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Young lady, it would seem you have a choice to make. You can listen to what those of wordly mind are saying to you about this subject...mainly...just go with it...you'll find other "believers" that support your decision...and I'm here to tell you....YOU WILL!....they will rally around you as if you were queen of all the earth to support your walking into this deadly trap of the enemy...and you will lose your soul.

If you doubt me, read my testimony. Read what God and God alone can do in a life. He will redeem you from the pit, He will break the chains that hold you and He ALONE can cut the bars in two that hold you in this prison of doubt and fear.

Don't listen to these fleshly minded, empty, white-washed tombs.

SEEK HIM

I love you little sister, In Christ, and want whats best for you....God says that He will....and CAN deliver you from this. Romans 8:1 says there is no condemnation for those who are IN Christ Jesus.....who walk NOT after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

My position is a little different than most maybe...but I have lived on BOTH sides of the argument. And let me tell you first hand...THEY ARE WRONG. I will not argue. God says what He says. There is nothing left to argue.

If you have more ???'s, PM me.
 
I find this to be one of the most interesting threads i have come across while on CC. Natt, lil, and all who have taken a part in this thread, my hat goes off to you for your well spoken arguements.

Some things i would like to add...

Natt, i applaude your acceptence of gays, lesbians, and transexuals. Although i feel like most christians have the same mindset of hate the sin, and love the sinner. The bible clearly states that having sexual intercourse with the same gender is forbidden, i don't think that being attracted to the opposite gender is a sin. There is a lot of debate that King David had those feelings towards jonathan in the bible, due to passages that said that he loved jonathan more then he did women. I think as humans we are all faced with desires and lusts towards objects, its just how we are able to manage those desires that sets us a part.

I would caution you not to look at the old testament as a book of myths. Considering a lot of the old testament was put into writing not long before the new testament was, it wasn't like it was old text that didn't have any significance. If you are willing to view 2/3 of the bible as just myths, it really forces the question of why do you belive in the bible in the first place.

I do believe that you should encourage people to be who they are as individuals, but rubber stamping their leading a homosexual lifestyle crosses into some dangerous territory. Even as a NT only believer, if you read corinthians, there was a homosexual that was cast out of the congergation for knowingly living that way. Doesn't mean that they were cast out of society, but they weren't allowed to fellowship with believers. I feel if someone living that way, but is truly searching for God's guidance and help, he can deliver them from that lifestyle. Doesn't mean they will never feel those feelings, but they can recieve the strength not to act upon them.

Having worked in various fields of entertainment and media, i have enounter and befriended many homosexuals. I can truely say, on average, i find them to pbe much more pleasent people to be around then a lot of straight people i know. I think a lot of them have good hearts, they are very polite, and generaly upbeat people. I still have a lot of gay friends and we hang out consitently (not to mention one of my housemates is gay.)

Everyone has their strong points, and everyone has their weaknesses. Its not up to us to sacrifce them for who they are, but present a better, healthier, and more peaceful way to be.
 
Helloimandrewyo said:
I find this to be one of the most interesting threads i have come across while on CC. Natt, lil, and all who have taken a part in this thread, my hat goes off to you for your well spoken arguements.

Some things i would like to add...

Natt, i applaude your acceptence of gays, lesbians, and transexuals. Although i feel like most christians have the same mindset of hate the sin, and love the sinner. The bible clearly states that having sexual intercourse with the same gender is forbidden, i don't think that being attracted to the opposite gender is a sin. There is a lot of debate that King David had those feelings towards jonathan in the bible, due to passages that said that he loved jonathan more then he did women. I think as humans we are all faced with desires and lusts towards objects, its just how we are able to manage those desires that sets us a part.

I would caution you not to look at the old testament as a book of myths. Considering a lot of the old testament was put into writing not long before the new testament was, it wasn't like it was old text that didn't have any significance. If you are willing to view 2/3 of the bible as just myths, it really forces the question of why do you belive in the bible in the first place.

I do believe that you should encourage people to be who they are as individuals, but rubber stamping their leading a homosexual lifestyle crosses into some dangerous territory. Even as a NT only believer, if you read corinthians, there was a homosexual that was cast out of the congergation for knowingly living that way. Doesn't mean that they were cast out of society, but they weren't allowed to fellowship with believers. I feel if someone living that way, but is truly searching for God's guidance and help, he can deliver them from that lifestyle. Doesn't mean they will never feel those feelings, but they can recieve the strength not to act upon them.

Having worked in various fields of entertainment and media, i have enounter and befriended many homosexuals. I can truely say, on average, i find them to pbe much more pleasent people to be around then a lot of straight people i know. I think a lot of them have good hearts, they are very polite, and generaly upbeat people. I still have a lot of gay friends and we hang out consitently (not to mention one of my housemates is gay.)

