demonstrates the righteousness of God, what shall we say? The God who inflicts wrath is not unrighteous, is He? (I am speaking in human terms.) [SUP]6 [/SUP]May it never be! For otherwise, how will God judge the world? [SUP]7 [/SUP]But if through my lie the truth of God abounded to His glory, why am I also still being judged as a sinner? [SUP]8 [/SUP]And why not say (as we are slanderously reported and as some claim that we say), “Let us do evil that good may come”? Their condemnation is just.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]What then? Are we better than they? Not at all; for we have already charged that both Jews and Greeks are all under sin; [SUP]10 [/SUP]as it is written,
“There is none righteous, not even one;
[SUP]11 [/SUP]There is none who understands,
There is none who seeks for God;
[SUP]12 [/SUP]All have turned aside, together they have become useless;
There is none who does good,
There is not even one.”
[SUP]13 [/SUP]“Their throat is an open grave,
With their tongues they keep deceiving,”
“The poison of asps is under their lips”;
[SUP]14 [/SUP]“Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness”;
[SUP]15 [/SUP]“Their feet are swift to shed blood,
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Destruction and misery are in their paths,
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And the path of peace they have not known.”
[SUP]18 [/SUP]“There is no fear of God before their eyes.”

[SUP]19 [/SUP]Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God; [SUP]20 [/SUP]because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.

[SUP]21 [/SUP]But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, [SUP]22 [/SUP]even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction; [SUP]23 [/SUP]for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, [SUP]24 [/SUP]being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus; [SUP]25 [/SUP]whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed; [SUP]26 [/SUP]for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, so that He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

[SUP]27 [/SUP]Where then is boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith. [SUP]28 [/SUP]For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. [SUP]29 [/SUP]Or is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, [SUP]30 [/SUP]since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one.
[SUP]31 [/SUP]Do we then nullify the Law through faith? May it never be! On the contrary, we establish the Law.
 
In some respects we can probably say that we "sin" every day - my issues of fear, pride, and selfishness are always going to have an affect on my actions every day. Another angle is thinking about sins of omission: things I could have done if I had been 100% in tune with the Holy Spirit all the time; or maybe thinking of things God wants me to do (Biblical commands) that I do not know about or do not understand. And besides those is my flesh - too many times I knowingly commit sins!

But I chafe a bit when I hear Christians say: "Oh we all sin every day!" I think it is easy to use such a statement as an escape from living how God wants me to on a daily basis.

I think it should be a definite goal that in my actions, thoughts, choices that all of the time all day long I do what I know to be right (or that I do what God wants me to do). Is this possible? Absolutely! To say it is impossible means that God (the Holy Spirit in me) is not able to keep me from sin.

So, I believe it is possible to knowingly and willingly choose to follow and do what I know - . . . .

Have I done this all the time for the last 24 hours? NO! But I am going to endeavor to do it in the next 24 hours! :p