Do You Hate Trump so Much You're Willing to let Biden/Harris Destroy America?

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Nehemiah6

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If trump loses. we have 2 socialists who will continue to tear our country apart.
"Socialists"? Call them what they actually are "Lying Communists". Walz has been in cahoots with the Chinese Communists for many years. Harris is a Marxist, like her dad. Biden implemented every Communist policy, using the power of the State to shut down dissent and persecute Trump. Also create economic and social chaos.
 

JayBird

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If trump loses. we have 2 socialists who will continue to tear our country apart.
Harris and Walz are socialists? What socialist policies are they proposing?

Are you saying she is anti LGBTQ+ if you can not show where she changed her view. you have answered your own question.

Look at her state. and look at her VP nominee. All who support this same view.
I'll take that as a tacit admission that you can't support your claim.

Sorry but, I look at reality. i stop listening to the fake news media years ago.
So where's your info showing that the border isn't closed and crossings are still at high levels?

Um,. He not only lifted the restrictions. He took them all away

You need to stop listening to the propoganda my friend.
Are you actually denying that President Biden issued an Executive Order that shut down the border?

Why? did he cause them? Was he responsible for Antifa and BLM?
Nope, and by the same token neither was anyone else not directly involved.

No thank you
What's wrong with Pence? He's actually lived a good Christian life and has solid Christian positions. And unlike Trump, he doesn't force people like you to make excuses for adultery, fornication, greed, love of money, sexual assault, fraud, etc.
 

Cameron143

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Doesn't matter. They had the receipts and hand-written notes from Trump's accountants outlining the payment scheme. BTW, do you have a source for this?


And he was found guilty. Given the evidence presented at trial, that makes sense.


Already answered.
You don't know what you are talking about. Just give me the statute that he broke and the jury found him guilty of.

The first question, it's in the court transcripts.

There is much more to say on this case, but if you can't tell me what he was found guilty of, then it makes no sense to move on. And this is actually my point. Since the jury was given 3 charges to choose from, no one can know.
 

ZNP

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Whether Christian or not, this is so ridiculously easy to figure out, a child could do it.

We have an apples to apples comparison, since both have been in the White House for four years.
Was the country, and you personally, better off in every possible way, the past four years, that Harris has been in office, or the previous 4 years that Trump was in office.?

What is it about the past 4 years that wants you to have 4 more or worse than the same?

What was bad, in the country, or for you and your family, during Trump’s Presidency?

It really is that simple.
Well then, we should be explaining this to children. Is there a children's Christian chat forum?
 

JayBird

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lol. maybe we want someone we know cares for our country and will fight for it.. and not someone who is trying to run this country to the ground by their left wing socialist. LGBTQ+ ideas.
Trump left office with the worst jobs record since Hoover. He inflated the national debt by trillions because he gave huge tax breaks to billionaires and mega corporations. He sided with Vladimir Putin over the US government. He told Putin he could "do whatever the hell he wants" to our NATO allies. He stuffed his staff with Goldman-Sachs millionaires. He completely bungled the pandemic.

We can do much, much better.
 

JayBird

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Just give me the statute that he broke and the jury found him guilty of.
34 counts of of falsification of business and financial records in the first degree, in furtherance of an additional crime, namely fraudulent concealment of campaign expenditures.

NY Penal Law 175.10

https://www.new-york-lawyers.org/first-degree-falsifying-business-records-ny-penal-law-175-10.html

There is much more to say on this case, but if you can't tell me what he was found guilty of, then it makes no sense to move on. And this is actually my point. Since the jury was given 3 charges to choose from, no one can know.
Turns out you're wrong.
 

JayBird

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"Socialists"? Call them what they actually are "Lying Communists". Walz has been in cahoots with the Chinese Communists for many years. Harris is a Marxist, like her dad. Biden implemented every Communist policy, using the power of the State to shut down dissent and persecute Trump. Also create economic and social chaos.
Every time I ask for specifics regarding how they are communists, no one can point to a single thing.

IOW, it's just empty rhetoric.
 

Everlasting-Grace

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Trump left office with the worst jobs record since Hoover. He inflated the national debt by trillions because he gave huge tax breaks to billionaires and mega corporations. He sided with Vladimir Putin over the US government. He told Putin he could "do whatever the hell he wants" to our NATO allies. He stuffed his staff with Goldman-Sachs millionaires. He completely bungled the pandemic.

We can do much, much better.
Yet we are much much worse today than we were under trump

again, stop listening to the fake news

Listen to reality
 

Eli1

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Personally i am picking Trump because he is also fit.
When i look at Biden and when i look at Trump, the choice is clear that i am going to pick Trump and not an elderly patient.

biden.jpg trump.jpeg
 

JayBird

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PennEd

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Cameron143

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34 counts of of falsification of business and financial records in the first degree, in furtherance of an additional crime, namely fraudulent concealment of campaign expenditures.

NY Penal Law 175.10

https://www.new-york-lawyers.org/first-degree-falsifying-business-records-ny-penal-law-175-10.html


Turns out you're wrong.
That's only 1 of the choices given. Was he found guilty of breaking federal election law, violation of tax law, or falsification of business records?
The jury was told they could pick any of the 3. And they could find him guilty for any of the 3 reasons and not have to agree with other jurors on which he was guilty of.
So I'm not wrong. I just read the jury instructions before answering. 55 pages. You can find it on line. So the fact remains...no one can say with certainty what Trump was found guilty of.
 

JayBird

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That's only 1 of the choices given.
And it's what he was convicted of (34 counts = 34 falsified transactions).

Was he found guilty of breaking federal election law, violation of tax law, or falsification of business records?
Already answered. He was found guilty of 34 counts of of falsification of business and financial records in the first degree, in furtherance of an additional crime.

So the fact remains...no one can say with certainty what Trump was found guilty of.
I just did, as you requested. You can ignore it if you like, but that doesn't change reality.

Here, read the verdict sheet yourself: https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/Trump-Verdict-Sheet.pdf
 

Cameron143

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And it's what he was convicted of (34 counts = 34 falsified transactions).


Already answered. He was found guilty of 34 counts of of falsification of business and financial records in the first degree, in furtherance of an additional crime.


I just did, as you requested. You can ignore it if you like, but that doesn't change reality.

Here, read the verdict sheet yourself: https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/Trump-Verdict-Sheet.pdf
Some people refuse to accept truth. The good news is that it will be overturned, and Trump will remain Teflon. They can't kill him, bankrupt him, or jail him.