Do You Hate Trump so Much You're Willing to let Biden/Harris Destroy America?

[Eli1]

Trump supporters have a tendency of referring to “Animal Farm” as a proof of them being the only ones who really understand how society works. Just too bad they don’t see that they are playing the part of the sheep.

Excuse me, but i learned Politics, Geography, Economics, Science, foreign Languages, Military strategy, Healthcare and Education on Clash of Clans, not on Animal Farm!
Please, this is very offensive to me and as a sign of protest i will attack rival clans in the game and take all their money!

 

[Susanna]

Excuse me, but i learned Politics, Geography, Economics, Science, foreign Languages, Military strategy, Healthcare and Education on Clash of Clans, not on Animal Farm!
Please, this is very offensive to me and as a sign of protest i will attack rival clans in the game and take all their money!

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Clausewitz must have missed that class.😂

 

[ZNP]

Clausewitz must have missed that class.😂

I used to play a mean game of Risk when I was younger, does that count?

 

[Susanna]

I used to play a mean game of Risk when I was younger, does that count?

Only if you’re Clausewitz.😁

 

[cv5]

BREAKING : Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is refusing to hand Trump shooting suspect Ryan Routh over to the Feds.

(1) JOSH DUNLAP on X: "🚨🚨 BREAKING : Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is refusing to hand Trump shooting suspect Ryan Routh over to the Feds. https://t.co/fy9mGTIKh8" / X

 

[cv5]

Whoops.

(1) @amuse on X: "COINCIDENCE? AG Merrick Garland assigned Markenzy Lapointe a Haitian Immigrant to prosecute the would-be Trump ass@ssin. I don't know about you but I don't think there are coincidences when it comes to @realDonaldTrump. Lapointe just happens to ALSO be one of the prosecutors https://t.co/8Ea38PwseC" / X

 

[daisyseesthesun]

Trump did not say the words you and the video and many other sources have claimed he did... Unless you have some other source. That you have interpreted what he did say to mean that is inescapable, but that doesn't change the fact that those are not the words he said. Plus you have a different definition for repentance than how I understand it and how others describe it because I've never heard repentance being asking for forgiveness. Repentance literally means to change one's mind. Look up metanoia.

Magenta,

You may be right Trump could be a modern Christian, but I don't think that the case I think the only thing that matters to Trump is money. You know as well as I that trumps done allot wrong. You are willing to excuse it while I am not.


Billy Graham on Repentance (youtube.com)

 

[Magenta]

Magenta,

You may be right Trump could be a modern Christian, but I don't think that the case I think the only thing that matters to Trump is money. You know as well as I that trumps done allot wrong. You are willing to excuse it while I am not.

Billy Graham on Repentance (youtube.com)

You are willing to make assumptions which are unwarranted, since I said nothing about excusing Trump, and what is this about me being right about him being a Christian? I said no such thing - once again you misrepresent. So if you want to talk about unChristian behaviour, begin with yourself repeatedly claiming the man said something he did not, and speaking to me as if I have said things I have not, while ignoring that which I did say. It is dishonest all round.

 

[daisyseesthesun]

You are willing to make assumptions which are unwarranted, since I said nothing about excusing Trump, and what is this about me being right about him being a Christian? I said no such thing - once again you misrepresent. So if you want to talk about unChristian behaviour, begin with yourself repeatedly claiming the man said something he did not, and speaking to me as if I have said things I have not, while ignoring that which I did say. It is dishonest all round.

Margenta,

Okay i admit it i thought you were a trump supporter---- so you were willing to excuse and support him anyways.

 

[Mem]

You are willing to make assumptions which are unwarranted, since I said nothing about excusing Trump, and what is this about me being right about him being a Christian? I said no such thing - once again you misrepresent. So if you want to talk about unChristian behaviour, begin with yourself repeatedly claiming the man said something he did not, and speaking to me as if I have said things I have not, while ignoring that which I did say. It is dishonest all round.

