Do you believe in this?

[CharliRenee]

Let's assume that the life span of each generation during the Millennium is 100 years (Isa 65:20). Which means 10 generations within 1,000 years. While the first generation may be fully saved, the last generation may not. Therefore they will be deceived by Satan.

As to the "elect" (the saved ones), they cannot be deceived.

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. (Mt 24:24)

Your post had me studying Isaiah 65:20. I think that scripture is saying that if a person dies at the age of 100, they died in their youth.

I could be wrong, thank you for this study.

 

[SpoonJuly]

I see in these very last of days that Bible prophecy is happening before our very eyes -
and the U.S.A. in particular seems very much afflicted by every evolving doctrines of faith and salvation by a constant
re-inventing of Christianity to appease many (and rake in the dollars).

The scriptures clearly warn us all that we can lose our salvation by a number of means. Even Jesus himself refers to this.

And another that lacks faith and lacks comprehension of Scripture.
This person also believes that if you do not speak in tongues you ain't saved.

 

[theanointedsinner]

My sheep hears my voice

The Bible is God's voice

we better get into the word and "rightly divide the word of truth"

and I like the idea of Magenta anointed Bible,

 

[theanointedsinner]

Don't twist my words now brother

Demi have gone through the worst that earthly life can bring, if any other people go through that

reality, illusion? "wake us from the nightmare" if other people go through that, people would consider ending their own lives by the age of 5, if they have to live her life

so, um, yeah ... yep

 

[Quantrill]

Seems all you want to do is argue, Your not even listening to what I say

Paul said they were to be anathamed, that they were lost. I will go with paul ok?

I teach salvation by grace through faith alone period. The eternal. Life we are trying to discuss (well at least I am) is the result of being saved.

You always say Paul said this or that but when I ask where you never give it. But go with whatever you like.

Actually we were discussing your adding the doctrine or position of eternal security to the Gospel in order to be saved. Now you want to change it.

Quantrill

 

[Quantrill]

Nope. I have added the RESULTS of faith in christ

Get it together man.

No, even those who don't adhere to the doctrine of eternal security, are eternally secure as they have placed faith in Christ. What you have said is that they must adhere to the doctrine to be saved.

I got it....man.

Quantrill

 

[rlm68]

Can you show me where in Jude there are people who were saved once and lost it?

As for 1000 years, not everyone in that day will be saved, Satan can not decieve a child of God, Satan decieved those who did not like to be under the rule of Christ. thats why they rebell

So, at the end of the Tribulation, Armageddon, and then the 1,000 year reign with Christ (which it took being saved to make it this far), there are going to be sinners? Christ is daily on the scene in New Jerusalem and He will allow sinners to be present ([/b]AFTER KILLING EVERY SINNER/NOT SAVED IN ARMAGEDDON)? So you are saying it will be o.k. to sin during the 1,000 year reign after needing to be washed in Yeshua's BLOOD to even get to enter into New Jerusalem?


I will produce Jude evidence next. I was more shocked by your comments to get my response!!

 

[rlm68]

Let's assume that the life span of each generation during the Millennium is 100 years (Isa 65:20). Which means 10 generations within 1,000 years. While the first generation may be fully saved, the last generation may not. Therefore they will be deceived by Satan.

As to the "elect" (the saved ones), they cannot be deceived.

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. (Mt 24:24)

You are well aware that everyone we read about within the scriptures on the side of God will be there? The city has 12 gates for the 12 Disciples, and from there the list great explaining there are this many that represent this. In other words, we will be with the likes of David, Peter, John, obviously Christ. The dead in Christ have already been risen while those alive have already met them. There will be NO DEATH!! It will be a city full of SAVED HUMAN BEINGS. This means, if the city begins 100% full of saved people, sin is able to creep in when the Adversary is let loose.

Now, we very well could be populating the new earth. And even if we live forever, it does not mean those just new born, won't rebel (But STILL, God is on the scene daily)...He would have to allow something for Satan to be able to deceive others.

We could always state what Revelations claims: EVEN THE VERY ELECT WILL BE DECEIVED!! This is referenced within the 7 Asia Minor Churches ending with Laodecia.

 

[rlm68]

Scripture claiming the elect can be deceived:

Matthew 24:24
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.


