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God is love and loves all people but one day He has to end sin on earth.
So He is allowing the world 7 years to have their way and cause all people that do not love Him to follow the New Age Christ.
And then He will end sin on earth.
The 7 years will start when the New Age Christ negotiates peace in the Middle East resulting in a peace treaty.
For the first three and one half years salvation is still available to the world.
The tribulation does not happen until the last three and one half years when the antichrist claims to be God and goes against all people who oppose his system.
So the tribulation will not start next month unless we experience warp drive of time.
I do not believe the 7 years period will start next month.
It has to be more chaotic before that peace treaty happens.
2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
Also Science has to prepare the people more with the new age interpretation of the Bible to prepare the world so things fall in line faster.
Which Science says we do not cease to exist after death and the Bible is true and they have the correct interpretation.
New age, aliens will help mankind to have peace, advance, and evolve.
Science says they have proof of aliens, life on other planets, seeing alien space ships, and receiving laser messages.
New Age believes in evolution but humans did not evolve from apes.
Science says that the origins of people is in a different location and humans are not from the earth.
I believe in America that Science was set up to get people away from the belief in a personal God and discredit the Bible and then give them the new age interpretation saying they have new discoveries giving them a new perspective of things.
Which the new age is an American plan.
The new age also influenced the Vatican.
Alice Bailey the biggest prophet of the new age said there is an outer circle and inner circle of the occult and the inner circle is the true church.
She was married to a Freemason who agreed with her occult teachings and theosophy so he is part of the inner circle of Freemasonry.
Pope Leo XIV claims to be a Jesuit which they are connected with Freemasonry.
The Pope will be the head of the one world religious system and the false prophet.
When the Roman Empire embraced Christianity they did not get rid of their pagan and occult ways and it became their foundation for interpreting scriptures.
Because of that they can sway as the world changes.
Also the Roman Empire does not lose her dominion until Jesus puts down the world which will include all European nations including Russia and any nation taking over a nation like America.
So their religious institution will change to their new perception of reality.
The New Age Christ will push the agenda of the new age which he will think to change and laws to a system that exalts people and there is no personal God and have the support of the Pope and Vatican.
Concerning the resurrection it happens at the end of the 7 years.
Since God is giving the world 7 years to have their way to go against the truth the saints have to remain on earth.
Which if the saints are not on earth how did the world go against the truth.
Which Jesus said the kingdom of God is within you which the saints display the kingdom of God on earth.
Dan 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
Dan 8:24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
Dan 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
The saints will not be gathered unto Christ until there is a falling away first which is the condition of the world in response to the Gospel and the belief in a God which they stop the preaching of the Gospel.
And the man of sin claims to be God which happens in the middle of the 7 years period.
Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
The antichrist does not have power over the nations for the 7 years but during the last half although he will be a big influence during the first half.
For the first three and one half years he will be influenced by the devil.
For the last three and one half years he will be controlled by the devil.
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Dan 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
The antichrist makes war against the saints.
And they are given in to his hands for the last three and one half years.
And when he shall accomplish to scatter the power of the saints all things are finished.
Which then comes the end when the Son delivers up the kingdom to God and then he shall put down all authority, power, and rule.
1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron.
2Ti 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
2Ti 2:17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
2Ti 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
When the resurrection does not happen before the 7 years period or the middle of it then it will overthrow the faith of some and they will follow the world and the new age interpretation.
is that what's going on with Thomas?
"benefit of the doubt"...?
he was allowed - even commanded - to touch The High Priest, while Mary, who mistook Him for the gardener, was forbidden..
or are you subtly mocking me for following the Law and testing who claims to be a prophet?
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we can wait and discuss in six weeks
----------------------------------------is that what's going on with Thomas?
"benefit of the doubt"...?
he was allowed - even commanded - to touch The High Priest, while Mary, who mistook Him for the gardener, was forbidden..
or are you subtly mocking me for following the Law and testing who claims to be a prophet?
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we can wait and discuss in six weeks
Sorry, I'm not following you. Certainly not mocking you
The Resurrection/Rapture is not the end of the story on the 1335th day of the Tribulation/
1. Parable of the Wheat and Tares a repeat story of the Reaping of the Earth by the Lord in Rev 14:14.
2. Separation of the righteous and unrighteous takes place on this day/
3. 1185 days remains of the Tribulation fulfilling the Vial/Bowl Judgements
4. Restrainer is removed, the church
5. The Day of the Lord begins meaning 1000 years. This is why the prophet Joel called this the Great and terrible Day of the Lord and Apostle Peter called it the Great and Glorious Day of the Lord. This is why Paul mentioned the Day of the Lord in 2 Thes. 2.
