Does the Bible ever say to beat kids?

[Subhumanoidal]

“Well-known Member” and you really think the Bible would say beat you kids and use brutality against them? Dear Lord. I need to rethink what a “Well-known Member” might know, or not know about the Bible. I’m amazed at the complete lack of knowledge and the pure despondency of some of these “Well-known Members”.

(Where does this lack of any wisdom, lack of any spiritual acumen, or complete absence of desire to gain Godly understanding come from? Is it the lack of teaching in churches? I’m dumbfounded.)

Well known member is related to the number of posts a user has made. Nothing more. Some people have custom titles, but the majority just use the defaults. Which is just post count.

"Complete absence to gain Godly understanding come from?".
Well she's asking questions and you've made a point, twice, to criticize her. If this is how you handle people seeking counsel, maybe, just maybe, that has a negative effect on people reaching out for answers.

Also many on this site use titles posed as questions, when they aren't asking questions. They're telling others the answer. It could also been seen, by reading her post, that this is what she's done. There is no question if you read her post.

 

[Burn1986]

Well known member is related to the number of posts a user has made. Nothing more. Some people have custom titles, but the majority just use the defaults. Which is just post count.

"Complete absence to gain Godly understanding come from?".
Well she's asking questions and you've made a point, twice, to criticize her. If this is how you handle people seeking counsel, maybe, just maybe, that has a negative effect on people reaching out for answers.

Also many on this site use titles posed as questions, when they aren't asking questions. They're telling others the answer. It could also been seen, by reading her post, that this is what she's done. There is no question if you read her post.

I read the post. What does the title of the thread say? Where in the world does the Bible say to BEAT your kids? I’m asking seriously. Where would a sane person get that idea?

You’re right though, I should just patronize, and say “you’ve made a great point. Thank you.”

 

[Burn1986]

First post was a little harsh. Granted

 

[MsMediator]

Now I do think many who spank do it wrong. My parents never spanked me out of anger. My parents would discuss whether or not spanking was necessary, and if so, the one who was most calm did it. They always made sure to be calm. And following the spanking I'd sit on their lap, they'd discuss the situation with me and end it with a hug and telling me they loved me. After that it was dropped. They didn't bring it back up again.
People only doing the spanking and not the rest are not doing it in a healthy manner.
And people doing any other physical punishment are leaning into abuse to one degree or another.
Leaving bruises or any such thing is also over the top.

What you describe is ideal if one decides to spank...parents remaining calm, discussing the situation, and ending with kindness. Though not spanking, it reminds me of the scene in A Christmas Story where Ralphie had to put soap in his mouth for profanity. However, when a kid behaves very badly it will naturally provoke the parent to anger, and the parent will very likely respond with anger. Even a mild offense can provoke a parent. If an adult already has temper or certain mental health issues, he/she is not going to remain calm and anything can set them off. In King of the Hill, Peggy Hill is a nice/normal woman but she lost her temper and spanked Dooley. In fact, this is a more realistic reaction from parents (though still a bit on the lighter side) than that of Ralphie's mom who remained more calm (though still shocked). I think removing privileges is a better option. One reason why the younger generation may be more entitled and disrespectful is that the parents give them anything they want, and the kids expect the same from society/employer without going through the usual process. It is not all about lack of discipline.

 

[JaumeJ]

Here is an example of discipline without brutality. I am told that when I was a toddler, I walked across our street to see someone, a neighbor I believe. Mom is said to have run screaming and picked me up giving me a good swat on the rump. Perhaps I did not understand implicitey, but the swat helped as she told me never to walk into or across the street, EVER. Apparently that swat did the trick cause I never walked out that way again, according to what Mama told me..

If a child is yet too young to be reasoned with, a swat on therump convinces.

 

[Subhumanoidal]

What you describe is ideal if one decides to spank...parents remaining calm, discussing the situation, and ending with kindness. Though not spanking, it reminds me of the scene in A Christmas Story where Ralphie had to put soap in his mouth for profanity. However, when a kid behaves very badly it will naturally provoke the parent to anger, and the parent will very likely respond with anger. Even a mild offense can provoke a parent. If an adult already has temper or certain mental health issues, he/she is not going to remain calm and anything can set them off. In King of the Hill, Peggy Hill is a nice/normal woman but she lost her temper and spanked Dooley. In fact, this is a more realistic reaction from parents (though still a bit on the lighter side) than that of Ralphie's mom who remained more calm (though still shocked). I think removing privileges is a better option. One reason why the younger generation may be more entitled and disrespectful is that the parents give them anything they want, and the kids expect the same from society/employer without going through the usual process. It is not all about lack of discipline.

As I said, what I described, was what my parents did with me.
And yes it is ideal. Many things are ideal, yet not done that way. Doesn't make it wrong or useless to present it.
If a parent has issues where they're losing their temper on their kids that's on the parents to find a resolution. Chances are they're doing more damage with their temper than their lack of discipline, at thatpoint. Parents have a responsibility to do what they can to change what needs to be changed to become a better parent.

Also I was not spanked regularly. I had privileges taken away much more often. If the thing I did wrong was bad enough that's when my parents would discuss if it was even worthy of a spanking. If not, I didn't get one and got another punishment instead.

I never said Only to spank, merely that I had no problems with it as an adult.

