Do you believe everything the Bible says?

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Do you believe everything the Bible says?

  • Yes

    Votes: 31 93.9%

  • No

    Votes: 2 6.1%
  • Total voters
    33
JohnDB

JohnDB

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ForestGreenCook said:
I assume you are referring to me. Do you think that you can read my mind, in determining who I rely upon to glean the truths in the scriptures?

I have never read Calvin's writings, or any others writings, nor do I listen to TV preachers. The only preachers that I listen to are the ones that preach in the church that I attend, as a deceon, and I have been known to call to their attention of misinterpreted scriptures.

My only source of the study of the scriptures are the scriptures proving themselves in harmony, with the revelation of the Holy Spirit.
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Look,
I don't mean to be so harsh on you but so many people are being duped by clever mechanisms with their "studies" that they don't even know what is going on anymore.

The old "a bat and ball together cost $1.10 and the bat cost $1 more than the ball." So most people think the ball cost a dime. But that isn't true. The ball cost a nickel.
The same logical fallacies have been performed with Theological studies for decades....and it's getting ridiculous with everyone repeating these same falsehoods.
At face flat value they look correct....but when some true analytical skills are applied they all of a sudden become unraveled.

The truth is out there. But it takes work anymore to get at it. It infuriated me when I discovered so many "truths" that I had been taught which weren't congruent with Who God is that I had blindly believed.

The axiom of "If a product is free to use then YOU are the product being sold" is still very true. Because there ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
 
Snacks

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And when the ark of the covenant of the Lord came into the camp, all is real shout. It’s so loudly that the Earth shook. 1 Samuel 4:5

Do I believe the people jumped up and down to the point that items around them shook? Yes. Do I believe the entire earth shook? No.
 
studentoftheword

studentoftheword

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Thread Title -----
Do you believe everything the Bible says?

God says His Word is Truth -------Jesus is The Word and Jesus is God -------so anyone who says the Word is not truth is calling Jesus a liar in reality -------in my view -----


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Saul-to-Paul

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Runningman said:
This might seem like a strange question to ask here, but after having discussed the Bible for quite a while with folks, I have reached a point where I’m puzzled.

I know we disagree about many things, but some things are pretty clear in the Bible and there’s still a disagreement. I’m beginning to wonder if some Christians just don’t believe everything the Bible says. So I’m creating a poll where people can vote anonymously.

My answer is yes I believe everything the Bible says.
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People believe what they think the Bible is telling them.
Runningman said:
This might seem like a strange question to ask here, but after having discussed the Bible for quite a while with folks, I have reached a point where I’m puzzled.

I know we disagree about many things, but some things are pretty clear in the Bible and there’s still a disagreement. I’m beginning to wonder if some Christians just don’t believe everything the Bible says. So I’m creating a poll where people can vote anonymously.

My answer is yes I believe everything the Bible says.
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You believe what you think the Bible is saying.
 
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Runningman

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Saul-to-Paul said:
People believe what they think the Bible is telling them.

You believe what you think the Bible is saying.
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I think there’s gotta be at least someone who has the Bible all figured out. But do you think that the Bible can be understood completely or is it highly unlikely or impossible?
 
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Ted01

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Runningman said:
I think there’s gotta be at least someone who has the Bible all figured out. But do you think that the Bible can be understood completely or is it highly unlikely or impossible?
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That would be something to meet a person who has it all figured out... and walked it all out as well.

I think that we're blessed that God doesn't ask that of us... and only desires us to know the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
 
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John146

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posthuman

posthuman

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Runningman said:
My answer is yes I believe everything the Bible says.
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Oh?

John 6:39
This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day.
 
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notonmywatch

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Runningman said:
I think there’s gotta be at least someone who has the Bible all figured out. But do you think that the Bible can be understood completely or is it highly unlikely or impossible?
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The Holy Spirit "has the Bible all figured out" because he's the one who inspired its words. If people truly humble themselves before God, while truly relying on the Holy Spirit's guidance, then the Bible isn't that difficult of a book to understand. The real problem behind all of the differing opinions is pride.
 
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John146

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notonmywatch said:
The Holy Spirit "has the Bible all figured out" because he's the one who inspired its words. If people truly humble themselves before God, while truly relying on the Holy Spirit's guidance, then the Bible isn't that difficult of a book to understand. The real problem behind all of the differing opinions is pride.
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One needs the right words for the Holy Spirit to teach the right truth.
 
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notonmywatch

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John146 said:
One needs the right words for the Holy Spirit to teach the right truth.
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This is true, but the KJV still isn't a perfect translation, so why not just give it a rest?

I've been reading the KJV for many, many years, but I'm not foolish enough to ignore its mistakes in translation when I see them.

Anyway, I'm not getting into an argument about this.
 
posthuman

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Ted01 said:
I've always wondered about the usage of the term "God forbid" that's found in the KJV, in Romans. To my knowledge, it doesn't exist in any of the manuscripts... there is no form of God, Lord, YHWH, etc., etc.
IOW, the word for "God", used in the KJV is wholly made up... can anyone shed light on this?
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The Greek is literally more or less "not ((be))!"
It's a negative prefix without an object.

In the vernacular of the time kjv was translated, 'God forbid' makes sense tho not at all a literal translation.

In today's language you might say, "no way!" or "as if!" - any slang for "nope!"
 
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notonmywatch

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I will say this though as sort of a "hit and run". In other words, I'm not going to argue this point with anybody.

It's highly probable that many here and elsewhere who don't even favor the KJV (as I do) have been heavily influenced (lest I should say "duped") by some of its errors in translation.

Here's a quick example:

John 14

2In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

"Mansions" is a horrific mistranslation. If anybody reading this is expecting a "mansion" in "heaven" (which is never even mentioned in this verse) some day, then you're going to be sorely disappointed.
 
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