6. 6th day ends ( 6000 ) years on the Passover before the Day of the Lord. This is why there was a delay of the Spirit on Pentecost in Acts 2 for 50 days and will be repeated in year 2029.
1. Parable of the Wheat and Tares a repeat story of the Reaping of the Earth by the Lord in Rev 14:14.
2. Separation of the righteous and unrighteous takes place on this day/
3. 1185 days remains of the Tribulation fulfilling the Vial/Bowl Judgements
4. Restrainer is removed, the church
5. The Day of the Lord begins meaning 1000 years. This is why the prophet Joel called this the Great and terrible Day of the Lord and Apostle Peter called it the Great and Glorious Day of the Lord. This is why Paul mentioned the Day of the Lord in 2 Thes. 2.
6. 6th day ends ( 6000 ) years on the Passover before the Day of the Lord. This is why there was a delay of the Spirit on Pentecost in Acts 2 for 50 days and will be repeated in year 2029.
I *suspect* that it will be sudden and a combination of things. Like Yellowstone will go, or some bad earthquakes and of course a war on US soil.
Sources are pretty much agreeing that we got about 10 Million or more illegal immigrants under Biden, and the amount that has been deported since Trump took office is either 150,000 or 332, 000 from what I was able to gather. So most of them are still here, the better part of 10 million people. How many were Soldiers in plain clothes?
A lot of them. I believe they are underground for the most part, training, stockpiling war materials and so forth and they be waiting on the go word.
It's going to get real deep, real fast for us Americans. Maybe they will even strike coastal cities with Nukes and then turn the foot soldiers loose? I'd stay locked and loaded and prayed up if I were you. We may just wake up one day with foreign troops in the streets.
There is not such thing as being "left behind". Non-pre-tribbers have the Holy Spirit also. If pre-trib doctrine was true, non-pre-tribbers would also be taken up.
But since the pre-trib doctrine is false, I worry about my pre-tribber brothers and sisters. That's why I encourage a post-trib plan B for when the antichrist is revealed and we're all still here in the great tribulation: to immediately endure in Christ and pay close and careful to instructions that God may have for you, as He did for Noah, and faithfully obey them.
I know some pre-tribbers will acclimate well to being stuck here and having to go through the great tribulation and stay close to the Lord so they don't panic, but all the others are going to have problems not being spiritually, mentally, emotionally and physically ready for it.
Why do you worry about your pretrib Brothers & Sisters? Is there a danger to watching early? What would that danger be? I think, in effect all it amounts to is some standing up and saying, I'll take first watch...
I mean, all it is is when do you start watching for Him? Some look post trib, I understand. (Why should we escape what all of our Brothers & Sisters have experienced their entire lives? and so forth).
And some think, He said, I'll come when you least expect it, be ready...so riddle me this,
When the rapture happens it is Jesus, the Bridegroom coming for His Bride the Church. If she is unblemished and no stained dress garment. It's all based on the traditions of the ancient Hebrew wedding rites. The Father picks the Bride and the betrothal is done then the Bridegroom leaves to go prepare a place for her and no one knows when He will return. (10 virgins Parable) Be ready or be left behind. 5 went 5 were left.
Do you think the Bridegroom when He comes would rather find His Bride watching out the window for Him she is so excited! Or Sleeping? Since she was sure it would be later so she went partying with her friends and was not watching for His return. Uh-oh, she got her garment stained last night before she came home. So isnt watching or ready. He arrives, and is he supposed to wake her up then? He sees her dirty dress on the side and...wonders, do I really want to wed this woman?
Scripture talks about He wants an unblemished Bride. Now if it's like you say and she is taken anyway, Praise The Lord! And that is good. But, it is up to Him. 5 were ready. 5 were not ready. Perhaps the Lord may decide that some may need further training on earth at that point and leave them behind to have to endure the great trib? I don't want to if I don't have to!
Pretrib and posttrib people usually argue a lot, but maybe some fail to look at the obvious? That pre trib is the safest place to be no matter who is correct in the doctrine. Because we already expect Him to be sneaky and do something like that! So we are already watching and do have oil. It could be today! It's real cloudy out.
