Scripture that states that God elected people to salvation before the world began? Don't equate election with predestination...
Doctrine of Unconditional Election
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Scripture that states that God elected people to salvation before the world began? Don't equate election with predestination...
Thanks but you aren't really able to help that way and I too can't help those with closed mind.
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Umm, as said, Romans 9 speaks also of the Gentiles and how they are to be saved which I did quote and perhaps have it misled if one do not want to continue the reading of it. Paul speaks of attaining righteousness which is of faith, v. 30 and so with v.33 which states "whosoever believeth on him" is conditional. My another try:
Rom 9:30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
Rom 9:31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
Rom 9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
Rom 9:33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
will um? the point was aaah,, do you have must of the picture or just a few pieces?
yes..Like i'm still stuggling with spelling & the Hebrew language.Makes it tough to express my thought to others on a computer or on paper..and i wonder y gods not helping me more with the languages & other stuff.I speak as a fool talking about myself.
I'm curious about why you mention the Hebrew language. We're communicating in English. Is that your native tongue or not?
I got the impression that your native tongue is ancient Hebrew from what you said.
In that it services gods purpose yes.Yes gods "secret service"
as we don't know who may chosen of god.
no that's my pride sorry....[Of on a tangent ,,Translators do hide stuff little things an i'm surprised that must of us just trust the translators]
Im not discussing everything Rom 9 teaches, this is not a study on Rom 9, but a declaration of a truth found in Rom 9, the doctrine of unconditional election to salvation.
Different words have different meanings. The word elect in the Bible does not have the same meaning as the word predestinate.
Yes, I agree. Where would those heavenly blessing be found? In Christ. This was chosen by God before the foundation of the world. Individuals were not chosen in Christ, but the spiritual blessings in the heavenly places. That's the context of Ephesians 1.