But look how many will be deceived after the 1,000 years:

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

 

[rlm68]

Jude 1:
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Demi777]

Demi have gone through the worst that earthly life can bring, if any other people go through that

reality, illusion? "wake us from the nightmare" if other people go through that, people would consider ending their own lives by the age of 5, if they have to live her life

so, um, yeah ... yep

Thanks brother.
I will unsubscribe to the thread as people (even some ive known for a while and used to look up.to) just came to hurt and steer hate sgainst me, rather than discussing and praying for me.
I am shook by the hate and envy in the body. Just like corinth

 

[theanointedsinner]

Thanks brother.
I will unsubscribe to the thread as people (even some ive known for a while and used to look up.to) just came to hurt and steer hate sgainst me, rather than discussing and praying for me.
I am shook by the hate and envy in the body. Just like corinth

adding insult to injury

Satan is trying to deter sharing of testimonies
Satan is shouting "where is my witch", na uh uh (waving an index finger sideways), Demi is a "saint" in God's eyes

 

[Jennie-Mae]

Thanks brother.
I will unsubscribe to the thread as people (even some ive known for a while and used to look up.to) just came to hurt and steer hate sgainst me, rather than discussing and praying for me.
I am shook by the hate and envy in the body. Just like corinth

Why are all these men displaying so much anger toward you?

Several adult men being angry with a young lady? Doesn’t look good, I have to say.

Why be it so difficult having a discussion on here without yelling and insults?

 

[theanointedsinner]

Why are all these men displaying so much anger toward you?

Several adult men being angry with a young lady? Doesn’t look good, I have to say.

Why be it so difficult having a discussion on here without yelling and insults?

the flesh, Satan is at work

mind as well ask Satan why? um, don't bother

Read some parts in Revelation 21-22 and enjoy the victory

 

[Nehemiah6]

Your post had me studying Isaiah 65:20. I think that scripture is saying that if a person dies at the age of 100, they died in their youth.

Let's take a look at that verse and break it down:
There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days:
This would suggest that no one would die prematurely.

...for the child shall die an hundred years old...
This would suggest that the life-span of people would be 100 years.

but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.
This would suggest that a long life for the wicked would really be a curse.

One cannot be dogmatic but that is what seems to be suggested.

 

[Demi777]

Why are all these men displaying so much anger toward you?

Several adult men being angry with a young lady? Doesn’t look good, I have to say.

Why be it so difficult having a discussion on here without yelling and insults?

It started as aa OSAS discussion, more interpreted into my words against it and i stopped reading when tourist came into to steer up agaibst me with this *oh remind me about ur opinion Jesus is God*
Just to steer hatred. This is exacly what is wrong and was going on in corinth. Hate, envy, condemnation and destruction over correction,guiding and love.
God guided me to stay offin yesterday to think and take some time.
We are in October, witchcraft month where division is casted and christians are targeted and people blindly let em get used. Im done with cc. Its just a placr of Pharisees and condemnation

 

[theanointedsinner]

if the concept of OSAS can file harassment charges, BDF will receive the charge as thick as a phone book!

since OSAS is considered as a "dead horse topic"

 

[trofimus]

Scripture claiming the elect can be deceived:
Matthew 24:24
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Lol, do you even read what you post?

 

[tanakh]

So by what criteria do we use to judge whether we are saved or not? If I was saved yesterday am I still saved today. If not do I go to God and get re saved. If I spend the rest of my life living by some standard I set myself and fail it on the day I die have I been wasting
my life? I remember someone explaining it by using the example of two swimmers trying to swim across a wide river. One only gets a few hundred yards and the other manages a mile but neither get to the other side. The point is that nobody deserves salvation. You cant earn it however righteous you consider yourself to be.

 

[trofimus]

It started as aa OSAS discussion, more interpreted into my words against it and i stopped reading when tourist came into to steer up agaibst me with this *oh remind me about ur opinion Jesus is God*
Just to steer hatred. This is exacly what is wrong and was going on in corinth. Hate, envy, condemnation and destruction over correction,guiding and love.
God guided me to stay offin yesterday to think and take some time.
We are in October, witchcraft month where division is casted and christians are targeted and people blindly let em get used. Im done with cc. Its just a placr of Pharisees and condemnation

I am not tourist, if you meant my post.

To say you that you should concentrate on the basic faith is not hatred, envy, condemnation, destruction, phariseism and its not "of Corinth".

Its a good advice I would say to a JW, to a mormon, to a RCC etc.

And do not live according to a "witchcraft calendar", because you will be influenced by what you believe.