I was looking for a segway into the topic of the unforgiveable sin or, more accurately, the sin unto death, which came into the discussion of a thread somewhere, maybe here, idk, but your closing statement provides me the opportunity to touch on it after revisiting a quote from Kierkegaard, which I believe summarizes it well. He states, "No person is saved except by grace; but there is one sin that makes grace impossible, and that is dishonesty; and there is one thing that God must forever and unconditionally require, and that is honesty."

This reminder is given in the context of this week's study into holy introspection which is the custom during these weeks that lead up to Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur with a commentary that advises to follow a similar philosophy that you had expressed in regard to that which should be the subject of our introspection. That is, confession means "saying the same thing" as God says. However, many miss that this isn't only just acknowledging or sins, transgressions, and iniquities, but also affirming our new identity as the beloved children of God. So, it seems to me that asking for something that has already been given is... idk, would you say that it strikes you somehow dishonest?

And that being sorry is often equated with asking for forgiveness or disqualified from actual repentance unless a plea for forgiveness is voiced, brings up another question. Am I not sorrowful of my sin unless I ask for forgiveness? And if not, then, what AM I?

 

[Magenta]

I was looking for a segway into the topic of the unforgiveable sin or, more accurately, the sin unto death, which came into the discussion of a thread somewhere, maybe here, idk, but your closing statement provides me the opportunity to touch on it after revisiting a quote from Kierkegaard, which I believe summarizes it well. He states, "No person is saved except by grace; but there is one sin that makes grace impossible, and that is dishonesty; and there is one thing that God must forever and unconditionally require, and that is honesty."

This reminder is given in the context of this week's study into holy introspection which is the custom during these weeks that lead up to Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur with a commentary that advises to follow a similar philosophy that you had expressed in regard to that which should be the subject of our introspection. That is, confession means "saying the same thing" as God says. However, many miss that this isn't only just acknowledging or sins, transgressions, and iniquities, but also affirming our new identity as the beloved children of God. So, it seems to me that asking for something that has already been given is... idk, would you say that it strikes you somehow dishonest?

And that being sorry is often equated with asking for forgiveness or disqualified from actual repentance unless a plea for forgiveness is voiced, brings up another question. Am I not sorrowful of my sin unless I ask for forgiveness? And if not, then, what AM I?

Penitent? I appreciate your musings on this but alas, me bed is calling! Sweet dreams, dear one...

But I will say... I hear this a lot: you must ask God for forgiveness. Really? Where is this stated?

GQ has this to say:

we do not always need to be asking God for forgiveness. When we place our faith in Jesus Christ for salvation, all of our sins are forgiven. That includes past, present, and future, big or small. Believers do not have to keep asking for forgiveness or repenting in order to have their sins forgiven. Jesus died to pay the penalty for all of our sins, and when they are forgiven, they are all forgiven (Colossians 1:14; Acts 10:43).

What we are to do is confess our sins: “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness” (1 John 1:9). What this verse tells us to do is “confess” our sins to God. The word “confess” means “to agree with.” When we confess our sins to God, we are agreeing with God that we were wrong, that we have sinned. God forgives us, through confession, on an ongoing basis because of the fact that He is “faithful and just.” How is God “faithful and just”? He is faithful by forgiving sins, which He has promised to do for all those who receive Christ as Savior. He is just by applying Christ’s payment for our sins, recognizing that the sins have indeed been atoned for.

 

[ZNP]

Margenta,

Okay i admit it i thought you were a trump supporter---- so you were willing to excuse and support him anyways.

Is it that hard to simply read what people write rather than having to assume all kinds of things that they didn't write?

 

[ZNP]

I was looking for a segway into the topic of the unforgiveable sin or, more accurately, the sin unto death, which came into the discussion of a thread somewhere, maybe here, idk, but your closing statement provides me the opportunity to touch on it after revisiting a quote from Kierkegaard, which I believe summarizes it well. He states, "No person is saved except by grace; but there is one sin that makes grace impossible, and that is dishonesty; and there is one thing that God must forever and unconditionally require, and that is honesty."

