Do you worry about Election interference

[TabinRivCA]

So you are in a Democratic stronghold.

I used to live in a town outside of NYC that was where many mid level mafiosos lived. We had no crime. They don't want crime in their hometown, they control the cops.

No one has alleged that there was election fraud in California.

There are ten swing states. Whoever wins seven or eight of them wins the election. You don't need to have election fraud in all fifty states only in those ten (20%).

Then you don't need to steal all the votes. A swing state means the election will generally be within 1% or so. The winner gets 50% and the loser 49%. So then you only need to steal enough votes to give the guy with 49% the victory. So let's say 2% of 20%, that is about 0.5% of the vote.

That means that 99.5% of the vote can be free, fair and legit and the election can still be stolen. However, you have to know precisely how many votes and where you need them. That means you need to wait until all the votes are counted and then add whatever extra votes you need to. So there is a very simple way to see if their is voter fraud.

If the polls close at 9pm and the results are announced at 12 midnight you have a relatively free and fair election. If on the other hand it takes them another 12 to 24 hours to get the results in then you know it is bogus. France uses paper ballots and they were able to announce the results in a matter of hours after the election was over. Using machines like Dominion are supposed to make things faster, not slower.

I thought every fraud accusation has been debunked, if not tell me I didn't hear it.

 

[ZNP]

I thought every fraud accusation has been debunked, if not tell me I didn't hear it.

BREAKING! MI AG Dana Nessel CONFIRMS 8,000 to 10,000 Suspected Fraudulent Registrations Delivered to Muskegon Clerk October 2020, as Noted in MI State Police Report She Buried from Public
By Jim Hoft Aug. 11, 2023 3:29 pm

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/breaking-mi-ag-dana-nessel-confirms-8000-10000/

NOW WE HAVE PROOF! TGP EXCLUSIVE: Massive 2020 Voter Fraud Uncovered in Michigan – Including Estimated “800,000 Ballot Applications Sent to Non-Qualified Voters” – Bags of Pre-Paid Gift Cards, Guns with Silencers, Burner Phones, and a Democrat-Funded Organization with Multiple Temporary Facilities in Several States

Lansing — Authorities in Michigan referred a 2020 investigation into thousands of voter registrations submitted by a person in Muskegon to the FBI, Attorney General Dana Nessel’s office confirmed this week.

Nessel’s press secretary, Danny Wimmer, said the total number of suspected fraudulent forms delivered to the Muskegon clerk by the individual was 8,000 to 10,000 ahead of the Nov. 3, 2020, presidential election.

However, Wimmer said, the “attempted fraud” was caught before Election Day because Michigan’s election system worked and the applicants were not added to the state’s voter rolls.

“The city clerk in Muskegon detected the fraudulent material provided and alerted the proper authorities,” Wimmer said in a statement. “A thorough investigation was conducted by multiple agencies within the state and no successful fraud was perpetrated upon the state’s election process or qualified voter file.”

The unresolved probe, which first became public in October 2020, has garnered new attention among conservative-leaning websites in recent days after the Gateway Pundit highlighted police reports about investigators’ efforts. The conservative website, which has advanced false and unproven theories in the past about voter fraud influencing Democrat Joe Biden’s victory, wrote in its headline for the story, “Now we have proof.”

 

[iamsoandso]

Yeah, i wear a mask too. Now that the new variant is around i will try to stay more at home but when i go indoors anywhere, i do wear a mask.

Yea I didn't take mine off because I have head nurses, Phlebotomist ect. who are family members. After all the arguments it seems like the medical community is taking the if you cant convince them route where they think to themselves there's not much you can do for those who disagree. I was out of a lot of my Asthma medications a while back and they were telling me they were giving it to those who had COVID but now I notice their shifting it back the other way instead.

 

[Eli1]

Yea I didn't take mine off because I have head nurses, Phlebotomist ect. who are family members. After all the arguments it seems like the medical community is taking the if you cant convince them route where they think to themselves there's not much you can do for those who disagree. I was out of a lot of my Asthma medications a while back and they were telling me they were giving it to those who had COVID but now I notice their shifting it back the other way instead.

I work in a hospital so i see and talk to a lot of people about Covid or health related news.
I think this should be a personal choice and free-will to be respected and i think that's what's happening.
People should be free to choose to do whatever they want, wear a mask don't wear a mask, get vaccinated or don't ... everyone has their own reasons and purposes why they want to protect themselves and why they want to stay healthy whether is for their families or whether is for themselves.