Scripture says the timing will catch the whole world off guard.
Before Noah's flood no one believed him and made fun of him, until one day it started raining. It had never rained on earth before then! Only 8 people were saved from the flood. I wonder how many will really go in the rapture?
So I'm watching early. Who gets to go? The girl who was watching out the window or the girl he had to wake up with a torn dress?
We are children of light.
1 Thessalonians 5:4 But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. 5 You are all children of the light and children of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. 6 So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be awake and sober.
The Bible already says when the rapture will occur. It is AFTER the great tribulation. It is clearly and plainly said. No need to have other people explain it to you, no need for charts or extrabiblical writings to prove it.
2 Thessalonians 2:3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
1 Corinthians 15:51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.
It's really clear and simple because God doesn't want this hidden from His people.
The false pre-trib doctrine will cause many people to apostasize when the antichrist is revealed and they're still here. That why it's so dangerous.
No. Pre-trib is the weakest position. It's an expectation of being rescued from the chaos when it is actually the calling of the church to demonstrate God's majesty to the the spiritual forces of evil.
"To me, who am less than the least of all the saints, this grace was given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ, and to make all see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God who created all things through Jesus Christ; to the intent that now the manifold wisdom of God might be made known by the church to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places, according to the eternal purpose which He accomplished in Christ Jesus our Lord, in whom we have boldness and access with confidence through faith in Him."
Paul even connects this with personal tribulation:
"Therefore I ask that you do not lose heart at my tribulations for you, which is your glory."
Pretirbbers are getting ready for evacuation. The faithful, who know they will be in the midst of this great struggle, are washing their clothes and "making herself ready".
The Abomination that causes Desolation will be placed on the 5th day of Passover on the 1290th day of the Tribulation.
Beast from the Sea is the old Roman Empire which will appear in10 nations around the Med Sea
Beast from the Earth will be the Kingdom of the antichrist
Beast from the Sea is the old Roman Empire which will appear in10 nations around the Med Sea
Beast from the Earth will be the Kingdom of the antichrist
Events don't always happen on Jewish holy days. For example, when Israel became a nation again on May 14, 1948, it didn't happen on any holy days.
Yeah that makes sense how many of them could be just waiting for the command to go into action? I think that yellow stone could also be a big part of it but you never know it could just be an all out nuke against the u.s.a
-----------------------------------------------------Events don't always happen on Jewish holy days. For example, when Israel became a nation again on May 14, 1948, it didn't happen on any holy days.
You are 100% right about 1948. The coming of a nation by Israel here was not the plan of God but man
I think it was God's plan because it was prophesied that they would return to their homeland in scripture
Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Amos, and Isaiah, which speak of a future regathering from scattered nations, rebuilding of cities, and living permanently in the land given to their ancestors. For example, Jeremiah promises the restoration of Israel and Judah from captivity to their land, while Ezekiel describes God taking the children of Israel from among the nations and bringing them into their own land to live forever.
God did plan it, not man. He had it written in the Bible:
Amos 9:14-15
14 and I will bring my people Israel back from exile.
“They will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them.
They will plant vineyards and drink their wine;
they will make gardens and eat their fruit.
15 I will plant Israel in their own land,
never again to be uprooted
from the land I have given them,”
says the Lord your God.
Isaiah 66:8 Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things? Shall a land be born in one day? Shall a nation be brought forth in one moment? For as soon as Zion was in labor she brought forth her children.
Jeremiah 30:38 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when this city will be rebuilt for me from the Tower of Hananel to the Corner Gate. 39 The measuring line will stretch from there straight to the hill of Gareb and then turn to Goah. 40 The whole valley where dead bodies and ashes are thrown, and all the terraces out to the Kidron Valley on the east as far as the corner of the Horse Gate, will be holy to the Lord. The city will never again be uprooted or demolished.”
I realize that pointing this out upsets your theory that God does everything only on holy days, but your theory really isn't true.
Israel became a nation again on May 14, 1948, a date that corresponds to the 5th of Iyar on the Hebrew calendar and is celebrated as Yom Ha'atzmaut (Israel's Independence Day). The date also holds significance within Jewish tradition, as the 14th is connected to redemption, and it falls on the same day of the year as the birth of Abraham according to the Hebrew calendar.