Does man have a libertarian free will?

[John146]

But why did he not?

Nineveh believed God and repented from the violence that was in their hands. God no longer needed to destroy them.

 

[John146]

That's how you see it. I'm afraid to accuse God of such.

How do you justify your position?

 

[Dave-L]

How do you justify your position?

Read the whole passage. God's threat was obviously conditional based on repentance. And the threat caused them to repent.

 

[Dave-L]

Nineveh believed God and repented from the violence that was in their hands. God no longer needed to destroy them.

So the threat was conditional and not a lie?

 

[oyster67]

But scripture says God works repentance in us. Who gets the glory? God who causes sinners to repent? Or the sinners who repent?

The sinners who repent get the Salvation.

 

[John146]

Read the whole passage. God's threat was obviously conditional based on repentance. And the threat caused them to repent.

Can you post the condition as stated in Jonah? Thanks.

Here’s the preaching God bid Jonah to preach.

“Yet forty days and Nineveh shall be overthrown.”

 

[John146]

So the threat was conditional and not a lie?

Neither, God simply changed His mind.

 

[Dave-L]

Can you post the condition as stated in Jonah? Thanks.

Here’s the preaching God bid Jonah to preach.

“Yet forty days and Nineveh shall be overthrown.”

The outcome implies it was conditional. Do you still think God was lying?

 

[Dave-L]

The sinners who repent get the Salvation.

In the OT they only got physical perks.

 

[Dave-L]

Neither, God simply changed His mind.

If so, it was his eternal plan to do so which is unchangeable.

 

[John146]

The outcome implies it was conditional. Do you still think God was lying?

Nope. God has all authority to change His mind. You can’t wrap your mind around this biblical fact.

 

[Dave-L]

Nope. God has all authority to change His mind. You can’t wrap your mind around this biblical fact.

Only if he already changed it before time in eternity.

 

[John146]

If so, it was his eternal plan to do so which is unchangeable.

He had every intention to destroy them as He stated. Based upon Nineveh’s reaction, He changed His mind. I know that goes against your fatalist beliefs.

 

[oyster67]

So the threat was conditional and not a lie?

Are you serious? Are you actually asking us if God is a liar? WOW

 

[Dave-L]

He had every intention to destroy them as He stated. Based upon Nineveh’s reaction, He changed His mind. I know that goes against your fatalist beliefs.

Only if they did not repent. This is what scripture reveals.

 

[Dave-L]

Are you serious? Are you actually asking us if God is a liar? WOW

Do you think he was lying since he didn't destroy Nineveh after saying he would?

 

[John146]

Only if he already changed it before time in eternity.

Then your position is God lied to get Nineveh to repent to fulfill His eternal decree. I would rethink your position.

 

[Dave-L]

Then your position is God lied to get Nineveh to repent to fulfill His eternal decree. I would rethink your position.

No, he made sure they took him seriously.

 

[NOV25]

I would like to understand how God can love sinners so much He sends His only Son to die in our place, but takes joy and glee in creating a whole other class to feed the fire

that is not a loving God

Calvinists portray a false portrait of God in their own image

I will never understand this view because it is demonic and needs no explanation

God is not double minded and does not create sin nor those who sin with no hope of salvation

One claims we’re guilty of idolatry and fallen pray to doctrines of demons, the other compares the doctrine to Manson... When confronted they wont even answer why they hate the doctrine. Why? Maybe they have no biblical answer. I’ve asked the question 5 times and gotten nothing but venom. To be expected I suppose.

I missed that version. "In the beginning God created robots in his image and likeness." No free will, no free choice.

That means everything is God's doing.
Think Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, Ed Gein, Wacco, Noah's flood.

 

[oyster67]

In the OT they only got physical perks.

Bologna.