 

[iamsoandso]

BREAKING! MI AG Dana Nessel CONFIRMS 8,000 to 10,000 Suspected Fraudulent Registrations Delivered to Muskegon Clerk October 2020, as Noted in MI State Police Report She Buried from Public
By Jim Hoft Aug. 11, 2023 3:29 pm

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/breaking-mi-ag-dana-nessel-confirms-8000-10000/

NOW WE HAVE PROOF! TGP EXCLUSIVE: Massive 2020 Voter Fraud Uncovered in Michigan – Including Estimated “800,000 Ballot Applications Sent to Non-Qualified Voters” – Bags of Pre-Paid Gift Cards, Guns with Silencers, Burner Phones, and a Democrat-Funded Organization with Multiple Temporary Facilities in Several States

Lansing — Authorities in Michigan referred a 2020 investigation into thousands of voter registrations submitted by a person in Muskegon to the FBI, Attorney General Dana Nessel’s office confirmed this week.

Nessel’s press secretary, Danny Wimmer, said the total number of suspected fraudulent forms delivered to the Muskegon clerk by the individual was 8,000 to 10,000 ahead of the Nov. 3, 2020, presidential election.

However, Wimmer said, the “attempted fraud” was caught before Election Day because Michigan’s election system worked and the applicants were not added to the state’s voter rolls.

“The city clerk in Muskegon detected the fraudulent material provided and alerted the proper authorities,” Wimmer said in a statement. “A thorough investigation was conducted by multiple agencies within the state and no successful fraud was perpetrated upon the state’s election process or qualified voter file.”

The unresolved probe, which first became public in October 2020, has garnered new attention among conservative-leaning websites in recent days after the Gateway Pundit highlighted police reports about investigators’ efforts. The conservative website, which has advanced false and unproven theories in the past about voter fraud influencing Democrat Joe Biden’s victory, wrote in its headline for the story, “Now we have proof.”

Texas does it the other way though where we end up with more voters casting ballets than live in it's county. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/loving-county-texas-voter-fraud-claims-rcna35791

 

[iamsoandso]

I work in a hospital so i see and talk to a lot of people about Covid or health related news.
I think this should be a personal choice and free-will to be respected and i think that's what's happening.
People should be free to choose to do whatever they want, wear a mask don't wear a mask, get vaccinated or don't ... everyone has their own reasons and purposes why they want to protect themselves and why they want to stay healthy whether is for their families or whether is for themselves.

Yep my daughter in law is nurse in Austin that worked day and night for weeks on end during the peaks in the end she said it's everyone's choice you just cant help everyone so you have to move on to who you can or they will loose them too.

 

[iamsoandso]

Texas does it the other way though where we end up with more voters casting ballets than live in it's county. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/loving-county-texas-voter-fraud-claims-rcna35791

here's 7 more counties in Texas trying to figure out how they have more registered voters than people who reside there... https://www.foxnews.com/politics/eight-texas-counties-list-more-voters-than-residents

 

[seekingthemindofChrist]

Tell us more, do you carry their names to the Lord every day in prayer?

I pray for myself, certain members here, and a lot of people elsewhere quite often. Not necessarily every day, but close. You?

No need for you to answer. I have nothing else to say in regard to this thread except that it seems to me, and not just from reading this thread, that there are some people here who are more devoted to this nation and their "liberties" than they are to the Lord himself. In other words, I find some of their mindsets to be un-Christlike while resembling the mindset of a zealot instead. I have addressed that briefly elsewhere on this forum, so I do not feel the need for me to repeat myself.

Have a great day (sincerely).

 

[ZNP]

I pray for myself, certain members here, and a lot of people elsewhere quite often. Not necessarily every day, but close. You?

No need for you to answer. I have nothing else to say in regard to this thread except that it seems to me, and not just from reading this thread, that there are some people here who are more devoted to this nation and their "liberties" than they are to the Lord himself. In other words, I find some of their mindsets to be un-Christlike while resembling the mindset of a zealot instead. I have addressed that briefly elsewhere on this forum, so I do not feel the need for me to repeat myself.

Have a great day (sincerely).

I agree that if the concern is that they are too earthly focused to be of any heavenly good that would equate to praying for them.