Everyone has their strong points, and everyone has their weaknesses. Its not up to us to sacrifce them for who they are, but present a better, healthier, and more peaceful way to be.
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Okay, thanks. :)
 
Nattmaran said:
I think it is a good argument.

Christian that claims that they live by the bible never lives by the bible... There are a lot of laws and rules that they do not follow. But some things... like homosexuality... oh that is important :P
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I agree that a lot of christians claim they live by the bible, but don't follow it. As far as homosexuality, its only a big deal currently because of the social spotlight on it. 100 years ago it was womens rights, before that slavery, and even more current issues like civil wrights to different ethnic groups and abortion was a lot more a of an issue then homosexuality.

I do agree with lil_christian though. The bible says that their is only one way to God, and narrow is the path, and few will find it. As you said millions of christians see things the same way as you, BUT millions of christians don't understand or belive what they say they claim to belive either. Christians have a habit of following the butt of the sheep in front of them, even if it leads off of a cliff.
 
Helloimandrewyo said:
I agree that a lot of christians claim they live by the bible, but don't follow it. As far as homosexuality, its only a big deal currently because of the social spotlight on it. 100 years ago it was womens rights, before that slavery, and even more current issues like civil wrights to different ethnic groups and abortion was a lot more a of an issue then homosexuality.

I do agree with lil_christian though. The bible says that their is only one way to God, and narrow is the path, and few will find it. As you said millions of christians see things the same way as you, BUT millions of christians don't understand or belive what they say they claim to belive either. Christians have a habit of following the butt of the sheep in front of them, even if it leads off of a cliff.
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I can agree with this.
 
ahahahah, my phone is killing me. I need to stop posting on here via my phone.
 
Nattmaran said:
So that must mean that you as a christian are totally for stoning as a way of execution and slavery in general... I mean, both are allowed in the bible so when people are against slavery they are actually against God?
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Wrong again. It was allowed in the old covenant, with the Jews. The new covenant, with Jesus Christ paying the death penalty is something Christians believe in. Your talking about Jews, that rightly and justly followed God.

Sin = Death and you encouraged people to be ok with those homosexual acts.
 
simplymeganne said:
I've never seen a homosexual ACTUALLY become straight. It's impossible. It's not a choice.
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Christian psychologists have and this is actually used as evidence that it is choice. You can counsel people until your blue in the face to change their hair color, or skin color and it wont happen because thats genetic.. but you CAN counsel gay people to be straight, with God leading it. Gay people have become straight and have families right now and enjoy heterosexual sex. It's clearly choice or else they wouldn't be able to change.
 
Oh... Jesus doesn't look at someone's sexuality. You should always pray to renew your heart for HIM each day and let HIM drive your life no matter how hard the situations that you are facing. If you attract on both sexes, it's ok but NEVER EVER GO BEYOND ON IT. There are many ways that can help you overcome your battle. Whenever you pray, always ask for the Holy Spirit to live in you and soak yourself in the presence of the LORD. Please do not listen to the WHISPERS OF THE WORLD. Be obedient and submissive always. God bless your heart. :)
 
Gay people can change to be holier and deny their feelings and change how they think. The brain is remarkable at adaption. How difficult depends on the person. Some never change because of a combination of their lack of self-control and God's lack of intervention based on whether He chooses to or not for His own reasons.
 
Brandon777 said:
Some never change because of a combination of their lack of self-control and God's lack of intervention based on whether He chooses to or not for His own reasons.
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*shakes head*

You can't blame it on God. I'm tired of this wimpy Christianity that blames everything on God.

People need to own up to Jesus showed God's heart, and not once did Jesus say "Oh hey, let's make you sick."
 
Brandon777 said:
Romans chapter one tells us that gayness comes from God letting people corrupt their own minds.

"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because that which is known of God is revealed in them, for God revealed it to them. 20 For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse. 21 Because, knowing God, they didn’t glorify him as God, neither gave thanks, but became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless heart was darkened.
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 and traded the glory of the incorruptible God for the likeness of an image of corruptible man, and of birds, and four-footed animals, and creeping things. 24 Therefore God also gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to uncleanness, that their bodies should be dishonored among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
26 For this reason, God gave them up to vile passions. For their women changed the natural function into that which is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural function of the woman, burned in their lust toward one another, men doing what is inappropriate with men, and receiving in themselves the due penalty of their error. 28 Even as they refused to have God in their knowledge, God gave them up to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, malice; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil habits, secret slanderers, 30 backbiters, hateful to God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but also approve of those who practice them."

What degree do you hold to God's sovereignty? Does He not choose every event in all of time? He's the one Who set it in place and He knows everything in the future to the sharpest detail as revealed in prophesy.
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that doesn't mean he causes them to be gay. Just because something happens doesn't mean it's His will. He didn't cause the Holocaust, now, did it catch him by surprise? no. but He didn't cause it.
 
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