There aren't. At least not of its foundational principle that Christ alone is the Saviour.
Doctrine of Unconditional Election
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There aren't. At least not of its foundational principle that Christ alone is the Saviour.
Salvation "through faith". Yes Romans 10:17 says faith cometh by hearing the word Of God. Everytime the gospel is preached, the Holy Spirit is working, doing the conviction, leading the sinners to come into repentance and faith towards God Acts 20:21. You say salvation and faith, the scripture says in the particular verse in Eph . 2:8 says "are ye saved through faith" lit. We are saved by believing, since this gift of God is siingular, then it cannot be both refers to salvation and faith but rather either on of the two. Obviously, God is the one offering it and I believe, God is offering to us salvation which i gave verses to prove my point in my prior post.
John 20:21
But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that beileving ye might have life through his name.
The scripture of truth is believe to have life. The Calvinistic truth is to have life to believe.
But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that beileving ye might have life through his name.
The scripture of truth is believe to have life. The Calvinistic truth is to have life to believe.
I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this except to say the singular referred to God Himself as the gift. From God comes faith (Christ's faith), and by Christ's faith, salvation. From salvation does our faith grow. Without the gift of God, none of this is possible.
Divisions ...mostly....since the 1960's primarily because of the dozens of re-interpretations in scriptures....Bible editions.
"ye might believe": wait - so you're saying that not everyone who reads believes? Then who is it who comes to believe, and why?
Their belief (the "they" below) came from first having been blessed to believe - a blessing of God. From that blessing they had received eternal life.
[Jhn 20:29 KJV]
29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed [are] they that have not seen, and [yet] have believed.
There’ many…Paul addresses over and over the divisions within the body of Christ.
FreeGrace2 said:
Did either Adam or Eve drop dead 'in the day that they ate'? No. They were still physically alive and continued to make choices.
You don't understand my points because you are blinded by the presumptions of calvinism. None of which can be found in Scripture.
Did either Adam or Eve drop dead 'in the day that they ate'? No. They were still physically alive and continued to make choices.
And they STILL were ABLE to make CHOICES. That's what calvinists can't seem to understand. Spiritual death doesn't prevent the unbeliever from believing, as you presume.
This doesn't make any sense.
Overwhelmed by truth, eh?
You don't understand my points because you are blinded by the presumptions of calvinism. None of which can be found in Scripture.
I said about the core belief which is Christ as Saviour - those born again do not disagree about that. In the future, don't misquote me
It means if someone is already spiritually alive, there is no reason for them to be spiritually reborn. So, only those who are
dead spiritually can be born-again.
I wonder why God didn’t elect His body to be of the same mind and of one accord?
Yeah, well look at it this way - at least the Elect understand and agree on the core doctrine of Christ- that He is the only Saviour with all that implies and realize that all doctrine has been built upon Him. On the other hand, you and those of your ilk are wrong in even the most basic and important of Christian doctrine, so with/from a rotten foundation, it really doesn't matter what else you might agree upon.
A correct choice to follow Jesus is not a work, my friend.
Ephesians
2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:
2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
We choose to place our faith in Jesus. We cannot earn it, but neither is it automatic for anyone who neglects such great salvation. It is important to get this correct in your head before you try to teach others.
Christ is my foundation. No other foundation can man build upon. Are you calling this a rotten foundation? Is John Calvin and the RCC your foundation?
You still cleaving to conditional work salvation, salvation based upon what man does. See Election is all about what God has done and that by Grace !
FreeGrace2 said:
And they STILL were ABLE to make CHOICES. That's what calvinists can't seem to understand. Spiritual death doesn't prevent the unbeliever from believing, as you presume.
However, Adam's choice was to hide from God since he KNEW what he had done. Unlike Evie. She was deceived. He wasn't.
This proves that man has a conscience. Even though he had died spiritually, he KNEW what he did and the consequences.
Thanks for the example.
And they STILL were ABLE to make CHOICES. That's what calvinists can't seem to understand. Spiritual death doesn't prevent the unbeliever from believing, as you presume.
Why do you think every choice is "spiritual"? Believing the gospel isn't a spiritual choice. It's a trust issue.
However, Adam's choice was to hide from God since he KNEW what he had done. Unlike Evie. She was deceived. He wasn't.
This proves that man has a conscience. Even though he had died spiritually, he KNEW what he did and the consequences.
Thanks for the example.