 

[ZNP]

Jim Hoft: Update MI Election Fraud; Attorney General Confirms 1000's Of Fraudulent Registered Voters

https://rumble.com/v36oak6-jim-hoft...ttorney-general-confirms-1000s-of-fraudu.html

Comments on the Video, all quoted verbatim

Won’t this be a monument piece of evidence that the 2020 election was stolen?

Jim Hoft is a hero. It is people like him, and especially him, who will return us to fair elections in this country.

HOW MUCH MORE EVIDENCE DO USE NEED. YES THEIR WAS MASS VOTER FRAUD ACROSS MANY STATES, AND HAVE NO DOUBT THE DEMS HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS, BECAUSE THEIR IS NO WAY PEOPLE ARE VOTING FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF THEIR COMMUNITIES. NO WAY.

This is Treason against America, and Voter Fraud, as well. If found guilty... Ouch.

There were other posts that voiced the same sentiment, but not with sanctified language.

 

[PennEd]

Proof that Americans know Joe Biden, his handlers, and the Democrats are acting just like fascists:

I know several of you that hate Trump and republicans, will simply stick your fingers in your ears, and say “lalalalala” loudly. Shame on YOU!

Poll: Biden’s DOJ turning America into ‘Nazi Germany’


Respondents cite persecution of Trump by administration

A new poll shows that a majority of Iowa Republicans, based on the Biden administration’s multiple legal attacks on President Donald Trump, believe Biden is turning America into a version of “Nazi Germany.”

The polling was done by the Daily Mail.
It shows that majority thinks Biden’s “pursuit of former President Donald Trump by the FBI. and the Department of Justice smacks of Nazi rule in 1930s Germany.”
The report said 57% of respondents agreed with the statement: “The lawlessness of the persecutions of President Trump and his supporters is reminiscent of Nazi Germany in the 1930s.”

Trump has described the multiple cases against him as a witch hunt and a political scheme to try to foil his bid for the presidency in 2024. He calls it election interference.
The government has brought a carload of charges against him for having documents from his presidency in his home. The DOJ and FBI, however, have ignored the fact that both Mike Pence and Joe Biden had similar documents in their homes, and no prosecutions have begun.
Further, Trump’s been charged with business records violations that normally would have been misdemeanors. The prosecutors claim they now are felonies because they were used in furtherance of other, as yet unidentified, crimes.

And he’s been charged over his statements regarding the 2020 election and the riot at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, a case which, critics say, is left void because of the protections affirmed by the First Amendment.
The report said the poll was done by J.L. Partners right after the last indictment.
And, the report said, it “shows how the parallel resonates with Republicans in Iowa who will have a crucial say in selecting the party’s 2024 nomination. It is the first state to pick its preferred candidate next year, and the currents of public opinion will be watched closely until then.”
Only 28% disagreed with the comparison.

James Johnson, co-founder of J.L. Partners, said: “We have seen Republicans say Trump is being pursued unfairly, and people agree that it the series of indictments are a ‘witch hunt.’
“‘This poll shows that goes even further: Republicans also think the Department of Justice is acting in the same way that the Nazis did in the 1930s. ”

 

[Tall_Timbers]

The presidential election was stolen in 2020 along with some seats in the Senate. Lake's election was stolen in Arizona. The enemy did the stealing in plain sight, you'd have to be blind to have missed the synchronized efforts between several independent swing states.

Now they want to prosecute citizens who claim the election was stolen... why I (don't) wonder...

Hillary was sure she was the winner in 2016 because the fix was in, but they underestimated things that year. They didn't make that mistake again in 2020... In 2024 they'll plan to cheat again.

 

[ZNP]

I would point out that so far 100% of the respondents to the poll feel there will be election fraud in 2024. That should concern all Americans, not simply one party or the other. Our entire political system rests on Americans trusting the process.

 

[iamsoandso]

I would point out that so far 100% of the respondents to the poll feel there will be election fraud in 2024. That should concern all Americans, not simply one party or the other. Our entire political system rests on Americans trusting the process.

Yep it don't make any difference which party wins in 2024 the super PACS will put which ever politicians in office that have agreed to vote on issues the way they wanted. They were all stolen even in the past.

 

[Gojira]

It shows that majority thinks Biden’s “pursuit of former President Donald Trump by the FBI. and the Department of Justice smacks of Nazi rule in 1930s Germany.”