Yes parents can be angered by their children. That's why i pointed out my parents didn't spank in anger. Spanking was not an immediate response. Specifically to ensure it was never done in anger.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

This is Asian Mom's Response

Asian Mom Discipline

 

[Karlon]

i never had kids but i dated women awhile back who had kids. by course, i never hit them. when they needed correction, i would sit them down & have a talk with them with a pleasant tone in my voice. & it always worked, they always listened to what i said & what i said to do or not to do.

 

[NotmebutHim]

Here's my take on it:

The same Scriptures which say that the rod of correction will drive foolishness from the heart of a child and that beating a child with said rod will not kill him also say that fathers (and by extension, mothers) should not provoke their children to wrath (but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord).

Physical discipline is all about balance.

 

[Burn1986]

Everyone knows it’s different for each kid. If you spank then usually 1-2 licks is enough (usually boys).

 

[Burn1986]

Here's my take on it:

The same Scriptures which say that the rod of correction will drive foolishness from the heart of a child and that beating a child with said rod will not kill him also say that fathers (and by extension, mothers) should not provoke their children to wrath (but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord).

Physical discipline is all about balance.

Duh. Obviously. The OP started this thread in the quest way possible. Just weird. There’s just so much wrong with her original post, that it’s evident of some sort of cognitive decline or negative cognitive development.

 

[Lynx]

Duh. Obviously. The OP started this thread in the quest way possible. Just weird. There’s just so much wrong with her original post, that it’s evident of some sort of cognitive decline or negative cognitive development.

Not necessarily. I got the impression the OP was trying to make a statement, but phrase it as a question to defer argument.

 

[Burn1986]

Not necessarily. I got the impression the OP was trying to make a statement, but phrase it as a question to defer argument.

Yeah, but some questions are so obvious, why answer it? Does the Bible say to BEAT your kids, is like saying “Does the Bible say to CHOP THE HEAD OFF anyone who looks like Goliath?” And then say in your original post “I’ve always tried to get along with bigger people.” Why even post such nonsense? If you want to say “I don’t believe in spankings, then why not just say it? Uggh

 

[Lynx]

Yeah, but some questions are so obvious, why answer it? Does the Bible say to BEAT your kids, is like saying “Does the Bible say to CHOP THE HEAD OFF anyone who looks like Goliath?” And then say in your original post “I’ve always tried to get along with bigger people.” Why even post such nonsense? If you want to say “I don’t believe in spankings, then why not just say it? Uggh

To be disingenious, is the usual reason.

You have to either get used to it, develop debate skills to counter it... or probably get stomach ulcers a lot.

 

[Burn1986]

To be disingenious, is the usual reason.

You have to either get used to it, develop debate skills to counter it... or probably get stomach ulcers a lot.

Develop debate skills? Lol You’re right, on this forum, that’s more important than being saved. 😎

Fwiw I’ve actually worked at several Mental Health facilities

 

[Lynx]

Develop debate skills? Lol You’re right, on this forum, that’s more important than being saved. 😎

Fwiw I’ve actually worked at several Mental Health facilities

Nah. I never bothered developing any and I've been doing just fine here for more than ten years. I just roll with it and have some fun.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

I can be harsh on adults but children and grandchildren can almost get away with anything. But my son went through a phase and I knew he needed to be corrected outside of talking and being grounded. I came from a family who spanked so I knew he needed to be spanked for his phase he was in. But I also remembered I could get spanked and still be a brat later on and I did not want to get into that habit. A friend of mine gave me the solution that worked. He said this limited his own children from getting into trouble.

So I took my son to a willow tree. And I snapped a branch off and had my son do the same thing. Then I peeled off the leaves and had my son do the same. Then I told him what he was wrong for and needed a couple swats. I took his tree branch he had prepared and gave him one, only one, but it got him good on the butt. After that, if he ever started getting back to where he was crossing the line I only had to say to him, do we need to walk out to the willow tree?

 

[Burn1986]

I can be harsh on adults but children and grandchildren can almost get away with anything. But my son went through a phase and I knew he needed to be corrected outside of talking and being grounded. I came from a family who spanked so I knew he needed to be spanked for his phase he was in. But I also remembered I could get spanked and still be a brat later on and I did not want to get into that habit. A friend of mine gave me the solution that worked. He said this limited his own children from getting into trouble.

So I took my son to a willow tree. And I snapped a branch off and had my son do the same thing. Then I peeled off the leaves and had my son do the same. Then I told him what he was wrong for and needed a couple swats. I took his tree branch he had prepared and gave him one, only one, but it got him good on the butt. After that, if he ever started getting back to where he was crossing the line I only had to say to him, do we need to walk out to the willow tree?

Good one. I got spanked too as a kid. My dad had a black belt that made a lot of noise and we usually hit maybe 1-2 licks. But the belt made a noise more than it hurt. Looking back, my dad should’ve spanked me more than he did.

 

[seoulsearch]

Good one. I got spanked too as a kid. My dad had a black belt that made a lot of noise and we usually hit maybe 1-2 licks. But the belt made a noise more than it hurt. Looking back, my dad should’ve spanked me more than he did.

Don't worry, there's still plenty of time!

Just kidding.

For the record, I'm pretty sure this is what my parents would say about me!

 

[Burn1986]

Don't worry, there's still plenty of time!

Just kidding.

For the record, I'm pretty sure this is what my parents would say about me!

Well, they would try talking to me, but all I was thinking was “Alright! No spankin”