Does God love all mankind and does He wish to save everyone
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ForestGreenCook,
re: "I thought I answered your question. You ask 'Does he have that knowledge before he created man?' And my answer was 'He has All foreknowledge'"
I didn't know if that meant the He has all foreknowledge before He creates a person or if it is only after He creates the person.
And BTW, you misquoted me.
re: "I thought I answered your question. You ask 'Does he have that knowledge before he created man?' And my answer was 'He has All foreknowledge'"
I didn't know if that meant the He has all foreknowledge before He creates a person or if it is only after He creates the person.
And BTW, you misquoted me.
I would like to restate my question and ask, How can man reject God in his desire to save him eternally when man has nothing to do with choosing eternal salvation? We are saved eternally by God's grace and that not of ourselves lest any man should boast. Are you boasting? The only ones that can suppress the truth are the ones that have the imputed righteousness of Christ, in which, the natural man does not have. I do believe that Jesus's sacrifice was sufficient in that he saved all that he died for without the loss of even one. You are affirming that his sacrifice was not sufficient in that you say he died for all mankind and could not save all of them. You do not correctly divide the different salvation scriptures and you do not correctly divide the whole elect world from the whole world of its inhabitants.
That is a good question. I don't know. I have a lot of questions as to why God does and does not do many things. Rom 11:33, O the depths of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
I have stated before and I will state again: The sacrifice of Jesus was sufficient to cover the sins of ALL mankind. The reason some will find themselves cast into the lake of fire is because they reject God's all sufficient and abundant grace, mercy, lovingkindness.
If God accomplishes all of his will, and he does, you are saying that it was not his will to save all mankind, else he would have. Your belief is contradicting scriptures. All scriptures must harmonize or you do not understand the doctrine of Jesus. You are saying that the sacrifice of Jesus was sufficient to cover the sins of all mankind yet the sin of rejection is what sent them to hell. Woops! I guess his sacrifice was not sufficient to cover the sin of rejection. All scripture must harmonize or you do not understand the doctrine of Jesus.
I already addressed this issue when I posted about Sections 6 , 7, 8, 9, and 10 of the following article (starting with the Section named "The Two Goats of Leviticus 16"). I'm afraid it is you who is not harmonizing Scripture...
http://biblecentre.org/content.php?mode=7&item=892
Note also 2Cor5:14-15 -
"...that if one died for all, then were all dead:
15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again."
"He died for all" but "they which live" are not "all"
In reference to 2 Cor 5:14-15 - The one that died for all was Adam causing all to be dead. But they which live, the elect, should live unto him, Jesus, which died for them, and rose again. I direct your attention to Rom 5:15. The scape goat in leviticus is Jesus who died for many, the elect, not all mankind.
Great question. That has a yes and no answer and all found in the bible.
Really , who can say they know the mind of God? Only that they read what are the words of God.
Ezekiel 18:23
I got this from a site I found and wanted to share here. https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/does-god-really-desire-all-to-be-saved
This backs up what I said about the question has a yes and no answer in the scriptures themselves.
Really , who can say they know the mind of God? Only that they read what are the words of God.
Ezekiel 18:23
I got this from a site I found and wanted to share here. https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/does-god-really-desire-all-to-be-saved
This backs up what I said about the question has a yes and no answer in the scriptures themselves.
- God desires that all sinners be saved (1 Timothy 2:4; 2 Peter 3:9; Ezekiel 18:23; Matthew 23:37).
- God chose some people from eternity past (the elect), to be saved unconditionally, and only those elect will genuinely respond to the gospel and be saved (Matthew 22:14; John 6:37, 44, 65; 8:47; 10:26–29; Romans 8:29–30; 9:6–23; 11:5–10; 1 Corinthians 1:26–30; Ephesians 1:4–5; 1 Thessalonians 1:4; 2 Thessalonians 2:13; James 2:5).
Nope. That's your line …
Scripture tells us that it is God's desire that ALL men be saved and come unto the knowledge of the truth.
All Scripture does harmonize and Scripture does tell us about the unforgiveable sin.ForestGreenCook said:
Calvinists don't like that Scripture verse. They say it makes God weak and a loser. Some even say liar. Imagine! They call God and God's Word a lie.
He knows the end from the beginning
Isaiah 46:8
“Remember this, and show yourselves men;
Recall to mind, O you transgressors.
9
Remember the former things of old,
For I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is none like Me,
10
Declaring the end from the beginning,
And from ancient times things that are not yet done,
Saying, ‘My counsel shall stand,
And I will do all My pleasure,’
11
Calling a bird of prey from the east,
The man who executes My counsel, from a far country.
Indeed I have spoken it;
I will also bring it to pass.
I have purposed it;
I will also do it.
I know. Unbelievable what is passed off as "rightly dividing" God's Word.
ForestGreenCook has gone so far as to insist that those spoken of in Romans 1:18-32 are not unbelievers (as revealed in the text). According to ForestGreenCook, these are "disobedient children of God"
Adam died for all to sin, Jesus died for many which is the elect.. Jesus did not die for all mankind.
Thanks for restating that. You are helping me spread the truth.I know. Unbelievable what is passed off as "rightly dividing" God's Word.
ForestGreenCook has gone so far as to insist that those spoken of in Romans 1:18-32 are not unbelievers (as revealed in the text). According to ForestGreenCook, these are "disobedient children of God"
Jesus’ death is sufficient for all, but only effectual for those who have faith.
Scripture states that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world.
"And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."
This is "propitiation".
"Substitition" (the other goat on the Day of Atonement) is another thing altogether.
This is "propitiation".
"Substitition" (the other goat on the Day of Atonement) is another thing altogether.