It looks that way because it is. I've been saying this for some time now. We wondered how Italy and Germany fell for their fascist movements. Well, we should understand that rather well by now, because the US, Canada and others are falling for it too.

 

[ResidentAlien]

Can man steal an election from God? After all, He's the one who ultimately decides. I think a lot of people have gotten themselves into a tizzy over nothing. It's worldly, not spiritual.

"Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God." Romans 13:1

 

[shittim]

Try reading the 1st chapter of Genesis, He gave mankind dominion.
He has obligated Himself to limit Himself to what we invite Him into.

 

[ZNP]

Can man steal an election from God? After all, He's the one who ultimately decides. I think a lot of people have gotten themselves into a tizzy over nothing. It's worldly, not spiritual.

"Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God." Romans 13:1

What is sin?

I recently posted this brothers exposition on the Hebrew word for sin. He said it was composed of four characters: Door, Coiled snake, Alpha, and Omega (the Hebrew equivalents of the first and last letters which is Jesus' signature). So what could this mean?

1. Over the target -- During the war bombers could fly hundreds of miles without issue, but once they were "over the target" then everything was fired at them. For example, suppose you are a lonely college student, it seems no one cares about you, but then you see a gospel tract on a table, pick it up to read and all of a sudden the guy at the next table is your friend advising you to not read it? Or you sit down to pray and immediately the phone rings. Or Roe v. Wade is overturned and you people acting demonic and unhinged. Jesus said "the gates of Hades shall not prevail against the builded church". The gates of Hell refer to this snake coiled up by the door. When Satan goes ballistic you know you are over the target.

2. Jesus is the antidote -- It could be that what they are saying is that the cure to the poison is the Alpha and Omega. Sin and shame can lead to confession and repentance which in turn leads to being saved. Jesus is the brazen serpent, we lift Him up and all those who are bitten by sin can look on Him and be healed and be saved.

3. Satan is trying to poison your relationship with Jesus -- It could be that the ultimate aim of sin is to poison you towards Jesus. Satan doesn't care if you are "good" or "evil" just so long as you are not in Christ. How many people have heard that they can't be a Christian because... Doesn't matter what the "because" is, that is the goal of sin. Many think Tucker Carlson was fired because he was publicly talking about Jesus. I was a teacher in NYC, you would definitely get fired if you publicly talked about Jesus while in any way being identified as a NYC teacher. How do you do that, you do it with lies about Jesus, the alpha and omega.

So consider why Jesus was crucified, He said "destroy this temple and in three days He would lift it up". The Jewish leaders took that to mean he was insulting the Jewish temple instead of understanding it as the temple of His body. He was crucified for that word He spoke, not for any violent act. Why not bring up the fact that He had driven the money changers out of the temple with a whip days earlier? Wouldn't that have supported their claim? No, because it exposed them as having turned a house of prayer into a way to scam people. They were using the priesthood as a license to steal. The serpents bite puts Jesus to death and also puts out this lie that Jesus is a violent extremist whose real mission is to destroy all that you hold dear.

But what is the result? Jesus is crucified, dead and buried and then on the third day He rises, just as He said. Later when you are experiencing death, perhaps a disease, or the death of a loved one, or financial ruin, or any kind of death, and all that you hold dear is destroyed. Then you can turn to Jesus and learn the truth that Jesus is the God of resurrection.

4. The ultimate hypocrisy -- Imagine Satan now says "big deal, He is the creator, of course He can destroy His creatures". Think of the hypocrisy in Satan leading a rebellion against Jesus, the Son of God, and then when it is clear he has lost and will spend eternity in the lake of fire he says this. So let's examine this lie. The glory is not in God the creator defeating Satan but in God's creation, man, who was made a little lower than the angels, defeating Satan. The real glory is Jesus as your captain, taking someone like you that was mocked and ridiculed by Satan as he abused and tormented you and raising you up so that this built up church with Jesus Christ as the head becomes a warrior that defeats Satan. But it is true that if God the creator just forces His will on you that is not so glorious, you have to pray, you have to ask Him, His will has to become your will.

 

[Moses_Young]

We have seen many claiming many things about this issue, what do you think?

Hey, there wasn't an option for "I think the 2020 election was stolen, but betting that the military will step in 2024 and kick some Commie ass".

 

[gb9]

that was said by many. ( never was going to happen, of course, but it was said)!