This reminder is given in the context of this week's study into holy introspection which is the custom during these weeks that lead up to Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur with a commentary that advises to follow a similar philosophy that you had expressed in regard to that which should be the subject of our introspection. That is, confession means "saying the same thing" as God says. However, many miss that this isn't only just acknowledging or sins, transgressions, and iniquities, but also affirming our new identity as the beloved children of God. So, it seems to me that asking for something that has already been given is... idk, would you say that it strikes you somehow dishonest?

And that being sorry is often equated with asking for forgiveness or disqualified from actual repentance unless a plea for forgiveness is voiced, brings up another question. Am I not sorrowful of my sin unless I ask for forgiveness? And if not, then, what AM I?

I think the concept of unforgivable sin has been very misunderstood because no one seems to take the context into account.

1. The pharisees in Jerusalem made a ruling on Jesus after 3 years of His ministry. They said that He was casting out demons by the prince of the demons, Beelzebub. That was an official ruling and it was designed to tell all the Jews to stay away from Him.

2. When they tell Jesus this He also tells them that they have committed the unforgivable sin, referring to this ruling.

3. They in turn ask for a sign that God was going to judge them because that is how God operates and it is stated clearly in Leviticus and Deuteronomy. Jesus told them the only sign they would be given is the sign of Jonah. And if you don't understand the sign of Jonah you don't understand the unforgivable sin.

Jonah preached for forty days walking to and fro through the city telling them that after 40 days they would be destroyed. However, they humbled themselves and God relented because "they don't know the right hand form the left". However, later at the time of Obadiah the judgment was carried out.

Six months before the Lord's crucifixion when He told the Pharisees this His ministry began for Judaea and this proclamation was made very close to the 9th of Av if not on the day precisely. The evidence is very strong that Jesus was crucified on 31 AD. That would mean this judgment was given on the 9th of Av 30 AD and exactly 40 years later to the day the temple was destroyed. During those 40 years Jesus and His disciples walked to and fro throughout Jerusalem telling them to repent and many did. But for those who did not and held to this ruling that Jesus was casting out demons by the prince of the demons they were not forgiven and they were cast out of the Israel just as God said in Leviticus and Deuteronomy.

Jesus was telling them that rejecting Him as the Messiah was unforgivable, they will be cast out of Israel.

From 31 AD, after the crucifixion and after Pentecost when the disciples began to preach the records from the rabbis shows that the High priest would continually die during the Feast of Atonement, that the sacrifice was never accepted (the cord never turned white) and they were unable to close the door to the temple. This is like Paul's word about how they give 40 stripes less one. When you sentence someone to receive 40 lashes you give them 39 to make sure you don't give them 41 by miscounting.

So then the unforgivable sin is saying that Jesus is one with Beelzebub, you cannot be forgiven as long as you hold onto that sin. All those who repented of that sin in the next forty years were forgiven.

In the Gospel of John Jesus heals the Blind man and the Pharisees ask if they also are blind. Jesus says that because they say they see their sin remains. Nineveh was blind, they didn't pretend otherwise, and they humbled themselves so they were forgiven. Jerusalem claimed they saw, they didn't humble themselves and so they were judged 40 years later to the day. There are two sides to the sign of Jonah.

But this applies to everyone. At the end of the age the nations will also proclaim that they all worship one God and it doesn't matter what religion you are as long as you are not evangelical Christians saying that Jesus is the only way to the Father and no one can be saved but by Him. At that point they too will be committing the unforgivable sin.

 

[Nehemiah6]

I think the concept of unforgivable sin has been very misunderstood because no one seems to take the context into account.

Why is this being discussed in this thread? The topic applies to Christians (as noted in the 1st epistle of John), not evildoers like Biden and Harris (who face another and more terrible fate).

They both continue to spew hatred for Trump, and call him names which are all smears and all false. They both continue to work on the systematic destruction of America and Americans. But there is another thread in the Bible Discussion Forum talking about Jezebel and the "Jezebel spirit" (which is integral to Kamala Harris). We all know about the end of Jezebel on earth, and it is more than likely that this modern Jezebel will be judged similarly.