Does God have the ability to limit His foreknowledge?

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Believer08

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Isa 5:2 And he fenced it, and gathered out the stones thereof, and planted it with the choicest vine, and built a tower in the midst of it, and also made a winepress therein: and he looked that it should bring forth grapes, and it brought forth wild grapes.

"He dug it all around, removed its stones, and planted it with the choicest vine. And He built a tower in the middle of it and also hewed out a wine vat in it; Then He expected it to produce good grapes, but it produced only worthless ones" (Isa. 5:2).

Here God clearly expected something but another lesser thing occurred proving in this particular situation that he did not know what would occur.


God can choose to know the future or choose not to as in the above example.
Why did He not know?
 

sawdust

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I just google it and all the definitions say the same thing. but no it is not like that he says he never knew them as a way of saying depart from me because they never knew him and so he saying he never knew them not because he is lacking information but because they were not his own and never knew him so therefore he never knew them it is an insult of sorts
Which was exactly my point. There is knowing someone and there is knowing about someone which begs the question ...

"is foreknowledge the same as omniscience?"
 

PaulThomson

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Personally, I don't think God can limit His foreknowledge, once something that will happen becomes knowledge.

However, I also don't think God's foreknowledge extends far very into the future, apart from events He has determined to make play out exactly as He has planned them to play out.
 

GWH

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Which was exactly my point. There is knowing someone and there is knowing about someone which begs the question ...

"is foreknowledge the same as omniscience?"
Because omniscience means "having all knowledge" or "knowing all that is knowable",
knowing "fore" and "aft" as well as port and starboard, up and down and all around are included--if knowable rather than absurd.
 

homwardbound

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Do you have the ability this very instant to forget me asking this question?

If not, then it is the same as God because to God, the present is as if the past and future are as one.
yet for us, at least me, better to stand in the present. Being this is the present form God, life everlasting presently, thanks, no more past or future to worry over